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According to people with access to this info, the Skins are currently $7 million under the cap, which is ample room to add a depth player should injuries arise, and also to account for any jump in Cooley's cap number should that get done soon (more on that in a paragraph or two).

Also, Skins have $2.1 million left under the rookie cap, which, given the low base salaries these guys make, is plenty of space for LaRon Landry. Those talks are ongoing.

As for Cooley, been sniffing around on that for a few days now and it seems highly unlikely that gets done before the start of camp. Still hashing a lot of stuff out. The Skins really want to make this one happen and I know Chris is looking to be compensated as one of the top tight ends in the game. They've been working at this for a while now, and these things can get pretty complicated.

Nothing imminent for now and I imagine they will keep talking through training camp and the regular season if necessary.

Some people have emailed me about Aaron Brooks working out here a while back, according to some reports. Haven't been able to confirm that but I do know there is no real interest in QBs now and things are pretty set. Not saying that it didn't happen, but if it did nothing came of it and no one has been talking about him out here.

JC is the starter and Brunell is far and away the favorite to be No. 2 and some people close to Todd Collins said the veteran is under no illusions that he will definitely be here this season. If Brooks did workout here, several people at The Park said it must have happened while they were on vacation, 'cause it's the first they heard of it (the only two players I know did indeed workout here over the past month or so are WR Keenan McCardell and LB Dhani Jones, who signed with the Saints recently).

Spent some time with JC today. The passing camp he was hoping to have with the WRs in Miami or Atlanta or Arizona or wherever .. well, it never materialized. Guys were spread out and Santana Moss was still nursing some injuries and couldn't run normally, so it never came together. A bunch of guys have been working out at The Park the past few weeks, though, and today Campbell was throwing to Moss and Antwaan Randle El. He said their timing was pretty impressive and they'll continue doing the sessions right up til camp starts Friday.

Also, Santana echoed JC's remarks about their informal throwing sessions and said he feels great, and the hamstring and groin stuff is not bothering him at all.

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[quote=Mattyk72;332687]According to people with access to this info, the Skins are currently $7 million under the cap, which is ample room to add a depth player should injuries arise, and also to account for any jump in Cooley's cap number should that get done soon (more on that in a paragraph or two).

Also, Skins have $2.1 million left under the rookie cap, which, given the low base salaries these guys make, is plenty of space for LaRon Landry. Those talks are ongoing.

As for Cooley, been sniffing around on that for a few days now and it seems highly unlikely that gets done before the start of camp. Still hashing a lot of stuff out. The Skins really want to make this one happen and I know Chris is looking to be compensated as one of the top tight ends in the game. They've been working at this for a while now, and these things can get pretty complicated.

Nothing imminent for now and I imagine they will keep talking through training camp and the regular season if necessary.

Some people have emailed me about Aaron Brooks working out here a while back, according to some reports. Haven't been able to confirm that but I do know there is no real interest in QBs now and things are pretty set. Not saying that it didn't happen, but if it did nothing came of it and no one has been talking about him out here.

JC is the starter and Brunell is far and away the favorite to be No. 2 and some people close to Todd Collins said the veteran is under no illusions that he will definitely be here this season. If Brooks did workout here, several people at The Park said it must have happened while they were on vacation, 'cause it's the first they heard of it (the only two players I know did indeed workout here over the past month or so are WR Keenan McCardell and LB Dhani Jones, who signed with the Saints recently).

Spent some time with JC today. The passing camp he was hoping to have with the WRs in Miami or Atlanta or Arizona or wherever .. well, it never materialized. Guys were spread out and Santana Moss was still nursing some injuries and couldn't run normally, so it never came together. A bunch of guys have been working out at The Park the past few weeks, though, [B]and today Campbell was throwing to Moss and Antwaan Randle El. He said their timing was pretty impressive and they'll continue doing the sessions right up til camp starts Friday.[/B]

Also, Santana echoed JC's remarks about their informal throwing sessions and said he feels great, and the hamstring and groin stuff is not bothering him at all.[/quote]Am I the only one who is bothered by Lloyd's absense from this paragraph? It seems that alot of good things are being said around Redskins Park about JC, ARE, and SM but I dont read any good things about BL. Maybe there have been some good things said about BL and I just missed them.

Also, I think its extremely important that Landry is in camp from day one. You always hear how rookies say the speed of practice is way faster than what they are used to. IMO he needs to be there to see what its like from the start so he can be prepared as much as possible when the coaches call his number.

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Perhaps just an oversight on his part regarding Lloyd?

But at the same time I wouldn't at all be surprised if he hasn't worked out with JC and the other WRs.

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Supposedly Lloyd has been a model citizen this off season and been at the park a ton. Somehow I doubt he spent his entire summer working out and pushing hard just to slack off at the end and not be there when they were working on tiing and such with the starting QB. Probably just an oversight. At worst he just took some time off after working with JC earlier in the off season.

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Because character-wise, Lloyd is a total piece of sh*t. I'm telling you, the guy is going to give us major problems this year. He's going to pout when he doesn't get his way.

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[quote=Schneed10;332704]Because character-wise, Lloyd is a total piece of sh*t. I'm telling you, the guy is going to give us major problems this year. He's going to pout when he doesn't get his way.[/quote]
I dont think that will happen. Gibbs won't let it happen like it did last year. If it does I think Gibbs will play the 'conduct detrimental to the team' card and suspend his ass.

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[quote=gibbsisgod;332705]I dont think that will happen. Gibbs won't let it happen like it did last year. If it does I think Gibbs will play the 'conduct detrimental to the team' card and suspend his ass.[/quote]

That to me would be the very definition of "a problem."

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[quote=Schneed10;332706]That to me would be the very definition of "a problem."[/quote]
I just don't think Gibbs will let one player affect the rest of the team. Lloyd had some issues last season but if anyone can keep a player like him in check, it is Gibbs.


And why is it always the recievers that are head cases? Keyshawn, T.O., Lloyd. I'm sure somebody could name some more.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;332687][url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/]Redskins Insider[/url]

According to people with access to this info, the Skins are currently $7 million under the cap, which is ample room to add a depth player should injuries arise, and also to account for any jump in Cooley's cap number should that get done soon (more on that in a paragraph or two).

Also, Skins have $2.1 million left under the rookie cap, which, given the low base salaries these guys make, is plenty of space for LaRon Landry. Those talks are ongoing......[/QUOTE]

The rookie cap is under the main cap. So if they have $7million under the cap and that includes the $2.1 for the rookies. So that would actually make them only $4.9 million under the cap because they have to spend the $2.1 on the rookies. The rookie cap is not separate.

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Yes but if you have signed all your rookies then left over cap space can be used for other things... It Rookie Pool is just a mechanism to prevent the salary demands of teams draft picks to rocket out of control

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Does anyone know the likelihood that Laundry signs and is in camp on day one? Also, does anyone know what the plan is for preseason games as far as playing the starters? I'd hate to see what happen last year to portis happen again to a key player.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;332704]Because character-wise, Lloyd is a total piece of sh*t. I'm telling you, the guy is going to give us major problems this year. He's going to pout when he doesn't get his way.[/QUOTE]

Everyone always says that Lloyd is a complainer, has character issues, detractor in the locker room - but i've never seen anything to support it. He's very well spoken in interviews and actually sounds like he's got a GREAT attitude. I know he occasionally gets emotional on the sidelines - but is that a bad thing? I've never heard him bitch about not getting enough balls, etc...

Where does all this stem from? Is it just because we're disappointed in his performance? He has been a major let-down, no question, but I haven't witnessed anything to question his character.

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[QUOTE=mmil12;332711]Does anyone know the likelihood that Laundry signs and is in camp on day one? Also, does anyone know what the plan is for preseason games as far as playing the starters? I'd hate to see what happen last year to portis happen again to a key player.[/QUOTE]

We don't know who "Laundry" is mmil! LaRon Landry is maybe who you are referring to, however, just for clarity sake!


j/k dude!

On the play of starters, I've heard nothing. Usually in PS game 1,the starters play a quarter or a half, then the back-ups come in. In games 2 & 3, that time might decrease, maybe only a series or two. Then in the 4th game, the starters might play 3/4 or at least a series of the 4th quarter.

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[quote=Ade Jimoh Fan Club;332713]Everyone always says that Lloyd is a complainer, has character issues, detractor in the locker room - but i've never seen anything to support it. He's very well spoken in interviews and actually sounds like he's got a GREAT attitude. I know he occasionally gets emotional on the sidelines - but is that a bad thing? I've never heard him bitch about not getting enough balls, etc...

Where does all this stem from? Is it just because we're disappointed in his performance? He has been a major let-down, no question, but I haven't witnessed anything to question his character.[/quote]

It's been pretty well documented, and at the end of last season in the Wash. Post there was an extensive article about him.

It's no big secret that he has some issues regarding his attitude.

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[quote=gibbsisgod;332707]I just don't think Gibbs will let one player affect the rest of the team. Lloyd had some issues last season but if anyone can keep a player like him in check, it is Gibbs.


And why is it always the recievers that are head cases? Keyshawn, T.O., Lloyd. I'm sure somebody could name some more.[/quote]

I imagine it will affect the rest of the team in that it will leave JC with only Moss and ARE to throw to. And ARE isn't great anyway.

But we will see. Hopefully Lloyd keeps his nose clean.

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[quote=Schneed10;332704]Because character-wise, Lloyd is a total piece of sh*t. I'm telling you, the guy is going to give us major problems this year. He's going to pout when he doesn't get his way.[/quote]

I don't have very high hopes for him either. I really hope he can straighten his act out but something tells me he's not going to change and he'll be gone next year. I definitely think if we didn't need to get rid of AA it would have been Lloyd instead.

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[QUOTE=backrow;332714]We don't know who "Laundry" is mmil! LaRon Landry is maybe who you are referring to, however, just for clarity sake!


j/k dude!

On the play of starters, I've heard nothing. Usually in PS game 1,the starters play a quarter or a half, then the back-ups come in. In games 2 & 3, that time might decrease, maybe only a series or two. Then in the 4th game, the starters might play 3/4 or at least a series of the 4th quarter.[/QUOTE]

I just hope that we leave the key guys out. I really thought we were in a good situation at the beginning of last year...then the injury bug hit! Landry needs to sign from day one so he can win the job...nothing against the othe safeties but I really want him and ST to have a chance to build chemistry.

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I'm not a big BL fan, but I have no problem with him crying about this, or that as long as he isn't dragging the team down. If you look at other teams having a crybaby WR, we are sitting pretty if he's unhappy. I think this year has too much promise for him to really make a big stink about anything. Shut up, play ball, and support your teamates and everyone will be happy. Oh yeah....Catch the ball when it does get thrown to you.

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I think Lloyd's wife/girlfriend/fiancee/baby mama recently gave birth to their son. So maybe he's just spending some time with them before camp commences.

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Here's an article that addressed Lloyd's attitude problems from last year:

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/06/AR2006120601542.html]Gibbs Says Lloyd Will Play Sunday - washingtonpost.com[/url]

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That is him last year when he is mad. THINK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO LLOYD WHEN HE GETS HIS ROID RAGE!! I can see it now. Instead of throwing a helmet, he will be picking up gibbs and throwing him on the field.

No seriously though, boy got big in one offseason.

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[quote=Schneed10;332704]Because character-wise, Lloyd is a total piece of sh*t. I'm telling you, the guy is going to give us major problems this year. He's going to pout when he doesn't get his way.[/quote]

I'm not sure why you hate him so much.. I'm looking forward to him making a few grabs for us. He has talent.

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He has talent but we didn't see it last year. Say what you will about the QB situation holding him back, but the bottom line is the guy had an awful year no matter how someone spins it.

Needless to say he really needs to step it up this year and not pout his way back to the bench again.

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He has talent, for sure. Perhaps my memory is letting me down.....but I can't think of anybody in a similar situation that has turned it around and become a "valuable" contributor. I say he delivers more of the same, and departs after this season. Hopefully, I will be wrong

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;332733]Here's an article that addressed Lloyd's attitude problems from last year:

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/06/AR2006120601542.html]Gibbs Says Lloyd Will Play Sunday - washingtonpost.com[/url][/QUOTE]

Ok - I guess I understand a little better. He didn't sound like a complete crybaby - but there's definitely some selfish-ness issues.

This might be one of those things where winning helps - you'll notice that there aren't a lot of crybabys on the patriots, for instance. Winning cures all.

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Brandon Lloyd will self destruct at some point. Anyone who takes themselves so seriously that they decide to create two personas is a complete tool IMO.

Look at his website. [URL="http://www.blloyd.com/"]Brandon Lloyd Official Website - Washington Redskins[/URL]

There's very little there about the Redskins and he completely glosses over last season. His bio starts with 2005. He believes the hype that he's created in his own mind and I personally think he acts like an immature child.

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[quote=Ade Jimoh Fan Club;332747]Ok - I guess I understand a little better. He didn't sound like a complete crybaby - but there's definitely some selfish-ness issues.

This might be one of those things where winning helps - you'll notice that there aren't a lot of crybabys on the patriots, for instance. Winning cures all.[/quote]

What concerns me is he doesn't seem to be remorseful for anything, and he really doesn't see any of his behavior as being an issue.

Look at some of these quotes, quite disturbing if you ask me:

"Anything can happen," Lloyd said about the possibility of another blowup. "I don't want it to happen, and I'll do my best for it not to happen."

"It's one of those things that happen that you learn from and move on," Lloyd said. "I've had this personality since I was about 5 years old. And if I ever thought it was a problem, I would have changed it. I'm okay with this kind of attention. So if I thought it was a problem, I would have changed it 20 years ago."

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;332754]What concerns me is he doesn't seem to be remorseful for anything, and he really doesn't see any of his behavior as being an issue.

Look at some of these quotes, quite disturbing if you ask me:

"Anything can happen," Lloyd said about the possibility of another blowup. "I don't want it to happen, and I'll do my best for it not to happen."

"It's one of those things that happen that you learn from and move on," Lloyd said. "I've had this personality since I was about 5 years old. And if I ever thought it was a problem, I would have changed it. I'm okay with this kind of attention. So if I thought it was a problem, I would have changed it 20 years ago."[/QUOTE]


You've got a great point Matty - it'd be different if he just said "Hey I got caught up in the moment and it won't happen again." He's more like "Hey I am who I am so suck it." That's not going to get him too far in life.

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Why oh why oh why did the FO give up draft picks and sign BL to big $ when he had not done anything but pout in SF? This move was almost as worse as the Duckett move.

But Snyder made some interesting comments in his one session w/ the media this offseason. He said that "we are proud of BL." So I guess he has really been working out real hard in the offseason. He looks bigger so we shall see.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;332760]Why oh why oh why did the FO give up draft picks and sign BL to big $ when he had not done anything but pout in SF? This move was almost as worse as the Duckett move.
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I move to ban all discussion of the Duckett trade. That was so f*ckin assinine to trade away a 3rd rounder for a player we never intended to use at all. Re-f*cking-diculous. I still can hardly believe it actually happened.

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Lloyd just needs to track the ball better in the air. This should've have been established before coming into the league.

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[quote=Lady Brave;332748]Brandon Lloyd will self destruct at some point. Anyone who takes themselves so seriously that they decide to create two personas is a complete tool IMO.

Look at his website. [URL="http://www.blloyd.com/"]Brandon Lloyd Official Website - Washington Redskins[/URL]

There's very little there about the Redskins and he completely glosses over last season. His bio starts with 2005. He believes the hype that he's created in his own mind and I personally think he acts like an immature child.[/quote]
I'm not a big fan of these me sites but allot of players have them. If you look at his news its all Redskins and his photo's the few he has are skins and some personal stuff. Most of the other stuff like bio's hardly ever get up dated. I'm not sure we can look at his site and read too much into it. My self I think he is playing for his career this year and from what I/we have heard is that he has worked hard so far. I'm giving him a by last year as the whole team sucked and even Moss had a down year. If he causes trouble this year or cannot produce I'll chalk it up as another FO mistake.