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Hog's Breath 06-05-2007 11:17 PM

Portis Apologizes For Dog Fighting Comment
 
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Seems genuine to me. Glad to see it, too. Don't want the Skins to become a thug life team, yo!

hooskins 06-05-2007 11:26 PM

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I personally think people overreacted, because Portis is Portis. He says stuff. Anyways good thing he came out and said that though.

KLHJ2 06-05-2007 11:34 PM

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Yay, now we can focus on the rest of the BS the offseason brings! When in the hell is the season going to start? I am tired of this.

Pocket$ $traight 06-05-2007 11:34 PM

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I am kicking the next stupid dog that I see. This whole thing is idiotic and the fact that this is news pisses me off.

Are we in the NFC east or a goddamn tupperware party? The entire country needs to grow a pair.

SmootSmack 06-05-2007 11:36 PM

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I love Snoopy, Odie, Marmaduke, etc. as much as the next guy but why should Portis get more grief for these comments than this comment Devil Rays OF Elijah Dukes made to his [url=http://www.sptimes.com/2007/05/23/Tampabay/Ballplayer_s_wife__He.shtml]wife[/url]

"Hey, dawg. It's on, dawg. You dead, dawg. I ain't even bulls-------. Your kids too, dawg. It don't even matter to me who is in the car with you. N-----, all I know is, n-----, when I see your m-----f------- a-- riding, dawg, it's on. As a matter of fact, I'm coming to your m-----f------ house."

SmootSmack 06-05-2007 11:37 PM

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;315915]I am kicking the next stupid dog that I see. This whole thing is idiotic and the fact that this is news pisses me off.

Are we in the NFC east or a goddamn tupperware party? The entire country needs to grow a pair.[/QUOTE]

You think Daseal is going to be cool with you encroaching on his puppy kicking domain?

Pocket$ $traight 06-05-2007 11:57 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;315918]You think Daseal is going to be cool with you encroaching on his puppy kicking domain?[/quote]

If the mutt has a Cowboys sweater on I will choke it with it's leash! I may punt it off the side of my foot like Frosty in the fourth quarter.

skinsfan69 06-06-2007 12:02 AM

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Seems genuine to me. Glad to see it, too. Don't want the Skins to become a thug life team, yo![/quote]

I highly doubt CP's comments were going to make the Skins a thug team. Everyone knows how CP is and how he likes to joke around w/ the media. Everyone needed to just freakin chill the hell out.

djnemo65 06-06-2007 12:06 AM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;315917]I love Snoopy, Odie, Marmaduke, etc. as much as the next guy but why should Portis get more grief for these comments than this comment Devil Rays OF Elijah Dukes made to his [url=http://www.sptimes.com/2007/05/23/Tampabay/Ballplayer_s_wife__He.shtml]wife[/url]

"Hey, dawg. It's on, dawg. You dead, dawg. I ain't even bulls-------. Your kids too, dawg. It don't even matter to me who is in the car with you. N-----, all I know is, n-----, when I see your m-----f------- a-- riding, dawg, it's on. As a matter of fact, I'm coming to your m-----f------ house."[/QUOTE]

Fair point SS, what Dukes said is obviously worse, but I don't necessarily agree that just because someone said something more egregious we should pay less attention to the dog fighting issue. Both people should be condemned. Portis deserved the grief he caught, now he's apologized and seems genuinely contrite, so now let's round up the regulators and ride on Elijah.

Hog's Breath 06-06-2007 12:11 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;315926]I highly doubt CP's comments were going to make the Skins a thug team. Everyone knows how CP is and how he likes to joke around w/ the media. Everyone needed to just freakin chill the hell out.[/quote]


I don't know. He seemed pretty serious when he made the intial remarks.

Now, if he had been wearing a cape, rainbow colored wig, and a ginormous pair of sunglasses, then maybe he would have been joking.

KLHJ2 06-06-2007 12:16 AM

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Whatever who gives a shit? If anybody says something negative about a dog on this site it will not be public knowledge by tommorrow morning joking or not. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and freedom of speech. The United States seriously needs to consider changing its name to The United States of the easily offended. Stop crying just because somebody says something that you don't like!

djnemo65 06-06-2007 12:31 AM

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[QUOTE=angryssg;315929]Whatever who gives a shit? If anybody says something negative about a dog on this site it will not be public knowledge by tommorrow morning joking or not. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and freedom of speech. The United States seriously needs to consider changing its name to The United States of the easily offended. Stop crying just because somebody says something that you don't like![/QUOTE]

But it's not like he was saying The Departed shouldn't have won the Oscar, he was defending a felony. And freedom of speech just means that you can't go to jail for what you say, it has nothing to do with how people react to your words. Of course he is entitled to his opinion just as I am entitled to be disgusted with it.

Hog's Breath 06-06-2007 12:35 AM

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[quote=angryssg;315929]Whatever who gives a shit? If anybody says something negative about a dog on this site it will not be public knowledge by tommorrow morning joking or not. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and freedom of speech. The United States seriously needs to consider changing its name to The United States of the easily offended. Stop crying just because somebody says something that you don't like![/quote]

You're right, he is entitled to say what he wants. The thing that bothered me the most is that it came from one of our players.

KLHJ2 06-06-2007 12:41 AM

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[quote=Hog's Breath;315932]You're right, he is entitled to say what he wants. The thing that bothered me the most is that it came from one of our players.[/quote]

He may be a Redskin, but he is still an individual. He was not representing the organization when he made those remarks.

KLHJ2 06-06-2007 01:12 AM

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[quote=djnemo65;315930]But it's not like he was saying The Departed shouldn't have won the Oscar, he was defending a felony. And freedom of speech just means that you can't go to jail for what you say, it has nothing to do with how people react to your words. Of course he is entitled to his opinion just as I am entitled to be disgusted with it.[/quote]

Exactly my point. You don't have to like it, but you have to respect his rights.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 06-06-2007 01:50 AM

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I love all animals, particularly dogs. I also find dog-fighting disgusting and cowardly. And, of course, Portis' remarks were dumb. But, to be honest, I think the backlash against him was a little over the top.

skinsfan69 06-06-2007 08:24 AM

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[quote=Hog's Breath;315928]I don't know. He seemed pretty serious when he made the intial remarks.

Now, if he had been wearing a cape, rainbow colored wig, and a ginormous pair of sunglasses, then maybe he would have been joking.[/quote]

Did you happen to see how the interview was going before before they asked him about Vick? No. What you didn't see was that this was a laid back, joking around type of interview. They were joking around when the question came up about dog fighting and that's why Chris S. was kind of laughing. The way the media made this look was not right. CP should not have said what he said but please. It's not like he's going to dog fights, or is involved or anything like that.

If this was 20 or 30 years ago this would not have even made the news. But with all the mass media it gets played and replayed 50,000 times. I'm glad this is over casue I'm sick of it. Let's talk some football. Not about what some silly off the wall comments a guy made when he was basically joking around.

Schneed10 06-06-2007 08:59 AM

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Well, he was serious when he made the remarks. If you read his apology in the post, he says "A couple of weeks ago, when I made those comments I didn't understand the seriousness behind it, I didn't know it would affect that many people, and didn't think what I said was that offensive. But after doing some research and seeing how serious people take this, I shouldn't have made the comments."

In other words, he didn't realize dogfighting was wrong when he made those comments. It shows how ignorant he is, and I find that sad.

But I respect the fact that he showed interest in reading up on the subject and educating himself. And that I admire him for. Sometimes people don't know stuff that they should, happens to all of us at some point. But the worst thing would be if he just ignored all the criticism and kept being an ass about it. He manned up, read more about it, and now recognizes it's a sensitive issue for people. End of story.

On to the real news buried within the text of the post article: his knee is looking better. That's rather awesome.

MTK 06-06-2007 09:04 AM

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Hopefully everyone can move past this now.

This whole thing was ridiculous from the start.

JDALY27 06-06-2007 09:24 AM

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Did anyone notice the part in the article where Portis said he recently saw a woman caring for her dog in an airport.......it made him think of a commercial where people were weeping over a dying whale?

I think Portis thinks it super funny that his comments created such a fire-storm.

If that's not a joke then I don't know what is.

firstdown 06-06-2007 09:25 AM

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[quote=angryssg;315934]He may be a Redskin, but he is still an individual. He was not representing the organization when he made those remarks.[/quote]
Not representing the Redskins when he said those remarks. He was at the Redskins Beach Blast when he said that. I agree that he has the freedom to say what he wants but people also have the right to disagree with him when he support an illegal activity.

irish 06-06-2007 09:51 AM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;315978]Did you happen to see how the interview was going before before they asked him about Vick? No. What you didn't see was that this was a laid back, joking around type of interview. They were joking around when the question came up about dog fighting and that's why Chris S. was kind of laughing. The way the media made this look was not right. CP should not have said what he said but please. It's not like he's going to dog fights, or is involved or anything like that.

If this was 20 or 30 years ago this would not have even made the news. But with all the mass media it gets played and replayed 50,000 times. I'm glad this is over casue I'm sick of it. Let's talk some football. Not about what some silly off the wall comments a guy made when he was basically joking around.[/QUOTE]

As I said in a prior thread, CP is a dim whit who is unable to understand or notice when an interview shifts from light-hearted, joking questions to something more serious (a fellow player potentially commiting a felony). He also thinks he is clever and funny when in fact he is neither. I do think his apology is genuine but I also believe he still thinks that whatever people do on their own property with their own property (legal or illegal) is fine.

BigSKINBauer 06-06-2007 11:06 AM

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Good i never want to hear about this again

Longtimefan 06-06-2007 11:31 AM

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;315945]I love all animals, particularly dogs. I also find dog-fighting disgusting and cowardly. And, of course, Portis' remarks were dumb. But, to be honest, I think the backlash against him was a little over the top.[/QUOTE]


Portis has said exactly what I thought when he made the comments he did. He hadn't given much thought to what he was saying, nor had he taken into consideration the sensitivity of the issue. I too am a dog lover, and have been for a long, long time, and find no solace in watching them destroy one another.

His comments seemed quite genuine, and I think he learned a lesson from that experience, and that's what's important. There's no way we can downplay the love many of us have for our pets, (dogs in particular) a love that has a long and storied history since the civilization of mankind.

Dan Reeves said, and I [quote] " They are the one's that will always love you when you come home, regardless of the score. [unq.]

irish 06-06-2007 02:35 PM

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[QUOTE=Longtimefan;316082]Portis has said exactly what I thought when he made the comments he did. He hadn't given much thought to what he was saying, nor had he taken into consideration the sensitivity of the issue. I too am a dog lover, and have been for a long, long time, and find no solace in watching them destroy one another.

His comments seemed quite genuine, and I think he learned a lesson from that experience, and that's what's important. There's no way we can downplay the love many of us have for our pets, (dogs in particular) a love that has a long and storied history since the civilization of mankind.

Dan Reeves said, and I [quote] " They are the one's that will always love you when you come home, regardless of the score. [unq.][/QUOTE]

Not only did he not take into consideration the sensitivity of the issue, he said he had no idea people loved animals so much. What planet has this guy been living on his whole life?

He couldnt take the issue's sensitivity into consideration because he didnt know it was an issue. I still think he is sincere in his apology but boy is he dense.

MTK 06-06-2007 02:39 PM

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If he's never had pets before I don't think it's too crazy to think he didn't understand just how attached some people are to their animals.

In the end who cares, let's move on.

hesscl34 06-06-2007 02:48 PM

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<yawn> !!!!!

irish 06-06-2007 02:51 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;316118]If he's never had pets before I don't think it's too crazy to think he didn't understand just how attached some people are to their animals.

In the end who cares, let's move on.[/QUOTE]

Having or not having pets, I find it amazing (impossible?) that anyone who is even remotely aware of the world around them could live in the USA in the 21st century and not be aware that people become very attached to their pets.

I dont think people should be losing sleep over this but I do think it tells us a lot about CP's character & intellect.

skinsfan69 06-06-2007 02:55 PM

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Is anyone going to give a damn about this come Sept? Is anyone not going to cheer for CP when he's running for 100+ yards against Miami just because he made some stupid comments about dog fighting? Nope.

MTK 06-06-2007 02:59 PM

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I'd be willing to bet there are people that would be amazed at how much some of us love a professional football team.

JDALY27 06-06-2007 03:07 PM

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People Crying Over A Dying Whale???????????????

irish 06-06-2007 03:12 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;316124]I'd be willing to bet there are people that would be amazed at how much some of us love a professional football team.[/QUOTE]

They might be amazed at the depth & breadth of the love but they are aware that football teams are loved.

MTK 06-06-2007 03:15 PM

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[quote=irish;316133]They might be amazed at the depth & breadth of the love but they are aware that football teams are loved.[/quote]

That seems to be what he's saying, I don't think he's saying he had no idea people loved their animals, I just don't think he realized the depth and breadth as you say:

"I had no idea the love that people have for animals or didn't consider it when I made those comments," Portis said. "I'm not even a pets man. I've got a fish — that's the easiest thing to keep up. I've never been into dogs, never dealt with dogs, don't like playing with dogs. But at the same time, there's a lot of people who are crazy over pets."

irish 06-06-2007 03:20 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;316135]That seems to be what he's saying, I don't think he's saying he had no idea people loved their animals, I just don't think he realized the depth and breadth as you say:

"I had no idea the love that people have for animals or didn't consider it when I made those comments," Portis said. "I'm not even a pets man. I've got a fish — that's the easiest thing to keep up. I've never been into dogs, never dealt with dogs, don't like playing with dogs. But at the same time, there's a lot of people who are crazy over pets."[/QUOTE]

Thats not how I interpreted it.

SmootSmack 06-06-2007 03:32 PM

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[QUOTE=irish;316121]Having or not having pets, I find it amazing (impossible?) that anyone who is even remotely aware of the world around them could live in the USA in the 21st century and not be aware that people become very attached to their pets.

I dont think people should be losing sleep over this but I do think it tells us a lot about CP's character & intellect.[/QUOTE]

I'm probably not alone in thinking that your opinion is clouded somewhat by the fact that you have admittedly been rather disgusted with the team as a whole for the last few years; to the point that even good news/decisions are received by you with a rather negative response. So that an ignorant, unknowingly harmful statement by Portis is met by extreme derision on your part. If I recall though, you've never been a fan of Portis, saying he wasn't tough enough, or a hard-worker (something along those lines).

You're entitled to your opinion of course. But am I very off base in thinking this?

MTK 06-06-2007 03:57 PM

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[quote=irish;316137]Thats not how I interpreted it.[/quote]

He says it pretty clearly at the end, he says he has no interest in dogs but he knows there are people that are crazy about them.

He probably didn't understand just [I]how[/I] crazy people are.

He's not a robot, I'm sure he knew that people loved their pets, he just didn't realize the degree to which people love them.

MTK 06-06-2007 03:58 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;316138]I'm probably not alone in thinking that your opinion is clouded somewhat by the fact that you have admittedly been rather disgusted with the team as a whole for the last few years; to the point that even good news/decisions are received by you with a rather negative response. So that an ignorant, unknowingly harmful statement by Portis is met by extreme derision on your part. If I recall though, you've never been a fan of Portis, saying he wasn't tough enough, or a hard-worker (something along those lines).

You're entitled to your opinion of course. But am I very off base in thinking this?[/quote]

That's how I interpret it.

ArtMonkDrillz 06-06-2007 05:38 PM

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I just finally got around to reading the article about Vick's case in last week's SI and I found something rather interesting.

The next time some cowboys fan tries to give you crap about Portis' [I]comments[/I] just remind them that back in 1991 that moron [URL="http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/05/25/nate-newton-doesnt-discuss-dog-fighting-on-nfl-network/"]Nate "400lbs of weed" Newton was arrested while [I]at[/I] a dogfight.[/URL]

It might not be much, but I always love having a retort for other teams' fans' comments.

hooskins 06-06-2007 06:09 PM

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;316187]I just finally got around to reading the article about Vick's case in last week's SI and I found something rather interesting.

The next time some cowboys fan tries to give you crap about Portis' [I]comments[/I] just remind them that back in 1991 that moron [URL="http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/05/25/nate-newton-doesnt-discuss-dog-fighting-on-nfl-network/"]Nate "400lbs of weed" Newton was arrested while [I]at[/I] a dogfight.[/URL]

It might not be much, but I always love having a retort for other teams' fans' comments.[/quote]

This is great AMD, because I know my friends(Boys fans) at school are gonna give me shit. This really should shut them up.

hooskins 06-06-2007 06:13 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;316138]I'm probably not alone in thinking that your opinion is clouded somewhat by the fact that you have admittedly been rather disgusted with the team as a whole for the last few years; to the point that even good news/decisions are received by you with a rather negative response. So that an ignorant, unknowingly harmful statement by Portis is met by extreme derision on your part. If I recall though, you've never been a fan of Portis, saying he wasn't tough enough, or a hard-worker (something along those lines).

You're entitled to your opinion of course. But am I very off base in thinking this?[/quote]

Yupp, I agree. Anyone true Redskins fan knows where Portis's intent is. And I dont think anything is wrong in him hoping Vick gets cleared. That's opinion.


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