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BrudLee 09-25-2006 07:36 AM

Brunell sucks - Ends Game with 2/5 passing
 
Just thought I'd give the haters a place to hang out...

724Skinsfan 09-25-2006 07:52 AM

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I'm not really a hater but can I hang out anyway?

FRPLG 09-25-2006 08:06 AM

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funny

EternalEnigma21 09-25-2006 08:13 AM

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2/5 is rediculous! I was not aware of that! Thank you brud for arming me with the ammunition I need to discredit that drab performance yesterday...

... on a side note, do you guys ever get gas that smells like food? I swear everytime I fart this morning I think i just walked into taco bell... and I haven't eaten taco bell!

GhettoDogAllStars 09-25-2006 08:23 AM

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...try Dr. Rose's fart pads:
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-85o4amEvQ]YouTube - Doctor Rose Fart Pads[/url]

TheMalcolmConnection 09-25-2006 08:27 AM

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I feel "better", but I still want to see him hit a couple deep bombs. Sure, we didn't have to do that against the Texans, but I want to see him open it up.

FRPLG 09-25-2006 08:57 AM

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;219742]I feel "better", but I still want to see him hit a couple deep bombs. Sure, we didn't have to do that against the Texans, but I want to see him open it up.[/QUOTE]
Are you talking about Tuna's gas here?

12thMan 09-25-2006 09:02 AM

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Great thread, Brunell sucks!!! Bring in Collins!!!

onlydarksets 09-25-2006 09:05 AM

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He looked comfortable dumping five yard passes in a three-step drop against the worst defensive team in the league. Yippee.

I'm glad he connected on nearly all of them, but he passed for a total of about 50 yards. I'll be curious to see the YAC. TMC is right - we need to see some longer passes. I only saw 2-3 attempts all game.

JoeRedskin 09-25-2006 09:22 AM

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Brunnell had a fine game. He did what was asked and didn't make any mistakes. Against the Texans, he didn't need to make big plays. Against the Jags, he will need to make some big plays. I hope he does.

12thMan 09-25-2006 09:24 AM

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I must say, I'm still encouraged by what I saw. The fact the he actually connected on 22 straight passes can't be taken away, anyway you slice it.

You have to figure that Jacksonville will have to gameplan for all the mis-direction and screen plays. He looked comfortable for the first time yesterday. The offense will build on yesterday's success and start taking some deep shots.

onlydarksets 09-25-2006 09:37 AM

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JoeRedskin and 12thMan said it well. MB was competent, and you can't knock 22 completions in a row. If he continues to not make mistakes (and the O-line can buy him time, which is the unknown factor), then there should be quite a few more wins this season for the Skins.

JWsleep 09-25-2006 10:17 AM

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It was certainly a step in the right direction, but he has to show it against more than the Texans, obviously. But it took just one game to get him on track last year, so maybe that sort of spark is what he needs. Recall how bad he sucked before the 4th quarter in Dallas last season. Then he rolled until he got hurt.

illdefined 09-25-2006 10:22 AM

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what i'd expect from a vet facing absolutely zero pass rush.

jbcjr14 09-25-2006 10:24 AM

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Jags will gameplan to take CP out of the game which will open up the outside for the receivers. I look for the Skins to play another good game this weekend at home and MAYBE they can squeak a win out from a VERY good team.

backrow 09-25-2006 10:46 AM

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets;219788]you can't knock 22 completions in a row. [/QUOTE]


I saw a number of penalties, both ours, and theirs that kept the streak alive!

His life was spared just like he spared HOF Coach Gibbs life. Except his relief came in the form of yellow hankies!

It's kind of like a BB player who walks three times, and gets a big DNP beside his name in the box score. His BA neither goes up nor down!

Hog1 09-25-2006 10:51 AM

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If you give him grief in failure, you must give the props in success! I am happy, my employer does not look for reasons to DENY me my success's while still harpooning me with my failures!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4mrusmc 09-25-2006 10:57 AM

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I think the short stuff will work against jax. And then when the safeties start to creep up, bombs will start to drop and all of the Brunell haters wil get off of his jock. This team will go undefeated from here on out. This is the first game of the regular season.

724Skinsfan 09-25-2006 11:00 AM

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We'll take what the Defense gives us. If they want to focus on Portis (good luck!), we'll have Cooley, Randle El and Moss on deep and intermediate routes. I'd like to see more of Lloyd but perhaps there still a learning curve going on with him.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-25-2006 11:02 AM

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If he would have broken that one arm tackle on his slant, he would have been GONE. At least he's not dropping stuff like we heard he would.

Longtimefan 09-25-2006 11:16 AM

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[QUOTE=JWsleep;219823]It was certainly a step in the right direction, but he has to show it against more than the Texans, obviously. But it took just one game to get him on track last year, so maybe that sort of spark is what he needs. Recall how bad he sucked before the 4th quarter in Dallas last season. Then he rolled until he got hurt.[/QUOTE]



Yesterday was good for two reasons, one, we got the win, and two, we won't hear the Brunell bashing until we lose another game. Brunell's performance yesterday was the best thing that could have happened to him, and this team at least for another week. Mark my words, if we don't turn in a repeat performance on sunday against the Jags. the bench boys will be back. Stay tuned for the mood next monday.

Stacks42 09-25-2006 11:17 AM

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I cant believe that everyone is giving MB props for this game, we played probably one of the worst teams in the NFL. I think I could sit back there with no pressure and dump the ball of 22 times in a row, you have to give credit to the recievers, the ball placement was not all that good. On the TD to Randle El the ball was behind him and he was only 30 feet away, on the Patten Catch MB almost got him killed (that was only a 25yd pass and he over threw it again), Llyods grab was great another bad pass. If MB leaves his recievers open to big hits against the Jags there are going to be some players carted off the field, they have a nasty d that likes to punish. 24-27 for 267yards that is a little over 11 yards per pass, and if was mostly YAC that padded his numbers. We should have put Campbell in during garbage time for some experience. Congrats MB for beating what equates to a college team, without throwing a pass over 25 yds.

BDBohnzie 09-25-2006 11:18 AM

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Does it worry anyone else that he still can't go deep? Of his 24 completions, he hit 3 for longer than 20 yards, and one of those 3 was a shuffle pass. Granted, 22 in a row is great, and the W is key, but I can't help but feel any other decent defense will be able to put pressure on Brunell, and snuff out the short stuff.

illdefined 09-25-2006 11:20 AM

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[QUOTE=BDBohnzie;219855]22 in a row is great, and the W is key, but I can't help but feel any other decent defense will be able to put pressure on Brunell, and snuff out the short stuff.[/QUOTE]

that's my big concern. followed by our alarming defensive problems. this week didn't prove much at all except Clinton Portis is a good thing.

724Skinsfan 09-25-2006 11:37 AM

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[quote=BDBohnzie;219855]Does it worry anyone else that he still can't go deep? Of his 24 completions, he hit 3 for longer than 20 yards, and one of those 3 was a shuffle pass. Granted, 22 in a row is great, and the W is key, but I can't help but feel any other decent defense will be able to put pressure on Brunell, and snuff out the short stuff.[/quote]

Didn't seem to me that he needed to go deep. The 31-7 score would indicate the offense had a pretty good thing going. If another team focuses on the short passing game, Saunders will start throwing the ball a little farther. When the defense falls back to cover the longer passing plays we'll go pack to the short passing game.

Last year Mark went deep quite a few times. I'd be concerned if he has never shown the ability to get the ball downfield. Ask Roy Williams if he can still throw the ball deep.

onlydarksets 09-25-2006 11:41 AM

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He didn't need to go deep for that game because Houston's D is so atrocious, but we need the option against everyone else on our schedule. I'd rather try a couple of deep routes in a game like this where getting one picked off doesn't affect the outcome, as opposed to trying it for the first time against the Jags, where we will need something like that to stretch their D.

MTK 09-25-2006 11:45 AM

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He hit Patten on a nice rope for 25.

I don't worry about his arm strength at all.

All he needs is to get comfortable in this offense and with his new WRs.

DaveyFoSho 09-25-2006 11:47 AM

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Yea and patten was facemasked that play...but ha still ended in a TD!!!...and wow did randel el look nice yesterday!!!

Hog1 09-25-2006 11:56 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;219861]He hit Patten on a nice rope for 25.

I don't worry about his arm strength at all.

All he needs is to get comfortable in this offense and with his new WRs.

Totally, I was glad to see that

12thMan 09-25-2006 12:05 PM

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First of all, if Peyton nor Donovan could 'dump' the ball 22 straight times, I doubt any of us here could. Secondly, you're deceived if you think the Texans equate to a college team.

Honestly, I believe you were being a tad bit sarcastic but if you can't see anything positive about yesterday's performance I don't know what to tell you.

onlydarksets 09-25-2006 12:08 PM

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[QUOTE=12thMan;219879]First of all, if Peyton nor Donovan could 'dump' the ball 22 straight times, I doubt any of us here could. Secondly, you're deceived if you think the Texans equate to a college team.

Honestly, I believe you were being a tad bit sarcastic but if you can't see anything positive about yesterday's performance I don't know what to tell you.[/QUOTE]
Who is "you"?

onlydarksets 09-25-2006 12:10 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;219861]He hit Patten on a nice rope for 25.[/quote]

My back is still hurting from watching that play...

That was one of the few downfield passes that he had. If this was a conscious decision not to work it downfield, then fine - my trust is in the coaches. That said, I can't imagine why you wouldn't want to test the deep routes (or even the 15-20 yard routes) at least a few times against a soft D.

However, I remember at least one play where the commentators conjectured that he wasn't even looking at the deep route and quickly checked down to a short option underneath. We are going to need to spread the Jags' D next week. I'm sure the coaches will put together the best gameplan that they can - I just hope it's not a matter of Brunell skipping the deep routes because he lacks confidence.

Longtimefan 09-25-2006 12:10 PM

Re: Brunell sucks - Ends Game with 2/5 passing
 
[QUOTE=BDBohnzie;219855]Does it worry anyone else that he still can't go deep? Of his 24 completions, he hit 3 for longer than 20 yards, and one of those 3 was a shuffle pass. Granted, 22 in a row is great, and the W is key, but I can't help but feel any other decent defense will be able to put pressure on Brunell, and snuff out the short stuff.[/QUOTE]



It is a concern except for those who choose to stay in denial. It' not about bashing, or praising Brunell but we know the time is going to come when it's going to become imperative that you make plays down the field. Good defenses will take away much of what we were doing yesterday, espically once they see this is all you're going to do. The game plan the week before against Dallas was pretty much the same but they took away the dink and dunk because their defense is much better than Houston. The bottom line is, I'm not convinced we can beat a good defence on a consistant basis with that kind of offense. We can enjoy this one for now (I'll take it) but the ball has to go down the field, and Brunell has to prove he can do it or the birds will be out again real soon.

DaveyFoSho 09-25-2006 12:13 PM

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yea the perfect time would have been those 2nd and short...we had a bunch of plays like that 2nd and 1.....thats when u take a shot...if u do not connect just ram it for the first...Why was Duckett inactive??

illdefined 09-25-2006 12:16 PM

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[QUOTE=DaveyFoSho;219884]yea the perfect time would have been those 2nd and short...we had a bunch of plays like that 2nd and 1.....thats when u take a shot...if u do not connect just ram it for the first...Why was Duckett inactive??[/QUOTE]

they needed Duckett's space on the active roster for an extra TE.

yeah it was good to establish the run even further on 2nd and 1, but man at least one of those would've made a nice play action pass to Moss in the endzone..

RobH4413 09-25-2006 12:26 PM

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Brunell executed with flawless perfection during the first 3 quarters of the game. Don't undershoot Brunell, he played a great game.

I do happen to agree with Brunell in that this was more of an offensive record. Our receivers were making plays left and right and this was a direct result of our receiving corps upgrade.

jbcjr14 09-25-2006 12:30 PM

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The game of football is all about momentum. This is a good start for some momentum the team was lacking in the first two games. Anytime you can put up 495 yds of offense in the NFL is a good day and I don't care who you are playing. Let's hope with the talent on this team, the return of Springs they can build on this momentum and get on a roll.

REDSKIN1 09-25-2006 12:50 PM

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Why Are't We Getting Jc Any Reps? In The Fourth Quarter Of Ths Game Brunell Mostly Just Handed The Ball Off. Wouldn't This Have Been A Good Time To Put Jc In. Sooner Or Later We Need To Start Developing A Long Term Franchise Quaterback To Be Successful In This League. (ie. Eagles/pats/colts.......) We Can't Just Keep Bringing In Vets With 2-3 Years Left.

pg86 09-25-2006 01:14 PM

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What the hell is this....What game were you guys watching!?!?

DaveyFoSho 09-25-2006 01:20 PM

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[quote=pg86;219908]What the hell is this....What game were you guys watching!?!?[/quote]

LoL i know!! Nothing is ever good enough...we are Redskins fans we arent used to not having something to Bitch about so we must create it for this week!


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