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Well, which unbeaten team (so far) has the best shot at giving those Dolphins from '72 a run for their money? I don't believe it's Indy again this year.

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Cincinnati is the best, so I'll go with them. Not sure they'd be able to take the 72 Dolphins though.

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72 Redskins with Jurgensen at QB! (Another quarterback controversy!)
(We were the favorite, even with Kilmer.) (And, for those who consider preseason important, the 72 Dolphins last (only?) loss was to the Redskins in preseason.)

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none of the teams will do it, and the bengals definitely wont do it. look at that division! they have to play the steelers once more and the ravens 2 times!

the best chance is the seahawks. i dont like them, but lets get real. they have a horrible division still and are a pretty good football team

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Nobody. There is nobody with the schedule and fire power to do it.

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Bears?

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none. one of the few sports records that will never be touched

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"Bears?"

---I don't think the Bears will do it...although I do think they are much better than last years Bears team with a healthy Grossman all year. They host Seattle this weekend, and have a 3-game road trip in November to the Giants, Jets, and Patriots. Other than that their schedule is pretty soft. Minnesota looks tough but they've already beaten them in Minnesota. Detroit and Green Bay are terrible...they also play Buffalo, Arizona, SF, Miami, St. Louis, and Tampa. Nothing too scary there but they'll probably drop at least a couple games somewhere...especially if Grossman gets hurt.

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yeah its just not going to happen

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None. The Colts from last year had the best chance in a long time. They're not as good as they were last year without a dominant RB, the defending champs look horrible and no one else this year looks AS good as either of those teams from last year.

The Bears have found some offense and should contend for the NFC, but they're nowhere near capable of going undefeated.

The Seahawks looked worse than last year BEFORE the Madden curse kicked in.

The Panthers aren't as good and Smith is not healthy.

The Giants are hugely disappointing.

The Eagles are better than last year but not as good as their SB year.

The Cowboys implosion has begun.

The Bucs lost their mediocre QB and now have a rookie QB to lead them to the playoffs. Ha, yeah right.

Falcons look worse than last year.

The Saints look good so far and only their weak division will let them make the playoffs.

Vikings...don't impress me.

Packers...nope.

The Redskins will turn their season around and compete with 'Da Bears. :)

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I'd say Bears based on their schedule. They have some easssssssy games mixed with 3 or 4 tough ones. If anyone has a chance I'd say them based on that alone...


but realistically, no one is this year.

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Indy if anyone, but I don't think it's going to happen this year. The Bears can't survive the playoffs.

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[quote=onlydarksets;220731]Indy if anyone, but I don't think it's going to happen this year. The Bears can't survive the playoffs.[/quote]

Who (other than the Skins) are going to challenge them in the playoffs?

(look at my previous post with an NFC rundown...)

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[quote=skinsguy;220501]Well, which unbeaten team (so far) has the best shot at giving those Dolphins from '72 a run for their money? I don't believe it's Indy again this year.[/quote]

Any of today's teams would have a better than average chance to beat the 1972 Dolphins. The reason is the size of their respective Offensive and Defensive lines.

The 1972 Dolphins relied heavily on their running game (Larry Czonka) get help get their passing game moving. The passing game in 1972 was based on a 5 - 7 step drop by the QB. Today most QBs are using a 3 step drop. Today's game moves faster and the lines are much larger.

I think the 1972 Dolphins would lose the contest just based on the fight in the trenches. Compariing a 1972 team to a 2006 team is comparing apples to oranges. But that does not take away anything from the accomplishment of the 1972 Dolphins.

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[QUOTE=Buster;220742]Who (other than the Skins) are going to challenge them in the playoffs?

(look at my previous post with an NFC rundown...)[/QUOTE]
Indy, at a minimum. Gotta win the big game, too.

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[quote=onlydarksets;220752]Indy, at a minimum. Gotta win the big game, too.[/quote]

Wrong conference...but if the Bears can make it through the playoffs, they have a chance in the big game. Any team does, really.

So you can admit the Bears are good enough to win the NFC after saying they can't survive the playoffs? Make up your mind!

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[quote=Buster;220757]Wrong conference...but if the Bears can make it through the playoffs, they have a chance in the big game. Any team does, really.

So you can admit the Bears are good enough to win the NFC after saying they can't survive the playoffs? Make up your mind![/quote]

"Wrong conference"? You make no sense. Perhaps you misunderstood the question in the first post.

We're talking about a perfect season. The '72 Dolphins went 17-0, which includes the Super Bowl. [b]If[/b] the Bears reach the SB, which is far from certain, they would still have to get through the AFC champ. If that's Indy, which is as likely as anyone else getting there, the Bears will lose, IMO.

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[quote=Buster;220757]So you can admit the Bears are good enough to win the NFC after saying they can't survive the playoffs? Make up your mind![/quote]

I said no such thing - quit making stuff up.

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[quote=Buster;220718]None. The Colts from last year had the best chance in a long time. They're not as good as they were last year without a dominant RB, the defending champs look horrible and no one else this year looks AS good as either of those teams from last year.

The Bears have found some offense and should contend for the NFC, but they're nowhere near capable of going undefeated.

The Seahawks looked worse than last year BEFORE the Madden curse kicked in.

The Panthers aren't as good and Smith is not healthy.

The Giants are hugely disappointing.

The Eagles are better than last year but not as good as their SB year.

The Cowboys implosion has begun.

The Bucs lost their mediocre QB and now have a rookie QB to lead them to the playoffs. Ha, yeah right.

Falcons look worse than last year.

The Saints look good so far and only their weak division will let them make the playoffs.

Vikings...don't impress me.

Packers...nope.

The Redskins will turn their season around and compete with 'Da Bears. :)[/quote]

After the third paragraph, you list a bunch of teams that already have losses (and then the Saints, who are, actually, undefeated). Now I'm convinced that you misunderstood the question.

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"Wrong conference...but if the Bears can make it through the playoffs, they have a chance in the big game. Any team does, really."

---The Bears have the defense to make it to the Super Bowl. And if Grossman plays well all season they will probably go 13-3 or something like that with their schedule. A good defense could give Indy or Cincy fits. Indy didn't look good against a mediocre Giants team and they also struggled vs. Jacksonville.

I think the jury is still out on the Bears to see how Grossman does as the season goes forward, but last year they won 11 games even with a very bad Kyle Orton at QB based on their D alone. This season Grossman has played well so far and a couple guys have stepped up on the receiving end too. If they keep that up they'll be very tough.

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[quote=onlydarksets;220761]I said no such thing - quit making stuff up.[/quote]

You just said the Colts would beat them in the playoffs, meaning the Super Bowl obviously.

That's also why I threw in "wrong conference".

You make no sense! :benched:

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[quote=onlydarksets;220773]After the third paragraph, you list a bunch of teams that already have losses (and then the Saints, who are, actually, undefeated). Now I'm convinced that you misunderstood the question.[/quote]

It was an addition to my statement about no teams being good enough to be undefeated. It seems to me that the entire playing field has really evened out this year. There don't seem to be many dominant teams like last year and many teams who were good last year have been downgraded talent-wise, whether by free agency or injuries.

Now I'm convinced you lack reading comprehension. That was a joke too, incase you lack a sense of humor. :)

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[quote=Buster;220797]You just said the Colts would beat them in the playoffs, meaning the Super Bowl obviously.

That's also why I threw in "wrong conference".

You make no sense! :benched:[/quote]

Sigh...no, I said that Indy is [U]one[/U] team that could beat them. "at a minimum" means [U]other[/U] teams could beat them as well. I didn't take the time to list all of the teams that I think can beat the Bears. :rolleyes:

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This is a funny argument, since we both agree that nobody is going undefeated...

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[quote=RFKRat;220783]"Wrong conference...but if the Bears can make it through the playoffs, they have a chance in the big game. Any team does, really."

---The Bears have the defense to make it to the Super Bowl. And if Grossman plays well all season they will probably go 13-3 or something like that with their schedule. A good defense could give Indy or Cincy fits. Indy didn't look good against a mediocre Giants team and they also struggled vs. Jacksonville.

I think the jury is still out on the Bears to see how Grossman does as the season goes forward, but last year they won 11 games even with a very bad Kyle Orton at QB based on their D alone. This season Grossman has played well so far and a couple guys have stepped up on the receiving end too. If they keep that up they'll be very tough.[/quote]


I agree, but it should be noted that it doesn't take a great offense, especially QB to make it to the Super Bowl. Grossman is "good enough" to help take them to the Super Bowl. Heck, they almost went with Kyle Orton!

In the last 11 years:

Trent Dilfer won a SB.
Kurt Warner won a SB.
Jeff Hostettler won a SB.
Ben Roethlisberger won a SB by throwing 15 times a game.
Chris Chandler went to a SB.
Jake Delhomme went to a SB.
Kerry Collins went to a SB.
Stan Humphries went to a SB.
Neil O'Donnell went to a SB.

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[quote=onlydarksets;220805]This is a funny argument, since we both agree that nobody is going undefeated...[/quote]

Yeah it is. We should both drink some more coffee and I should get a CP avatar. :)

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[quote=onlydarksets;220802]Sigh...no, I said that Indy is [U]one[/U] team that could beat them. "at a minimum" means [U]other[/U] teams could beat them as well. I didn't take the time to list all of the teams that I think can beat the Bears. :rolleyes:[/quote]

Ok, last one for this from me (you should be relieved)...

If Indy "can" beat the Bears in the postseason, it HAS to be in the Super Bowl. SO, if you're saying Indy can beat the Bears in the playoffs, it has to be in the Super Bowl, so you must think the Bears are good enough to make the Super Bowl after saying they won't survive the playoffs.


:cheeky-sm:Flush::confused::sleep:

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By week 7, everyone will have a loss.

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[quote=Buster;220813]Ok, last one for this from me (you should be relieved)...

If Indy "can" beat the Bears in the postseason, it HAS to be in the Super Bowl. SO, if you're saying Indy can beat the Bears in the playoffs, it has to be in the Super Bowl, so you must think the Bears are good enough to make the Super Bowl after saying they won't survive the playoffs.


:cheeky-sm:Flush::confused::sleep:[/quote]

Seriously - let it go...