Brooks Works Out For The Skins?!
 

This is a Yahoo! article that states a terribly-wonderful random note from Redskins Camp.

What is this all about?

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As for Dillon and Brooks, Dillon figures to have the most impact if he returns. Agent Steve Feldman said Dillon afford to retire and live comfortably in his home on the beach in Malibu, Calif. Perhaps, but Dillon is the best veteran running back available and teams generally need backs by the end of training camp.

Brooks has been on the mend since suffering a stomach injury last season with the Oakland Raiders. He had a workout with the Washington Redskins a month ago, according to his agent, but has gotten little interest. That's odd for a quarterback of his physical talent. If healthy, Brooks would be one of the top backups in the league.


[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AiFTdi2eFjSLcU9kZLBo.01DubYF?slug=jc-missingfromcamp072007&prov=yhoo&type=lgns]Missing in action - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

PLease, DISCUSS OBJECTIVELY!!!

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Well, to tell u truth, I don't know who's better Brunell or Brooks......

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I'd cut Brunell and Collins for Brooks. Brooks is younger and more atheletic. He gives uss experience and quite a bit more talent from the back-up QB slot. Then give the third string to Palmer. Lets face it...Brunell is completed finished and we are paying Collins way to much. We can probably get Brooks pretty cheaply. What do you guys think?

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[quote=mmil12;331546]I'd cut Brunell and Collins for Brooks. Brooks is younger and more atheletic. He gives uss experience and quite a bit more talent from the back-up QB slot. Then give the third string to Palmer. Lets face it...Brunell is completed finished and we are paying Collins way to much. We can probably get Brooks pretty cheaply. What do you guys think?[/quote]


I think you are insane if you think that Aaron Brooks is better than Mark Brunell.

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[QUOTE=mmil12;331546]I'd cut Brunell and Collins for Brooks. Brooks is younger and more atheletic. He gives uss experience and quite a bit more talent from the back-up QB slot. Then give the third string to Palmer. Lets face it...Brunell is completed finished and we are paying Collins way to much. We can probably get Brooks pretty cheaply. What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]

Let us not forget that Mark Brunell in his Career has made it to AFC Championship game, lets not forget that MB has been a Pro Bowl quarterback. Thats what I call a veteran back-up, someone who use to be great but with age became average. But as he became average he became wise. MB is a good QB if he's healthy. The problem is his body is too old to endure an entire season. Last year his best games were early in the season then he got banged up and it got ugly. 2yrs ago his deep ball looked great early (Cowboys MNF) by week 10 on it got really ugly. Not to mention he took us to the playoffs, got a victory and Santana Moss had a breakout season that year so Mark was doing something right. If he is forced to come in for 3 games he'll be nice and fresh and get the job done. Long story short that sounds like the type of guy we all should want JC to learn from. Good guy on and off the field, kind of reminds me of Gibbs. Maybe I'm ignorant can someone educate me on a wikipedia update of Aaron Brooks??

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No thanks as to either guy. Brooks might be physically gifted, but he has never shown the ability to effectively manage an offense on a consistent basis. Dillon is old and we're stacked at RB.

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Wow Brooks would be awesome on the Redskins! It would only take him eleven years to learn Saunders playbook. An erratic underachiever who doesn't take care of the football. Now that sounds like a Joe Gibbs QB.

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Brooks is HORRIBLE. Id take my chances with almost any backup in the league before Aaron Brooks, he BLOWS.

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I'd take Reggie Brooks over Aaron Brooks as a backup QB.

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lets just pray that number 8 never makes it on the field again.His best days are long gone. He was terrible last year. Sorry my mistake he did complete 22 in a row with 16 of them behind the line of scrimmage. Love that arm. Really put alot of fear into the defense.

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[QUOTE=mmil12;331546]I'd cut Brunell and Collins for Brooks. Brooks is younger and more atheletic. [/QUOTE]

No way.
Here are Brooks stats:
[url=http://www.profootball-reference.com/players/BrooAa00.htm]Aaron Brooks statistics - pro-football-reference.com[/url]
Keep in mind, he's never been a winner.
In his last 3 seasons, he has averaged a meezly comp. % of only around 56.5%.
Over that same span (37 games) he has:
37 td's
41 ints.
His numbers were inflated in NO because they had nothing else, he was exposed as a Raider. I'd take Brunell over Brooks any day of the week.

ps- there's a reason Brooks was never an all pro.

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[QUOTE=724Skinsfan;331565]I'd take Reggie Brooks over Aaron Brooks as a backup QB.[/QUOTE]

I've always wondered what really happened to him. He had amazing talent! He had a great rookie season for us (over 1k in yards and 4.8 YPC) then he just seemed to disappear.
He was a flat out stud at Notre Dame...he and Jerome Bettis made one of the best backfields in NCAA history.

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First of all...Mark sucks!!!! we need to cut and run..as far as possible. Brooks..is young and could sit the pine behind Jason very easily. Forget what Mark did..THEN...what has he done Lately? The best thing he could do is retire...save us some money.

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[QUOTE=krisj55;331584]First of all...Mark sucks!!!! we need to cut and run..as far as possible. Brooks..is young and could sit the pine behind Jason very easily. Forget what Mark did..THEN...what has he done Lately? The best thing he could do is retire...save us some money.[/QUOTE]

While i don't disagree that Mark is nothing special in terms of a starter, he is still better than Brooks.
Brooks has absolutely sucked the past two years, and he is nothing now. No talent is left.

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I agree...that brooks is no gem......but MARK "no heart" Brunell????

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[quote=krisj55;331587]I agree...that brooks is no gem......but MARK "no heart" Brunell????[/quote]
I hate to say this..as I have been a skin fan all my life.....I would go find quincy Carter....before i would stand behind Mark as a qb on our team!

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jason campbell
mark brunell
casey bramlet

jordan palmer practice squad

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Brooks had a workout, that is it. IF we get rid of MB for Brooks that is moronic. MB knows our offense already, did get us to the playoffs in 2005, etc. Brooks hasn't done squat!!!!!!

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I would call that a complete slap in the face if they cut Brunell and bring in Brooks.

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[QUOTE=krisj55;331587]I agree...that brooks is no gem......but MARK "no heart" Brunell????[/QUOTE]


Well, like I had said before, I'd rather have Culpepper as our #2, and let Collins be the guy that "knows the system". If we cut Brunell what would we save, or lose?

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;331670]I would call that a complete slap in the face if they cut Brunell and bring in Brooks.[/QUOTE]

I concur.

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I think JC can learn from MB. However, MB makes way too much money to ride the pine. If you want keep Collins around another year, he can teach JC the system and play a game or two if necessary, cut MB for cap reasons and sign Brooks as a back up to the vet minimum.

Oh, and I loved Reggie Brooks, I just wish he panned out more the one season! He was great to watch that year.

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[quote=jsarno;331694]Well, like I had said before, I'd rather have Culpepper as our #2, and let Collins be the guy that "knows the system". If we cut Brunell what would we save, or lose?[/quote]
well i agree on culpepper....but for all our sakes lets pray that jason has a magical year

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[quote=krisj55;331587]I agree...that brooks is no gem......but MARK "no heart" Brunell????[/quote]

You can say a lot of negative things about MB (diminished arm strength, lack of confidence in his dwindling abilities, and many more) but look at the injuries he's played through in just the last two years. His heart should not be question.

He is too expensive to play back-up but cheaper than Duante is going to want (Culpepper still thinks he has a shot at starting again someday soon and throwing for 4K). And Brooks? Please! Give me a has-been over a never will be any day.

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[quote=rypper11;331826]You can say a lot of negative things about MB (diminished arm strength, lack of confidence in his dwindling abilities, and many more) but look at the injuries he's played through in just the last two years. His heart should not be question.

He is too expensive to play back-up but cheaper than Duante is going to want (Culpepper still thinks he has a shot at starting again someday soon and throwing for 4K). And Brooks? Please! Give me a has-been over a never will be any day.[/quote]

WOW! have you not seen the last three seasons with brunell? we changed coaches, play books and went away from Gibbs style offence...to do what...to somehow help his game style...to pasify him. well guess what. none of that worked did it? All I am saying is that it is time to stop....living in the world of excuses for him. he sucks! everyone that follows football knows it.
Brooks...he sucks too. but hell he can prob. move out of a pocket now and then. Culpeppercoming to our team would be a major improvment. What if jason is not the answer? then what? collins? BRUNELL? please.

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[quote=mmil12;331546]I'd cut Brunell and Collins for Brooks. Brooks is younger and more atheletic. He gives uss experience and quite a bit more talent from the back-up QB slot. Then give the third string to Palmer. Lets face it...Brunell is completed finished and we are paying Collins way to much. We can probably get Brooks pretty cheaply. What do you guys think?[/quote]He's also one of the worst QBs ever to play.

But if you really needed a real life demonstration of just how far Brunell is from the really really bad QBs, this would be it.

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[QUOTE=krisj55;331818]well i agree on culpepper....but for all our sakes lets pray that jason has a magical year[/QUOTE]

Well, we are putting all our eggs in Jason Campbell's basket, so yes, we need that from him.

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Brooks is a used up, never been. Mark will be fine in the roll he is in right now, a backup, that might have to come in and play a few downs or a game or two.

There is no way we will pick up brooks, it's a waste of time to even bring him in for a look.

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Mark "no heart" Brunell, thats just an ignorant statement. He gave all his body could give and then some. He gave us some kick ass Dallas wins in which he didn't give up when we were down by 2 T.D.'s in one of them. Man educate yourself

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[QUOTE]I agree...that brooks is no gem......but MARK "no heart" Brunell????[/QUOTE]

Well I certainly wouldn't accuse Brunell of having "no heart". The guy had us at the doorstep of the NFC Championship game two years ago. Everyone said he was washed up after 04 and he only came back to have maybe the best season of his career. I know Portis and Moss stepped up huge at the end of 05, but Brunel was the Captain of that ship. He may not have the physical skills to be starter anymore, but he will always "fight his guts out" as Big Joe would say.

As an earlier poster mentioned, Gibbs would never have a QB who turns the ball over as much as Brooks. Honestly, I'm surprised to hear that they gave him a look.

Woo Hoo!!!! Ten posts baby. Thread starter priveleges booooyyyyeeeee!

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jason campbell
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I agree with your QB depth chart projection....however, it seems most here are not thrilled with the idea of Mark Brunell as a long term backup.

I agree, based on age.
Brunell does have an unbeatable attitude.
He is the ultimate team player...he gave us some amazing games against Dallas....he actually gave us some hope that we haven't had for a very long time...before Brunell got in synch with Moss....he was basically average.
I really hope Brunell stays around for a long time...but as a 3rd stringer or coach next year....beyond that he may hurt us.
I love his attitude. We need other Redskins to pick that up.
The only thing we need is a potential starter at number 2.....right now, we dont have that. I really dont know of any QB available that has that potential. (excluding Culpepper, who is walking on eggshells).

For you Brunell haters...please tell me who we pick up at this point (except Culpepper) to replace him at number 2?

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It's a little late to be looking to cut your #2 QB and bring in a guy that would need to learn the system on the go during camp.

Brooks was probably here for a workout just as a precaution in case MB's shoulder wasn't coming along.

Nothing to get too excited about.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;331885]It's a little late to be looking to cut your #2 QB and bring in a guy that would need to learn the system on the go during camp.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Thank you for bringing some sense back into the thread.

Experience in the system goes a long way. While I wouldn't be thrilled to have MB as our starter (in the event of a JC injury), I would be a little upset if we cut him. I know he has a big salary, but I think he's probably one of the top 10 most important players on the team.

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i cant believe we are talking about Aaron freaking Brooks. the guy has done nothing but lose games, and commit turnovers, his entire NFL career. and some of you guys want him here? what the hell is going on around here? i am not big on Brunell, ill take him every day of the week, and twice on Sunday, over Brooks

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[quote=krisj55;331584]First of all...Mark sucks!!!! we need to cut and run..as far as possible. Brooks..is young and could sit the pine behind Jason very easily. Forget what Mark did..THEN...what has he done Lately? The best thing he could do is retire...save us some money.[/quote]


playoffs 2005, he is old and struggles at times but there is no way in hell i am taking aaron brooks over him. when did that dead beat ever and take a team to the playoffs. the guy is a waerthless leader at least the players have mark brunells back...ask randy moss how good ol aaron brooks is. well, he has led his teams to the number 2 pick and number 1 pick overall. i think we dont want to go down that road pal.

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[quote=holcknowsbest;331940]playoffs 2005, he is old and struggles at times but there is no way in hell i am taking aaron brooks over him. when did that dead beat ever and take a team to the playoffs. the guy is a waerthless leader at least the players have mark brunells back...ask randy moss how good ol aaron brooks is. well, he has led his teams to the number 2 pick and number 1 pick overall. i think we dont want to go down that road pal.[/quote]

Brooks started 4 years in a row for NO. 16 games. During that time he threw 98td's and 51 ints. That is pretty damn good. Almost a 2 to 1 TD Int rate. The last year in NO nobody played well. I mean, how could anyone play well under those circumstances?? Also who could play well last year in Oak? Could you imagine MB playing in Oak last year? Please. It would have been ugly.

If we would have brought this guy in here in Jan. and coached him up, he would be a better QB than Brunell at this point. No question about it. He is younger and has better skills. He has all the tools to be a very good QB. But at this point it's way too late to bring in anybody.

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[quote=mmil12;331546]I'd cut Brunell and Collins for Brooks. Brooks is younger and more atheletic. He gives uss experience and quite a bit more talent from the back-up QB slot. Then give the third string to Palmer. Lets face it...Brunell is completed finished and we are paying Collins way to much. We can probably get Brooks pretty cheaply. What do you guys think?[/quote]

Have you ever seen the guy play? He's a turnover machine. In the seasons he played a full year, he had close to 20 interceptions and fumbled a dozen times.

I hope we stay far away from this guy, even as a 3rd-stringer.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133233]NFL.com - Aaron Brooks[/url]

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Didn't we learn anything after seeing MB struggle in picking up this system last year? It takes a good year to get comfortable in this offense and some here want to cut BOTH Brunell and Collins??

Thank god the fans don't run the team I swear. :doh:

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The workout was a month ago, according to the article. Plus I don't think people realize how common this is, for an unsigned player to work out with the team. It happens all the time during the week, even during the regular season. It doesn't always mean something. Just a chance for the player to get some work in and the team to rest some of their guys. Plus, with Brooks being from Newport News, VA Redskins Park is just a few hours away.

Of course, if the Redskins sent someone down to work Brooks out then just ignore everything I wrote in this post ;)

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[quote=Mattyk72;331988]Didn't we learn anything after seeing MB struggle in picking up this system last year? It takes a good year to get comfortable in this offense and some here want to cut BOTH Brunell and Collins??

Thank god the fans don't run the team I swear. :doh:[/quote]

So let me ask you this. If we could upgrade the back-up QB position, but the guy had to learn the system. Would you bring him in? Or, would you take a guy who has less talent, but keep him around just because he knows the system?

Personally, I think all this taking a year to learn an offense is a bunch of BS. How about running less plays and executing them better?