Lindsey's firing....what does it mean
 

Things just don't add up. The public relations word is that he was too outspoken. However, I know there have been outspoken coaches under Gibbs before. I think there is more to this story....

1. Could Lindsey be involved in the article bashing G. Williams?
2. Could Lindsey's loyalty to Holdman and keeping Rocky on the bench be another issue?
3. Could it be that he was a divisive figure in the locker room? Did he lose the position players? The reason I ask, is that first Lavar, now I don't see ANY public defense of Lindsey by either Marshall or Washington, or Holdman.

4. All of the above??

Just my 2 cents....

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I think all it meant was his drill sargeant style and his ill advised public comments at times rubbed Gibbs the wrong way. Personally I wouldn't try to dig too deep here, the reasons for his firing seem pretty obvious.

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He was a drill sgt type and with the current "keep the players happy & comfortable" attitude the Redskins have adopted that was not going to fly. I also think somebody had to be a scapegoat for this season's terrible defense and he was the most painless choice.

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I think you can still have a tough coaching style without being a complete a-hole, which Lindsey seems to be. GW isn't exactly the easiest going guy around.

I think more than anything his comments about LaVar early in the season really did him in.

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In my estimation, there are several reasons why Lindsey was fired: (1)Lindsey and Gibbs are polar opposites and Lindsey probably rubbed Gibbs the wrong way; (2) perhaps more importantly, the linebackers did not produce last season; and (3) there is always the unknown - what took place in Redskins Park behind closed doors will likely never be revealed as Gibbs runs a tight-lipped ship.

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Who knows. Teams change position coaches like they change underwear.

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I think it's more surprising that safeties coach Steve Jackson was fired.

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His comments about Lavar, though true, probably sealed his fate. Gibbs demands that coaches and players maintain a veneer of "class" when discussing opponents and dealing with the media generally. It didn't help that the linebackers played like shit all year either.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;273823]Who knows. Teams change position coaches like they change underwear.[/QUOTE]

What kind of underwear does the team wear? ;)

(I'm sorry, that was SO cheezy)

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;273824]I think it's more surprising that safeties coach Steve Jackson was fired.[/QUOTE]

I think you mean "wasn't"

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;273835]I think you mean "wasn't"[/QUOTE]

Yeah. Oops, my bad.

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[quote=lifetimeskin;273807]Things just don't add up. The public relations word is that he was too outspoken. However, I know there have been outspoken coaches under Gibbs before. I think there is more to this story....

1. Could Lindsey be involved in the article bashing G. Williams?
2. Could Lindsey's loyalty to Holdman and keeping Rocky on the bench be another issue?
3. Could it be that he was a divisive figure in the locker room? Did he lose the position players? The reason I ask, is that first Lavar, now I don't see ANY public defense of Lindsey by either Marshall or Washington, or Holdman.

4. All of the above??

Just my 2 cents....[/quote]

I don't really care. I'm just glad he's gone. There was obviously something going wrong and if Gibbs let this guy go I trust that he was the issue.

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He was disliked and didn't take ownership of things. Comments like 'I'm not gonna be responsible for players knowing the scheme(total paraphrase)' tend to piss people like Gibbs off when he takes ownership for everything. Even stuff he shouldn't. Plus the guy was just a dickhead who no one really liked. Why keep him around?

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[quote=FRPLG;273849]He was disliked and didn't take ownership of things. Comments like 'I'm not gonna be responsible for players knowing the scheme(total paraphrase)' tend to piss people like Gibbs off when he takes ownership for everything. Even stuff he shouldn't. Plus the guy was just a dickhead who no one really liked. Why keep him around?[/quote]
if i didnt know who you are talking about, i would swear it was saunders:)

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I'm inclined to agree with irish, someone had to be the fall guy for such a dismal season from the defensive side of the ball. It's not like they didn't know about Lindsey's gruff, and outspoken personality when they hired him, and the issue only came to the forefront with the incident involving LaVar. The previous two seasons when the defende played well, there didn't seem to be a problem, but after last season's debacle someone had to fall, and he seemed to be the most likely choice.

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If they were simply looking for a scapegoat then why not Jackson?

The secondary was a bigger mess than the LBs.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;273876]If they were simply looking for a scapegoat then why not Jackson?

The secondary was a bigger mess than the LBs.[/QUOTE]

Those are exactly my sentiments. Plus, Gibbs is NOT the kind of coach or man who would scapegoat a guy. He has too much class and honor to do that.

If the ESPN story is true, Jackson deserves to be fired just for being a pouter, let alone a bad coach who fielded a bad unit.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;273878]Those are exactly my sentiments. Plus, Gibbs is NOT the kind of coach or man who would scapegoat a guy. He has too much class and honor to do that.

If the ESPN story is true, Jackson deserves to be fired just for being a pouter, let alone a bad coach who fielded a bad unit.[/quote]

I completely agree. There was obviously more to Lindsey's firing than him simply being scapegoated. If we took a poll after the season asking who was more likely to be fired, Lindsey or Jackson, I can't see how many would have picked Lindsey.

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I'm glad he's gone. His whole attitude as well as the failure of the linebackers leads me to believe we're better off without him. Same goes for Steve Jackson, he needs to leave as well. One secondaries coach is enough.

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I agree about the fall-guy--someone had to take the heat, and our LBs were not up to snuff.

But they were better than our secondary. I think it was kinda that GW had to fire someone, and he likes Jackson more. Which is not a good sign for our secondary...

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[quote=lifetimeskin;273807]Things just don't add up. The public relations word is that he was too outspoken. However, I know there have been outspoken coaches under Gibbs before. I think there is more to this story....

1. Could Lindsey be involved in the article bashing G. Williams?
2. Could Lindsey's loyalty to Holdman and keeping Rocky on the bench be another issue?
3. Could it be that he was a divisive figure in the locker room? Did he lose the position players? The reason I ask, is that first Lavar, now I don't see ANY public defense of Lindsey by either Marshall or Washington, or Holdman.

4. All of the above??

Just my 2 cents....[/quote]

Obviously he was a bad coach since Holdman (a more talented linebacker than Lavar and Rocky) has looked so bad under Lindsey.

B-Mitch had a funny line on his show. He said that the Redskins had one linebacker on the team and he wasn't referring to the converted safety or "Highway 57".

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I'm not saying Lindsey deserved to be scapegoated but I think that when you look at all the coaches that could have been canned he was the one that could be fired without causing the most disruption to the D.

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I would think that firing one of our 2 secondary coaches would be less disruptive. After all Lindsey was the "only" LB coach.

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I'm prone to believe he was fired after Gibbs compiled all of the responses given by the players and coaching staff during the exit interviews (or whatever they're called). He probably noticed some similiarities between players and coaches comments suggesting that Lindsey's presence was not going to be conducive to the success of the team in 2007.

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if your an a-hole and you're guys play well, you keep your job. when they play as poorly as they did this year though... (not that its his fault holdman sucked)

I'm all for trimming the staff though. Two down (lindsey, (coy) gibbs), more to go (hopefully).

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He never put money into Gibbs' cuss jar and that really upset him.

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;273829]What kind of underwear does the team wear? ;)

(I'm sorry, that was SO cheezy)[/quote]

Look at all the changes that go on all around the NFL. Assistant coaches come and go all the time. So I look at it like changing underwear. It's no big deal. I would expect Jackson to go too.

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[quote=lifetimeskin;273807]Things just don't add up. The public relations word is that he was too outspoken. However, I know there have been outspoken coaches under Gibbs before. I think there is more to this story....

1. Could Lindsey be involved in the article bashing G. Williams?
2. Could Lindsey's loyalty to Holdman and keeping Rocky on the bench be another issue?
3. Could it be that he was a divisive figure in the locker room? Did he lose the position players? The reason I ask, is that first Lavar, now I don't see ANY public defense of Lindsey by either Marshall or Washington, or Holdman.

4. All of the above??

Just my 2 cents....[/quote]


Means just maybe Lavar was right.