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I LOVE THE REDSKINS 09-13-2006 03:59 PM

KEYS TO PULLING OFF A WIN in DALLAS
 
After that terriable monday night lost I asked myself many questions approaching Dallas week.

How to shut down TO? with a struggling secondary?
Can our front four apply pressure to a hurtful bledsoe?
I like al saunders new O but wheres the deep threat?
VIKS offense isnt great but here comes dallas can our D step up?
Wheres lyod or cooley? Is TJ gonna see any action in GL situations?
CAn Hall be clutch if it comes down to a FG?


These are just a few question that have been on my mind about dallas...Know i was my fellow diehards.[SIZE=3][B]WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO DIFFERNET TO WALK AWAY WITH A [SIZE=4]W [/SIZE][SIZE=3]IN DALLAS?[/SIZE][/B][/SIZE]

firstdown 09-13-2006 04:06 PM

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From all the threads that I have read the only person on the team who played great (or didn't suck) was Moss. So we sit the other 21 players, send 7 to the pratice squad, bring them on board, all the second stringers start and let Gibbs call the plays.

#56fanatic 09-13-2006 04:18 PM

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My keys : A healthy Portis, #1. Our offense seemed more fluid with him on the field. #2 Dallas is very aggressive, run some more misdirectional plays, especially at the beginning of the game. Try to hit them deep early, to move them away from the line of scrimmage. Run more middle screens, TE screens with Cooley. a Reverse. Dallas will be very pumped up and over pursuing in the beginning. Put Roy williams in position of coverage. HE stinks at coverage. If he lingers around the line of scrimmage all night, we will not be able to run the ball, and he will eat Brunnell for late night snack.

Defensively - Blitz, blitz, blitz. Our corners (minus springs) can not cover WR's for 4 seconds or more. (hardly any corner in the NFL can). If you pressure bledsoe early and often, hit him early and often it will produce some bad throws and maybe a pick or two, a fumble maybe. I dont think we pressured Johnson enough, which is why he converted so many 3rd downs. Keep Arch out of matchups with Witten. Carlos can not try and muscle TO at the line. No corner in the NFL can muscle him at the line. give him the 5 yards and work with him down the field. keep Taylor over the top, so when he does catch something have Taylor knock his helmet off. I would let Taylor try and send a message early to him or Glenn that they are not catching the ball around him. If it means a 15 yarder early, so be it. We need that toughness, that strut back. we did not have in the game agains Minnesota. WR were catching balls over the middle at will. We need to lay somebodies ass out so they will think twice about extending those arms. (like glenn did last year)

Special teams - Hope to god Hall doesn't need to make anything over 35 yards, and hope they let Frost kick off from the 40 so he can make it to the end zone. If our offense stalls, hopefully it will be around our 40, no further back, frost is good for a shank of 30 yards, may be two shanks.

Oh, and put a great big steak on the side line, maybe the Tuna will be distracted enough he wont worry about the game or stategies.

Twilbert07 09-13-2006 04:23 PM

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My keys: Score TDs when we get to the red zone and hammer TO at the line or within 5 yards every time the ball is snapped.

Also, it wouldn't hurt for more of our new free agents to show up and make some plays. Randle-El seemed to be the only one who showed up Monday night.

Things could get interesting if Parcells pulls Bledsoe early on and brings in Tony Romo.

dmek25 09-13-2006 04:26 PM

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the simple keys are, good offensive line play, and pressure on bledsoe. its a really simple game when you want it to be

TheMalcolmConnection 09-13-2006 04:26 PM

Re: KEYS TO PULLING OFF A WIN in DALLAS
 
Ask them to make it the Ring of Fame celebration at halftime?

:confused:

BMF21 09-13-2006 04:31 PM

Re: KEYS TO PULLING OFF A WIN in DALLAS
 
Blitz there ass and Blitz them until the Indian follow of our helment, .......because that D was Weak Monday night

Dogtag 09-13-2006 04:37 PM

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I'm old school. You win a tough game like this in the trenches. Defense must be disciplined and put pressure on QB. O-line must protect our QB and give him time to use our offensive weapons. No more 'look out' blocks along the O-line.

Just my opinion.

saden1 09-13-2006 04:58 PM

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This is going to be a tough game to defend the pass simply because of our CB weakness...perhaps we should explore putting ST on TO straight up in passing situations. It's definitely going to be a tough game but if we can score all should be well. I'm very frigging nervous about this game though.

firstdown 09-13-2006 04:59 PM

Re: KEYS TO PULLING OFF A WIN in DALLAS
 
What a game in just the 2nd week of the season. I know any time we play Dallas its a big game but we both are 0-1, coming off games we should have won, the looser will be 0-2 maybe 2 games behind first place and its on Sunday night primetime. Man I'm getting pumped up just typing this up.

724Skinsfan 09-13-2006 05:13 PM

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I predict a Redskins blowout. At least a two TD margin of victory. The Defense will show up and the Offense will be unstoppable. We had so many people do so many wrong things that if half of them play like they are supposed to we'll completely dominate the cowboys.

I thought I'd write an unsubstantiated opinion on Sundays game since it has the same effect as my careful analytical approach I applied to the Vikings game. Hail to the Redskins!

RiggoRules 09-13-2006 05:38 PM

Re: KEYS TO PULLING OFF A WIN in DALLAS
 
The key is very simple. It is essentially the same on offense and defense:

3rd Down

On defense, this is especially true for 3rd and 5+. On offense, it is especially true on 3rd and 3-.

Counter-Tre 09-13-2006 05:49 PM

Re: KEYS TO PULLING OFF A WIN in DALLAS
 
We need to get a mule to kick our field goals like in that old Don Knotts movie "Gus".

dblanch66 09-13-2006 05:57 PM

Re: KEYS TO PULLING OFF A WIN in DALLAS
 
[QUOTE=Dogtag;214922]I'm old school. You win a tough game like this in the trenches. Defense must be disciplined and put pressure on QB. O-line must protect our QB and give him time to use our offensive weapons. No more 'look out' blocks along the O-line.

Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]
that's it right there. trenches. pressure. run.

JankySpanky80 09-13-2006 06:09 PM

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i hate to admit this but i think we may be outmatched all the way around especially in the secondary so pressure on Bledsoe is the only way we win this game or unless TO and Glenn get hurt by Taylor

dall-assblows 09-13-2006 06:22 PM

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u put sean taylor on TO the whole game. one on one

cowboykiller89 09-13-2006 07:17 PM

Re: KEYS TO PULLING OFF A WIN in DALLAS
 
[quote=firstdown;214932]What a game in just the 2nd week of the season. I know any time we play Dallas its a big game but we both are 0-1, coming off games we should have won, the looser will be 0-2 maybe 2 games behind first place and its on Sunday night primetime. Man I'm getting pumped up just typing this up.[/quote]

I agree that we should have won the game (if Santana Moss would have just held on to that TD pass just a little tighter) but do not agree that Dallas should have won their game. They flat out choked, Bledsoe drove the Cowboys over the cliff with those three interceptions.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 09-13-2006 07:32 PM

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We have to win the trenches with our front four on defense. We are going to have to give a lot of assistance to Rogers, in covering T.O., and especially Wright, in covering Glenn. The Cowboys use a lot of 2-TE sets so our linebackers should be occupied as well. So, if we can't get pressure with our front four, we are going to struggle in pass coverage.

I strongly believe we should be stout in run-defense. If we aren't, there is simply no excuse.

We also have to be able to protect Brunell from Ware, Ellis, and Roy Williams. If we can't protect Brunell in pass protection, it doesn't matter how fast our wideouts are.

Finally, we need to play well on special teams, in terms of coverage and kicking.

So, I'd say our keys to the game are:
#1. Get to Bledsoe without having to bring 6 guys.
#2. Protect Brunell.
#3. Play well on special teams.

cowboykiller89 09-13-2006 07:52 PM

Re: KEYS TO PULLING OFF A WIN in DALLAS
 
[quote=724Skinsfan;214934]I predict a Redskins blowout. At least a two TD margin of victory. The Defense will show up and the Offense will be unstoppable. We had so many people do so many wrong things that if half of them play like they are supposed to we'll completely dominate the cowboys.

I thought I'd write an unsubstantiated opinion on Sundays game since it has the same effect as my careful analytical approach I applied to the Vikings game. Hail to the Redskins![/quote]

Spoken like a Genius...

vaoutlaws2006 09-13-2006 08:45 PM

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My key to victory is for the defense to get to Bledsoe early and often.

skinsguy 09-13-2006 08:48 PM

Re: KEYS TO PULLING OFF A WIN in DALLAS
 
I think Dallas takes us lightly and it bites 'em in the butt! I think we win 24-13.

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 09-13-2006 09:34 PM

Re: KEYS TO PULLING OFF A WIN in DALLAS
 
the way I see it...when we have the ball, we pass and run until we get points, and when THEY have the ball we stop them from doing such things...period

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 09-13-2006 09:35 PM

Re: KEYS TO PULLING OFF A WIN in DALLAS
 
This isn't a thread for predictions, but I'll take off my mod hat for a second and join in.

As much as I hate to admit it, I have a hard time believing that we will win this game by a significant margin (7+ points), if at all. I just think Dallas is too talented on defense and has too many weapons for our Springs-less defense to stop. I see us splitting the series with Dallas and I don't think we will be on top the first game. My guess is we lose 17-21.

That said, I think we will have a good season and the team will actually survive a loss in Big D and the totally disproportionate pissing and moaning from the fans on Monday morning. This "must-win game" talk is B.S. There are no "must-win games" until you've lost 5 games.

That Guy 09-13-2006 09:36 PM

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#1 healthy shawn springs
#2 play better
#3 play better
#4 play better

JankySpanky80 09-13-2006 09:55 PM

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[quote=That Guy;215058]#1 healthy shawn springs
#2 play better
#3 play better
#4 play better[/quote]

You can scratch a healthy Springs off that list unless some miracle of god happens!!!!!

MTK 09-14-2006 09:33 AM

Re: KEYS TO PULLING OFF A WIN in DALLAS
 
[B]Defense:[/B] We need to be able to put pressure on Bledsoe with our front four. It's obvious that with Springs out out of the lineup it hurts our ability to blitz and leave our corners matched up one on one in coverage. That being said, when we do blitz guys need to step the hell up. Rogers especially.

Overall the defense needs to get stops. If we allow Dallas to convert on 50% or better on 3rd downs forget about it, it will be a very long night again.

[B]Offense:[/B] Better execution in the redzone is key. We can't come away with 3 FGs again. That's just not going to get the job done. I think we need at least 3 TDs in this game. That's not too much to expect from this group of offensive talent.

The pass protection needs to shore things up. We had too many instances against the Vikings where Brunell was feeling the heat or getting flushed out of the pocket.

The running game needs to get cranking early. I don't care who it is, Portis, Betts, or Duckett, someone needs to establish the run to help keep the Cowboys defense on their heels.

Overall, the offense needs crisper execution and we need to play physical up front.

Beemnseven 09-14-2006 09:51 AM

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Hey Matty, off the subject a bit, but what was your final prediction this season for the Skins, win-loss wise?

Did your feelings change after Monday night at all?

MTK 09-14-2006 10:00 AM

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Not sure if I ever made an official prediction. In my gut I guess I'm expecting 10 or 11 wins. Monday didn't change my opinion either. We have some work to do but I'm not jumping off a bridge after one game.

onlydarksets 09-14-2006 10:14 AM

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Tackle. Their WRs and RB are too good for us to give up yards-after-catch.

irish 09-14-2006 10:44 AM

Re: KEYS TO PULLING OFF A WIN in DALLAS
 
[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;215057]This isn't a thread for predictions, but I'll take off my mod hat for a second and join in.

As much as I hate to admit it, I have a hard time believing that we will win this game by a significant margin (7+ points), if at all. I just think Dallas is too talented on defense and has too many weapons for our Springs-less defense to stop. I see us splitting the series with Dallas and I don't think we will be on top the first game. My guess is we lose 17-21.

That said, I think we will have a good season and the team will actually survive a loss in Big D and the totally disproportionate pissing and moaning from the fans on Monday morning. This "must-win game" talk is B.S. There are no "must-win games" until you've lost 5 games.[/QUOTE]


The Redskins better win this game because 0-2 means the team is down to a 14% chance of getting into the playoffs. 14% is not impossible but it sure makes things harder. If they go 0-3 (which I doubt) the % goes down to 4 and the season is pretty much done. This is very close to a must win game.

MTK 09-14-2006 10:47 AM

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Another thing we have to do is pound the ball inside. Dallas has alot of speed on defense, trying to run to the outside isn't going to work in this game. Not that it worked very well against the Vikings either.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-14-2006 10:55 AM

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Right. The Dallas interior line is nowhere NEAR as good as the Vikings was.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-14-2006 10:59 AM

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I think some quick screens are going to be money. It looks like people might not slob on Newman was much as they did last year judging by what Jacksonville did to him. On a side note, did anyone see how Newman basically sexually molested the Jags receivers in the end zone and then whined saying they interfered with HIM?!

12thMan 09-14-2006 11:50 AM

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I'm leaning toward us dropping this one. I know this is a veteran team and all, but I'm starting to wonder about this team's physche.

We'll see.

gibbsisgod 09-14-2006 11:55 AM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;215189]I think some quick screens are going to be money. It looks like people might not slob on Newman was much as they did last year judging by what Jacksonville did to him. On a side note, did anyone see how Newman basically sexually molested the Jags receivers in the end zone and then whined saying they interfered with HIM?![/quote] newman is horrible. he can run fast but he cant cover for shit.
TMC, not only will quick screens be there all day for the skins, it would be nice to see a pumpfake to moss on a wr screen (drawing the safety up)and then get lloyd or randle el over the top. the cowboys will be super aggressive early in this game and that could be big for us.

gibbsisgod 09-14-2006 11:58 AM

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and speaking of wr screens, does anybody think randle el will be throwing any passes this weekend? i can see him lining up in the same position that moss did on the first play monday night only to throw it again instead of running it.

backrow 09-14-2006 12:03 PM

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;214980]

So, I'd say our keys to the game are:
#1. Get to Bledsoe without having to bring 6 guys.
#2. Protect Brunell.
#3. Play well on special teams.[/QUOTE]


Can I quote you on that, and re-quote this key exact same key every week?

Monkeydad 09-14-2006 12:15 PM

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Keys to beating Dallas?

Bombs to Santana Moss. :)

Monkeydad 09-14-2006 12:15 PM

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[quote=gibbsisgod;215218]and speaking of wr screens, does anybody think randle el will be throwing any passes this weekend? i can see him lining up in the same position that moss did on the first play monday night only to throw it again instead of running it.[/quote]


I hope so. Burning Dallas is the perfect way to debut the play.

GhettoDogAllStars 09-14-2006 12:20 PM

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there are many ways we could win this game. but I played this game in madden last night, and ARE was the difference. look for at least one big special teams play. you heard it here first ;)


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