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diehardskin2982 02-01-2007 11:11 AM

Your Pick
 
Of these 5 players who would you take and why?

Alan Branch
Jamaal Anderson
Gaines Adams
Amobi Okoye
Paul Posluszny

Or would you take someone else? Present your player and you reasoning Stregths vs Weaknesses.

As for me it is Branch. I feel his talent, size and potiental paired with Griffin would be like nitro. He is a space-eater and although we would not be able to trade down. he is well worth it.

I've also said before that I'd give up next years first to get back into the first and take Posluszny similar to the Campbell pick. Put Paul in the middle with Branch, Griffin, Washington, Rocky, and Taylor would be nasty. Not to mentoin if we move Springs to safety, and sign the CB from the bills I 'd give up future picks in a heartbeat for that roster combination. So if anyone from the skins is reading this take notes!

Schneed10 02-01-2007 11:19 AM

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Branch.

My pick is based on need. The GW defense is predicated on stopping the run really well, forcing the offense into 2nd & longs and 3rd & longs, and then unleashing the hounds on a blitz. With Kedric Golston, we have a 290 pound DT with some quickness. He can outmaneuver guys on pass rushing plays sometimes, but if he's going up against a beefy guard like Philly's Shawn Andrews, he gets cleared the F out of the way on running plays.

And Salave'a obviously ain't what he used to be. Branch is 6'6", 330 pounds. He'd be an immovable object, clogging the run. Plus the dude can rush the passer, would occupy double teams, and would allow Carter an easier time to rush the passer.

Branch would clog the line of scrimmage, preventing linemen from reaching the LB level of our defense. Lemar Marshall might start to look like a decent linebacker again.

We NEED Alan Branch. We also need a corner; but I think that will be Nate Clements.

That Guy 02-01-2007 11:25 AM

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i don't think we'd take okoye or Posluszny unless we traded down a bit. The other three all seem pretty good to me, but they haven't started running their highlight reels 24/7 on espn etc yet, so it's still a bit early.

branch + griffin would be scary at DT though. daniels would need to be upgraded next year.

artmonkforhallofamein07 02-01-2007 11:26 AM

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[quote=Schneed10;274019]Branch.

My pick is based on need. The GW defense is predicated on stopping the run really well, forcing the offense into 2nd & longs and 3rd & longs, and then unleashing the hounds on a blitz. With Kedric Golston, we have a 290 pound DT with some quickness. He can outmaneuver guys on pass rushing plays sometimes, but if he's going up against a beefy guard like Philly's Shawn Andrews, he gets cleared the F out of the way on running plays.

And Salave'a obviously ain't what he used to be. Branch is 6'6", 330 pounds. He'd be an immovable object, clogging the run. Plus the dude can rush the passer, would occupy double teams, and would allow Carter an easier time to rush the passer.

Branch would clog the line of scrimmage, preventing linemen from reaching the LB level of our defense. Lemar Marshall might start to look like a decent linebacker again.

We NEED Alan Branch. We also need a corner; but I think that will be Nate Clements.[/quote]


I agree with you. I didnt realize how big A B was.

ArtMonkDrillz 02-01-2007 11:27 AM

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I don't know a whole lot about these guys but I went with [B]Branch[/B] because of his ability to help out against the rush. If Branch can take some of the attention off Carter I think we'll see the team's total sacks go up dramatically. Likewise, if teams can't just run up the gut on us every play the secondary won't have as much pressure on them to help out up close.

724Skinsfan 02-01-2007 11:46 AM

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Got to go with Branch as well with the repeated thought that he is a big object that will stop the run. If Brandon Jacobs is the Giants starting RB then we'll need a big body against him. Likewise with the Cowboys duo.

My only thoughts on him as far as being effective are:
1) Griffin's health - will he stay healthy for Branch's second (first full season) in '08.
2) At what point will he start being a consistent contributor to the team? Whatever Defensive rookie we take GW will sit him for at least half a season with the possibility of rotating him in every now and then.

Hog1 02-01-2007 11:49 AM

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Gotta' be Branch. How sweet would it be to rush only the down lineman, and still pressure the QB? That leaves lots of other guys for GW's mischief!

Bill B 02-01-2007 11:52 AM

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Alan Branch - everything above pretty much sums it up.

redsk1 02-01-2007 02:36 PM

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I think I would trade down, maybe even a couple times, to accumulate a late first rounder and potentially 3 or 4 other 2nd/3rd round picks. That would give the skins about 4 top picks to build some depth to our team. Our needs are more than just DL. You could still pick up a top lb late first round (Paul P, Willis, Blades, Buster Davis) and have several more picks to get some depth at CB, Safety (Josh Wilson, Ross, Rouse, etc) to fill in some holes. So we could put all our eggs in one basket w/ Branch (who could be a great pick) or get 4 quality starters for our D. Just an opinion though. It depends how much others want our pick and what they are willing to give us. We just have a lot of holes on D. Keep in mind we'll most likely pick up 1 key FA for the defense.

dmek25 02-01-2007 02:44 PM

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who ever it is, they need to be able to get after the quarterback. right now , probably branch. but i was pleasantly surprised by golston. he had a pretty good rookie year

Big C 02-01-2007 03:49 PM

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Pozlusny? ive read he is nowhere near an elite prospect and might be a 2nd rounder. i went okoye but id be just as happy with branch

skinsfan69 02-01-2007 03:58 PM

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Whoever the best player is then take that person. Regarless of position unless it's a QB or RB. The last time we drafted for need we took Carlos Rogers instead of Shawn Merriman or DeMarus Ware. Drafting for need gets you nowhere. If Branch is there and he is the best player then take him. If Charles Johnson slips and he is the best player at 6, which he would be, then take him. We are not good enough to be drafting by need.

JGisLordOfTheRings 02-01-2007 05:33 PM

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Branch or Okeye. Branch REALLY impresses me with his speed and his ability to totally control the line of scrimmage by himself. Okeye also caught my eye. He's what, 18? And he's THAT good NOW!? Jesus....I think either would be a good choice seeing as how badly our D is hurting in areas. CB is next spot to be looked @.

GTripp0012 02-01-2007 07:27 PM

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Okoye intrigues me. He's a smaller DT, but that type of player has had success recently.

I still went Branch though. IMO, hes better. Branch is the one guy on that list that I would rather have than a trade down.

GiantsSuck703 02-01-2007 08:33 PM

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It has to be Alan Branch, the only guy thats better than him in this draft is Calvin Johnson and there is no chance he falls to us. We need to use this pick, not trade back for a couple of average players. Take Alan Branch and draft a DE in the first round next year. We could team Alan Branch and Kedric Golston for the next ten seasons, and this will make our LB and our DB much much better.


PLEASE PICK ALAN BRANCH JOE GIBBS

BrudLee 02-01-2007 09:33 PM

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I went with Okoye (hopefully after falling back to the 11th or 12th pick). He's 19 freaking years old, and is already a monster. I see him growing into the league.

GTripp0012 02-01-2007 10:13 PM

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[quote=Hog1;274032]Gotta' be Branch. How sweet would it be to rush only the down lineman, and still pressure the QB? That leaves lots of other guys for GW's mischief![/quote]This is a great suggestion/point. I think its reasonable to assume that this season Gregg Williams was trying to become far less blitz dependant this season with the signing of Carter. I think he realizes that statistically, the blitz is a play on which you are going to give up more yards per play than a play where a team rushes four. A play where a team blitzes isn't more likely to produce an interception. Quite simply, the blitz is a play that teams use to get some pressure on the QB when the front four aren't getting it done.

I suspect GW figured that the combination of Saleve'a, Griffin, Daniels and Carter could get to the QB consistently without a blitz. It worked...to an extent. Carter commanded double teams when we four man rushed. In my estimation, last season our blitzes were pretty effective because of the presences on the defensive line. Players like Wynn or Daniels could get to the QB or at least draw double teams. It just seems like anytime GW dialed up a blitz this season, Carter became a non factor. Instead of using the speed rush, he was relagated to rush an interior gap, and simply didn't have the skills to make an impact. Thus this season, we'd blitz and get beat in the secondary because the pressure would never get there.

Carter wasn't the only factor, but if we are going to play with him at end, we have to start moving away from the blitz and rely on his pass rushing skills.

bigm29 02-01-2007 10:21 PM

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i voted for brach but the only thing i have againt that is maybe we should see what we have in montgomery/golston. its very possible that one could emerge as a playmaker. odds are they wont but its still very possible

GTripp0012 02-01-2007 10:24 PM

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[quote=bigm29;274202]i voted for brach but the only thing i have againt that is maybe we should see what we have in montgomery/golston. its very possible that one could emerge as a playmaker. odds are they wont but its still very possible[/quote]They should still get their chance. I mean, we are going to need to replace Griffin in one, maybe two years tops. Maybe by that point, one is a player. If not, we could always hit up free agency.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-01-2007 10:48 PM

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In my mind, Branch would have the biggest impact on our defense of any of the draft prospects. However, I am not totally convinced that drafting Branch would be the best use of the 6th overall pick.

As has been said repeatedly by many, we might best be served if we can find a way to trade down and nab two defenders (e.g., Patrick Willis and a DB or DT). We simply have an abundance of holes in our defense at every level. We need not only quality starters, but quality depth that can step in when (not if) starters start to get bitten by the injury bug.

bigm29 02-02-2007 11:05 AM

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;274206] As has been said repeatedly by many, we might best be served if we can find a way to trade down and nab two defenders (e.g., Patrick Willis and a DB or DT). We simply have an abundance of holes in our defense at every level. We need not only quality starters, but quality depth that can step in when (not if) starters start to get bitten by the injury bug.[/quote]


Trading down would be the ideal thing. the problem it is very hard to do.

skinsfan69 02-02-2007 11:39 AM

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[quote=BrudLee;274195]I went with Okoye (hopefully after falling back to the 11th or 12th pick). He's 19 freaking years old, and is already a monster. I see him growing into the league.[/quote]

I kind of agree with you. He looks like he has the most potential. However he might not really be able to help us intil 2-3 years.

Monkeydad 02-02-2007 11:47 AM

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A lot of people here are high on Branch and I'd also love to see him in Burgandy and Gold...but I saw Posluszny play this year and he's amazing. He's all over the field and always seems to be in the right place to make a play. He reminds me a lot of Urlacher. I'd like to see him on our team as well. We can't get both though. Tough decision for me.

Posluszny is faster than Branch (although smaller) and he's a harder worker and gives it his all on EVERY play. Branch makes a lot of big plays but doesn't try on every down. Also, I don't know much about Branch personally, but Paul P. is a humble guy and a team player...just what Coach Gibbs looks for in players.

I'll be in the minority and pick Posluszny.

I can't stand Penn State either, but this guy is for real.



In reality, we'll pick Branch most likely and it will be a smart pick.

70Chip 02-02-2007 10:23 PM

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I say Adams. If you want pressure from the front four you get it from the Ends. We've seen in the past that chasing two marquis tackles (Wilkinson, Stubblefield) is not a magic bullet. Tackles can occupy blockers and force things outside, but they do not put up big sack numbers and they will not be able to help when the opposing team goes after Carter and Holdman in the running game which even the slowest of offensive coordinators will see and be looking to exploit.

We need to spread the talent out a little bit rather than wasting it all in one part of the field. Its a question of spacing.

offiss 02-06-2007 03:45 AM

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I would have to see more film on Branch, Anderson, and Adams before I could make a definate decision, one in which would have to wow me in order to take them that high, if not I would start trading down.

As for Posluzsny, I wouldn't give up a first rd pick for him as I wouldn't have done that for Campbell either, first off Williams can mold a great athlete into a good LB which would be much more cost effective and allow us to utilize the higher picks for more needy areas if we trade down, as well he has had a knee injury, I know he played all year without a problem but first round? [Not for us but a possibility for another team with few needs], I wouldn't unless we really do a lot of trading down and winde up with a few late 1st rounders which is very highly unlikely.

I don't think we have the ability to identify talent unless it's really jumping off the charts for the current evaluators, so I believe they will try to play it safe and take Branch.

GTripp0012 02-06-2007 04:41 PM

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[quote=70Chip;274521]I say Adams. If you want pressure from the front four you get it from the Ends. We've seen in the past that chasing two marquis tackles (Wilkinson, Stubblefield) is not a magic bullet. Tackles can occupy blockers and force things outside, but they do not put up big sack numbers and they will not be able to help when the opposing team goes after Carter and Holdman in the running game which even the slowest of offensive coordinators will see and be looking to exploit.

We need to spread the talent out a little bit rather than wasting it all in one part of the field. Its a question of spacing.[/quote]The DTs coming out of college today are way more athletic than they were 10 years ago. The high picks not only have adequate bulk to clog the middle in the same manner that other guys at their position did awhile back, but also have great athleticism to beat blocks and pressure the QB.

Citizens for 81 02-08-2007 07:33 PM

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Branch is a slam dunk at this point if the skins stay at #6.

He'd solidify the middle of the defense, help to free-up the LB's more, and give Andre Carter more opportunities.

I'm surprised more people haven't picked Adams, he's a potential sack monster and most fans tend to salivate over that.

I suppose I have to give credit to my fellow fans of the son's of DC.

Gmanc711 02-08-2007 11:50 PM

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I still like trade down, but out of this I voted for Gaines Adams, but would like Jammal Andersen just as so.

I know Alan Branch would prob be the best player to fall to us, and I wouldnt be upset if we drafted him. However, I still like the defensive tackles that we drafted next year, and I think if we do that thing we all wish we would do and "develop", I think Golston for sure and maybe Montgomery could pan out and become good DT's for us, with Griffin there, I think we could be set at that postion.

At DE however, after Carter, I really dont see much to work with there after another year or so. I mean I like Daniels, I love Wynn as the leader and person, but as a player, lets call a spade a spade he's average at best. I still really like Evans, but I dont know if I ever see him being anymore than a good pass rusher for us. So I think Carter is really the only guy we can count on there, so I think adding a defensive end is our best bet. Just my opinion though.


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