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Just heard it on ESPN here on the west coast. Chris Mortensen reporting it live. Garrett will be the OC. What do you all think of this hiring? Regardless of who they hire, they will always S.U.C.K.

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Interesting choice. He knows the 3-4 defense which JJ wants to keep in Dallas. I heard that Norv had really hurt his chances when he supposedly told Jones he didn't want Garrett to be his OC.

Phillips is an average coach, but a pretty good d-coordinator. I'm curious to see who replaces him in San Diego and how the Chargers will be affected by losing both their coordinators from the past few seasons

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lol damn i was hoping ol' Jerrah didn't learn from the Skins' and Raiders mistakes and hired Norval. Oh well I don't know much about Wade Phillips, but i do know he wasn't a very successfull head coach and he's a pretty good d-coordinator.

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[QUOTE=mooby;275670]Oh well I don't know much about Wade Phillips[/QUOTE]

Well he has a burlesque dancing daughter named Tracy Phillips. He is the son of former NFL coach "Bum Phillips" who was the head coach for the Oilers (1975-1980) and then the head coach of the Saints (1981-1985).

Phillips had ben the head coach of 4 NFL teams, Saints, Broncos, Bills, Falcons(intreim). Phillips had taken the Broncos and the Bills to the playoffs, once with the Broncos and twice with the Bills. Phillips was the Bills headcoach when the Titans hit the Bills in the face with what we know as the "Music City Miracle."

Over all Phillips is considered to be one of the great defensive minds in the NFL today. His winning percentage is 56.25%. He was 16-16 in Denver and 29-19 in Buffalo.

Oh and now he is soon to be the new HC of the cowboys...

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[quote=Redskins8588;275671]Well he has a burlesque dancing daughter named Tracy Phillips. He is the son of former NFL coach "Bum Phillips" who was the head coach for the Oilers (1975-1980) and then the head coach of the Saints (1981-1985).

Phillips had ben the head coach of 4 NFL teams, Saints, Broncos, Bills, Falcons(intreim). Phillips had taken the Broncos and the Bills to the playoffs, once with the Broncos and twice with the Bills. Phillips was the Bills headcoach when the Titans hit the Bills in the face with what we know as the "Music City Miracle."

Over all Phillips is considered to be one of the great defensive minds in the NFL today. His winning percentage is 56.25%. He was 16-16 in Denver and 29-19 in Buffalo.

Oh and now he is soon to be the new HC of the cowboys...[/quote]

mucho gracias mi amigo. I didn't know Bum Phillips was his dad. If history repeats itself, then we can expect to see the Cowboys in the playoffs but not deep, he's 0-3 in the playoffs so far. Either way i hope he doesn't succeed with the Cowboys and sends them into a deep hole that they'll never recover from lol.

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Its not a terrible hire....

Honestly, with the guys who were the canidates, unless Phillips lights the world on fire this year, I have always thought Jones just wanted to bring someone in for a season, then throw money at a big name guy (maybe Lovie Smith), following this season. With the talent on that team though, I think it would be a huge mistake if thats the truth, because it will set the franchise back about 3-4 years, and alot of the talent that is good now, wont be as good then. I'd like to hear a Cowboy fans take on that, it just seemed like these canidates were very average, especially for a franchise like Dallas. I mean I know he had success there, but Norv Turner? Wade Phillips? Jason Garrett? Dosen't sound like Jerry Jones to me. I would pretty much expect the same things if we were looking for a head coach and thats who Snyder brought in.

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Recycling is good for the environment................coaching? We'll see. he and TO should get along perfectly. Can't wait

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It's a stop gap hire. Jones is the real coach anyway.

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I think your right as Jerry already hired his OC in Jason. I know Wade can't be real happy about that. Just Jerry letting him know who runs the show. However, how many more chances does Wade have to succeed? He is in perfect position to accept a less than ideal setup. And..............as you say, Jerry can coach the team.

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Here we go again, recycling washed up head coaches. Oh well, I see one less competitive team in the NFC East.

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[QUOTE=saden1;275710]Here we go again, recycling washed up head coaches. Oh well, I see one less competitive team in the NFC East.[/QUOTE]

I definitely would not say that. Phillips is inheriting a pretty decent team. They were 1 play away from going to Chicago last season. I think they will still be just as competitive as they were last season and they play us tough no matter what. Don't count anyone out quite yet, its only February.

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It should be interesting to see how this pre-assembled coaching staff comes together. I just find it very odd to hire a head coach and throw a coordinator on him.

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[QUOTE=Warpath;275731]I definitely would not say that. Phillips is inheriting a pretty decent team. They were 1 play away from going to Chicago last season. I think they will still be just as competitive as they were last season and they play us tough no matter what. Don't count anyone out quite yet, its only February.[/QUOTE]

The cowboys are an OK team at best even with Bill Parcells, what makes you think Phillips is going to do a better job than Bill Parcells? I'm sure they will have a good defense and be competitive against us but I wouldn't call the Cowboys winners regardless of what month it is. Hell, I wouldn't call the Skins winners either. The NFC East crown belongs to the Philly until someone takes it from them.

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[QUOTE=saden1;275755]The cowboys are an OK team at best even with Bill Parcells, what makes you think Phillips is going to do a better job than Bill Parcells? I'm sure they will have a good defense and be competitive against us but I wouldn't call the Cowboys winners regardless of what month it is. Hell, I wouldn't call the Skins winners either. The NFC East crown belongs to the Philly until someone takes it from them.[/QUOTE]

I definitely did not mean to give off the impression that I think the Cowboys will be better with Phillips than with Parcells. I just meant that they are still a decent team and I wouldnt discount them. I do agree about Philly. I made the same statement last year when everyone said they'd be at the bottom.

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He inherits a young, solid D that didn't play well at the end of the year for some reason. I see them being pretty solid on that side of the ball, as the transition shouldn't be that much.
On O, I wonder what impact Garrett will have on Romo et al. I would assume they'll have a new system & it will be Romo's first experience in learning a different nfl offense since he became pro. add in TO's drama, Glenn & that o-line getting older & you have to wonder how good that O can be?
It will be interesting to see how they draft. Probably should nab a guard or OT first.

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[quote=Mattyk72;275750]It should be interesting to see how this pre-assembled coaching staff comes together. I just find it very odd to hire a head coach and throw a coordinator on him.[/quote]

Think its good news for the Redskins. Wade Phillips is a pretty weak coach in my estimation. No way they are as good without "THE TUNA".

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I dont really care we'll still beat them twice next year!! ;)

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Interesting tidbit on the Dan Patrick show today ... of the 24 Super Bowl winning coaches, only 3 -- Bill Belichick(Browns), Mike Shanahan (Raiders), and Weeb Eubank -- won it in their second go-round as head coach.

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#4 is our lucky number.

Gibbs could get his 4th ring with his 4th different starting QB in his 4th year back and be the 4th coach to win a Super Bowl in his second stint all with the a team finished 4th in the division this year.

LOL

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Back to the topic, this homer loves the hire LOL

[url=http://www.panews.com/breakingnews/local_story_039150603.html]PAnews.com, Port Arthur, Texas - Jerry Jones finally got it right with Wade Phillips Hire[/url]

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I knew Coach Norv going to Dallas to make the Magic he made in D.C. was too good tobe true!

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"The flip side is he has a reasonable chance of hoisting a Super Bowl trophy sometime in the next few years. He certainly has a better chance of doing it in Dallas than anywhere else he’s been. So, again, what does he have to lose?"

I'm assuming he means as a head coach, otherwise he's a total dumbass.

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711;275677]Its not a terrible hire....

Honestly, with the guys who were the canidates, unless Phillips lights the world on fire this year, I have always thought Jones just wanted to bring someone in for a season, then throw money at a big name guy (maybe Lovie Smith), following this season. With the talent on that team though, I think it would be a huge mistake if thats the truth, because it will set the franchise back about 3-4 years, and alot of the talent that is good now, wont be as good then. I'd like to hear a Cowboy fans take on that, it just seemed like these canidates were very average, especially for a franchise like Dallas. I mean I know he had success there, but Norv Turner? Wade Phillips? Jason Garrett? Dosen't sound like Jerry Jones to me. I would pretty much expect the same things if we were looking for a head coach and thats who Snyder brought in.[/QUOTE]

I like the hire. I wanted a young blood, but i think Jerry is going to leave that up to his son when Jerry finally decides that he is done with the day to day football stuff. (How long does jerry have anyway, 5 years? Can't be more, dude is 65.)

So three years (fingers crossed) with Son of Bum, then Let Jason Garrett - RedBall - take over along with Jerry Jr. Sounds about right.


True Wade might not be a sexy pick - and that is the last time you are going to see the word 'sexy' near to the name 'Wade Phillips' - but who would be?
Jimmy Johnson isn't coming back and his assistants haven't done too well - Butch Davis, Norv, who is that dude at Pitt oh yeah Wannstadt - but with Garrett I think they have their future HC.

Let son of Bum bring back the 'Luv Ya Blue' fans and maybe he goes out with Jerry with some skins on the wall in three or four years.

Sure Cowher is a sexy pick as would be Lovie, but this team seems to be ready now, so rebuilding is four years off - I hope - and then you go with the young coach who can grow with the team.

I like the pick. I don't know how many pics of Bum Phillips with his 10 gallon hat we are going to see now.

I hope his pressers are as interesting...

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;275796]Interesting tidbit on the Dan Patrick show today ... of the 24 Super Bowl winning coaches, only 3 -- Bill Belichick(Browns), Mike Shanahan (Raiders), and Weeb Eubank -- won it in their second go-round as head coach.[/QUOTE]

What about Dick Vermiel?

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[QUOTE=5RINGS;275905]What about Dick Vermiel?[/QUOTE]


Yeah, you're right. Jon Cybil was wrong on that one then (he was the guest host).

Still, the point is retread head coaches are rarely successful. Not saying that it can't be done, but just look at the numbers.

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[quote=Mattyk72;275838]Back to the topic, this homer loves the hire LOL

[URL="http://www.panews.com/breakingnews/local_story_039150603.html"]PAnews.com, Port Arthur, Texas - Jerry Jones finally got it right with Wade Phillips Hire[/URL][/quote]


I can't believe Bum Phillips is still kicking. He looked 80 when he was coaching the Saints.

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[quote=Beemnseven;275910]Yeah, you're right. Jon Cybil was wrong on that one then (he was the guest host).

Still, the point is retread head coaches are rarely successful. Not saying that it can't be done, but just look at the numbers.[/quote]

Jon Gruden? Tony Dungy?

There have been a few that have at least made it back to the Big Game as well: Holmgren, Reeves, Parcells...can't remember if Bobby Ross was at Detroit before or after San Diego.

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[QUOTE=724Skinsfan;275912]Jon Gruden? Tony Dungy?

There have been a few that have at least made it back to the Big Game as well: Holmgren, Reeves, Parcells...can't remember if Bobby Ross was at Detroit before or after San Diego.[/QUOTE]


OK, you know what? Forget it! That's the last time I listen to anything Cybil has to say.

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[quote=5RINGS;275903]So three years (fingers crossed) with Son of Bum, then Let Jason Garrett - RedBall - take over along with Jerry Jr. [/quote]
explain to me the infatuation with garrett? its almost the same with alot of skins fans and russ grimm. how does anyone know how good a coach either one of these 2 are?

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I think the tuna coached up the cowboys and will probably be missed for a couple af seasons to come. wade, yeah he's a son of a bum.

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So is Phillips the coach or is Jones. Indications are that Norv didn't get the job because he bristled against letting Garret be OC. Garret was hand picked by Jones. I am heartened that this seems like a total step backward here. Just analyze this sentence.

The Cowboys have gone from Bill Parcells to Wade Phillips as the coach of their supposed SB level team.

As much as I HATE BILL PARCELLS he is still 400x the coach Wade Phillips is. This to me potentially relegates the 'Boys back to where they were before Parcells. A terrible team being run into the ground by Jones. Oh yeah they also kicked our ass anyways. We beat them more when they were good than when they sucked. Jeez.

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[QUOTE=724Skinsfan;275912]Jon Gruden? Tony Dungy?

There have been a few that have at least made it back to the Big Game as well: Holmgren, Reeves, Parcells...can't remember if Bobby Ross was at Detroit before or after San Diego.[/QUOTE]

I am not sure of Weeb Eubank, but Jon Gruden and Tony Dungy dont really fit. Once they were head coaches they stayed there. Unlike Shanahan, Belichick and Vermil. They either stepped down to a coodinator position or retired and then came back into the headcoach position. After Tampa Bay Dungy went to be a headcoach for the Colts and the same for Gruden after Oakland he went to be the headcoach for Tampa they didnt go back down to a coordinator or position coach.

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Totally off topic, but just heard something I never knew. The Cowboys haven't won a playoff game in 10 years. So at least we have something on them....I guess..

I just hate everything about the Cowboys...

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[quote=FRPLG;275967]So is Phillips the coach or is Jones. Indications are that Norv didn't get the job because he bristled against letting Garret be OC. Garret was hand picked by Jones. I am heartened that this seems like a total step backward here. Just analyze this sentence.

The Cowboys have gone from Bill Parcells to Wade Phillips as the coach of their supposed SB level team.

As much as I HATE BILL PARCELLS he is still 400x the coach Wade Phillips is. This to me potentially relegates the 'Boys back to where they were before Parcells. A terrible team being run into the ground by Jones. Oh yeah they also kicked our ass anyways. We beat them more when they were good than when they sucked. Jeez.[/quote]

Good point. If anyone had to choose betwen Parcells and Phillips, I believe the unanimous vote would be for Parcells. Doesn't seem anywhere close to a lateral move on the Cowboys part. I do feel that their Defense will be as good or probably even better, though.

Anyone know how successful KC's offense was versus 3-4? I ask that because hopefully, under year 2 of the Saunders Experiment, we'll start looking a little more like the KC team {724Skinsfan winces at the potential onslaught of rebukes from that last part}.

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[quote=Redskins8588;275990]I am not sure of Weeb Eubank, but Jon Gruden and Tony Dungy dont really fit. Once they were head coaches they stayed there. Unlike Shanahan, Belichick and Vermil. They either stepped down to a coodinator position or retired and then came back into the headcoach position. After Tampa Bay Dungy went to be a headcoach for the Colts and the same for Gruden after Oakland he went to be the headcoach for Tampa they didnt go back down to a coordinator or position coach.[/quote]

Okay, I guess. How about Don Shula: Colts then Dolphins? Marv Levy: Chiefs then Bills (I know he lost with the Bills but...).

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Another interesting take on this:

[url=http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/lopez/4539434.html]It's another puppet regime for Cowboys | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle[/url]

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[QUOTE=724Skinsfan;276061]Okay, I guess. How about Don Shula: Colts then Dolphins? Marv Levy: Chiefs then Bills (I know he lost with the Bills but...).[/QUOTE]

Still Don Shula never stepped down from being a headcoach only to come back and win with another team. In 1969 Shula was the headcoach for the Baltimore Colts, in 1970 Shula was the headcoach for the Dolphins.

Levy did take sometime away from being a headcoach between KC and Buffalo, and like you said he didnt win anything, 0-4 in the big game.

In Beemnseven's example the coaches he mentioned plus Vermil were headcoaches at one time then stepped down only to come back as a headcoach and then win the whole thing. Shula, Dungy, and Gruden never quit being a headcoach once they got that far. They may have won with a different team than where they started out at, but they moved laterally in the careers, not backwards.

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Is Seibel now the official host of the sports bash?

I never thought I'd say it but I miss Erik Kuselias. Freddy Coleman is horrible too.

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[quote=Redskins8588;276077]Still Don Shula never stepped down from being a headcoach only to come back and win with another team. In 1969 Shula was the headcoach for the Baltimore Colts, in 1970 Shula was the headcoach for the Dolphins.

Levy did take sometime away from being a headcoach between KC and Buffalo, and like you said he didnt win anything, 0-4 in the big game.

In Beemnseven's example the coaches he mentioned plus Vermil were headcoaches at one time then stepped down only to come back as a headcoach and then win the whole thing. Shula, Dungy, and Gruden never quit being a headcoach once they got that far. They may have won with a different team than where they started out at, but they moved laterally in the careers, not backwards.[/quote]

I understand. I guess my initial interpretation of the post was simply a coach having coached two teams, not the circumstances of how they arrived at their second/new team.

Wasn't Dungy fired? That's roughly the same as an involuntary retirement. Luckily he signed with the Colts about 3 hours after being handed his pink slip.

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[QUOTE=724Skinsfan;276083]I understand. I guess my initial interpretation of the post was simply a coach having coached two teams, not the circumstances of how they arrived at their second/new team.

Wasn't Dungy fired? That's roughly the same as an involuntary retirement. Luckily he signed with the Colts about 3 hours after being handed his pink slip.[/QUOTE]

I am not sure as to what happened with the Bucc's and Dungy. Yeah, there are headcoaches that have switched teams and had sucess. But in general headcoaches that were demoted to a coordinator or position coach and then brought back later as a headcoach usually dont have much sucess.