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It's always a given that someone responds before I can even get the poll posted.

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The hammer is in my hand ready to break the glass. We looked horrible last night. Offense didn't do shit, defense didn't do shit, backup defense didn't do shit, nobody did shit. It's one thing to say it was just one game, but this has been happening the whole preseason. Our starting offense hasn't even scored a touchdown yet. We've looked bad across the board. I still have a little hope that things are gonna change one the regular season starts. It's just that this team hasn't shown me anything to believe that might happen.

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I'm close, but not quite there yet.

On one hand, the coaches are using the preseason to learn about the team. Saunders is finding ways to isolate players in one-on-one situations to see how they'll perform. He's not doing any scheming whatsoever, he's revealed 2% of the playbook, so he says. Trouble is our guys are rarely winning those matchups. No matter what kind of scheming the coaches are doing, you hope that your lineman can be more physical, your WRs can be quicker, and your defenders can tackle with some authority.

I think the coaches are trying to find out what the players are capable of. The answers they're getting don't look good at all. So yes, I'm very concerned.

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me worry? about what? i trust in gibbs and company

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[quote=dmek25;208925]me worry? about what? i trust in gibbs and company[/quote]

Are you just going on blind faith? Or can you offer some sort of analysis or reasoning as to why there is no reason to worry?

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There are two pieces that now have me seriously concerned and with hammer in hand:

1.) No one seems to be able to identify what the real, underlying problem is with this team.
2.) Every single aspect of the game is failing. It isn't just the offense. It isn't just the defense. It isn't just the special teams. It isn't just our depth. It isn't just our starters. We can't block, tackle, run, pass, catch or kick. It really feels like this team is in a fog.

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I would be concerned IF:

We had any turnovers last night - we had none
We had any major injuries last night - we had none

It looks like a team lost it's top threat in the 1st game to injury and it looks a team is not really trying to force anything to happen beyond evaluating young talent. Maybe it doesn't look like much on SportsCenter, but I am way more interested in having 53 healthy players and our amazing coaching staff ready to face Minnesota in week 1 than looking sharp in preseason week 3. Last nights game aside, we really hadn't done that bad in preseason. We're 0-3, but in good company with another playoff favorite... Superbowl Champion Pittsburg Steelers.

I'll start worrying in week 4-5 of the regular season, not week 3 of the preseason.

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Mark me down as not worried.

I was burned back in Spurrier's first season. I bought into the preseason hype hook, line, and sinker. After that I promised myself I would never buy into any preseason hype, no matter how good or bad it is.

Gibbs' resume includes plenty of preseason disasters followed by plenty of winning seasons, some of those that included Super Bowls.

I don't call it blind faith, I call it trusting a man who's been there, done that, and trusting that history does indeed repeat itself.

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The only problem that I see so far is effort. Our defense has excelled mostly with effort and schemes. I would feel better if we had competed, but at no point yesterday did I see the Skins compete.

Offensively it's the same thing, effort. Giving up sacks to four man pressures, dropped passes, receivers not getting open, nothing is working.

The only bright spot is that none of these games has counted thus far. When the lights go on for real, we'll see what pops.

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Looking for the button.
New system takes time, yet we must have some concern. Here we are, basically done with preseason, and yet to have a decent 1st team drive. How are we to know if its the "vanilla" "2%" "dont show your hand" stuff or not? I would think with our 1st two poor showings we would have opened up the playbook alittle bit.
I believe we will struggle for a bit early this year. But with our talent, players and coaching, by week 5 or so we should be ok. Just hope we can get a couple Ws along the way.

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Hammer in hand.....not worrying yet but there is reason to be cautious.

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Hammer in hand.
The preseason stats that scare me most: Mark Brunell has led the first-strong offense to 0 points and he has a QB rating of 48.1.
If Brunell falters in the Vikings game, Gibbs should pull him as quickly as he pulled Ramsey last season. Let's face it, at some point we're going to have to swallow the medicine and start Campbell. I'd rather do it early on and take our lumps than start 0-3 with an ailing Brunell.

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None of the Poll Options seem to apply for me, so I couldn't choose. The Offense seems out of sync and has little rhythm, even when executing the basic so-called "vanilla" offense, which is somewhat disturbing to me. However, we still have two weeks to get an effective rushing game for the Vikings game (which should be enough), and three weeks to get our passing game down for the CowPukes (which we'll in order need to win).

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Hammer in hand. Look, I agree with Matty about preseason hype, but ALL the signs seem bad, as far as anything we've put on the field (especially last night). I'm hoping that the signs are not relevant, for the various reasons people have said. But I can't ignore the signs.

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Far too early to Panic. If you feel the need to panic, panic on these counts:

1. Special teams - kicking and punting are woefully inconsistent
2. Can the O-line stay healthly? Forget how the starters played yesterday, but if even one of them goes down, we're in trouble.

We played a bad game yesterday - we didn't show up. What could be a bigger indication of that than Moss dropping a pass. It was like the 36-0 beating we took from the Giants last year - where nothing goes right.

G Williams used the same defensive package yesterday - the entire game. He put a DB (e.g., Rogers, Archuletta) one-on-one with Ben Watson the entire game. Do you think this is going to happen in the regular season???!!! They will try not to leave Adam Archuletta one-on-one in coverage. On a couple of plays, GW sent an all out blitz, and Brady (one of the best QB's in the league, arguably one of the best QB's ever) burned us. Any good QB will do that. So what's new? Stop worrying about the defense.

On the Offensive front, if Al Saunders says he's comfortable with the way our starters are picking up the offense during practice, then that's good enough for me. The guy's overseen the league's top offenses over the last 5-6 years - this ain't Spurrier, folks.

Saunders most insightful comment is not that he's shown just 2% of the playbook - its the analogy with the boxing game he pointed to (aka which 2% has he shown). He said his pre-season philosophy is akin to trying to face an opponent in boxing where you're only allowed to use jabs (no hooks, upper-cuts, etc.) to attack the opponent. Will it take time for our starters to feel comfortable with the offense? Sure. Will that prevent us from laying a beating on the Vikings on MNF? Hell no!!

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Good post Hurrykaine. We came out jabbing and the pats came out with baseball bats... But 41-0? wow.

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I don't see any reason to worry, we havn't lost a game yet this year. It will be 3-4 weeks before I even consider that we may not win big this year. Panic right now, not hardly.

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thanks hurrykaine, that post made me feel better. still got the hammer in hand though. still concerned.

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Wish there was a milder choice like "Not Paniced but Wondering If There's a Button."

It's not the record that has me concerned, it's the regression from game one. I was looking for progress week by week.

You learn more from your mistakes, so maybe this is a blessing in a very good disguise.

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I have the hammer in hand.

This all comes down to one thing...fundamentals.

The Redskins are simply not executing basic fundamentals efficiently. That being said, I have full confidence that the Skins will beat the Vikings opening day, but seeing how the other teams have executed THEIR respective FUNDAMENTALS, my previously optimistic 13-3, 14-2 record predictions may go a bit by the wayside. I still feel playoffs, but rather than Super Bowl bound for sure, I'm a bit more cautious.

If the Skins come out and kick the shit out of the Vikings, I have to question the heart a little bit in the preseason. Also, it'll make me NEVER watch a preseason game again, because my heart can't take it.

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holding the 4 pound hammer as i post this. i am growing more and more concerned about out so called team.

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I guess Im close to putting the hammer in my hand but...
[LIST][*]Jansen needs help in pass protection against the pats. Not everyone, but he needed it against them. If it were a real game, he would have got a TE to help him, and Brunnell would be completing a few screens to keep the defense honest.[*]Have we seen a screen pass yet this preseason? It has been talked about as one of the best plays the offense runs in camp. This helps me believe Saunders is truely saving his best stuff.[*]Our coaches are not game planning. I think that our players are good, but our coaches are great. We wont know if our coaches are getting beat until its a regular season game. Period.[*]Moss dropped a pass at the 10 yard line. Im glad he got that out of the way before the regular season. Cooley has not been involved much...do we really believe that Saunders has stopped liking the TE?[*]The defense has looked worse each game. I take consulation in the fact that with essentially the same players as last year, we cant be as bad as we looked last night. It just is not possible.[*]Doughty and Macintosh combined for a fumble and recovery. Finally a rookie looks good! Espy and Farris look good. Maybe Espy can be molded to be the next young Trash.[*]Taylor looks like he is playing a little soft (for him), Maybe he has learned a little bit from the Portis accident.[/LIST]

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I too am going to check in as not worried, I really don't want to develop an ulcer before the season even starts. We haven't looked very good on a sustained basis so far this pre-season and I'm sure there is more than one reason why. I'm just trying hard not to decome disillusioned by all the "we suck" and finger pointing and complaining, because when we start winning games these are the same people who will be talking SB again.

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Quick! Name all of the teams in the NFL that currently have a better 2006 regular season record than the Washington Redskins?

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What? Me worry? Nah.

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Every superbowl champ for the past 10 years has had very good preseasons....but of course, who cares? Its football and anything can happen. If the Redskins hadn't pulled of that winning streak last year who knows what we would be thinking about ourselves right now. The coaching staff has been doing nothing to help its players out; there haven't been any great schemes or trick plays or what not. Obviously they don't care that much or they would be running those flea flickers and reverses like the other teams have been doing.

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Why worry? It's preseason! One thing I noticed when we were on offense in the first half. The Patriots blitzed almost on every down. There wasn't any game planning to slow the blitz down. After the team got behind, we got pass happy.

All in all, I am still excited about the season.

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relax, if its week 4 of the regular season and we lose those 3 like we lost the first 3 preseason games then I'll be worried. Its Gibbs, Williams, and Saunders who else do want to run your team? They will take care of it.

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Hammer in hand, ready to break the glass. Its not that were losing these games, hell I dont even care if were losing these games by big margins...the part that has me worried is our offense has yet to put a point on the board in three games, and our looked like a wet paper towel yesterday.

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I think that it was a good loss, hopefully it deflated our heads alittle bit. I will accept a 41-0 beating during preseason, it is during the season when you loose 41-0 you beat the hell out of the panic button...

I think that our coaching staff wanted to humble our players and let see that they are not as invincible as they think they are...

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[QUOTE=Twilbert07;208939]Hammer in hand.
The preseason stats that scare me most: Mark Brunell has led the first-strong offense to 0 points and he has a QB rating of 48.1.
If Brunell falters in the Vikings game, Gibbs should pull him as quickly as he pulled Ramsey last season. Let's face it, at some point we're going to have to swallow the medicine and start Campbell. I'd rather do it early on and take our lumps than start 0-3 with an ailing Brunell.[/QUOTE]

I couldnt agree more,problem is,gibbs has shown he HAS A MAJOR FCKIN HARD ON FOR BRUNELL!! it caused us to suck in gibbs first yr and it very well could be our downfall this yr,i dont think gibbs will pull brunell till our season is screwed

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Listen i know its preseason but i think there is alot of reasons to panic. Our QB situation is horrible Brunell gone back to his 2004 and late last season forum. Campbell been nothing i would be to excited about one score in three games. Lets not even tall about Tom Collins. I know its Todd but he plays like Tom. I especially was impressed but Brunells almost suffle past to the patriots for a Td. Even his completions the wr are streching to catch everyone of his passes never hitting them in stride. Don't give me this stuff about 2 percent of the o-fense, are you telling me that every team in the NFL shows their O-fense in preseason but the skins please. I think Coach Joe made a hugh mistake with this candy ass traing camp, only 3 two a days. These guys have practice soft and our playing soft. I know its preseason but come on can they at least look like they care or play like professionals. I done care if they win in preseason, but at least they should look like they have a clue. Every team in preseason seems to be able to move the ball on O-fense, I guess that because their showing thier whole playbook. But that defense wow that Andre Carter what a find all this presure and sack in these 3 games and acurletta he really good in coverage wow. Who didn't see that coming, i did i watch the him get burn with the rams in coverage for 3 years now. I know its preseason we all got burn by spurier,but we should look alot better than we do now. We haven't improved from the bengals game to this one. Hail to the skins and god help us if this is our future this year. Also glad to see the skins trade away another draft pick next year. That why we have no depth because we dont respect our draft.

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[QUOTE=CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR;209010]Listen i know its preseason but i think there is alot of reasons to panic. Our QB situation is horrible Brunell gone back to his 2004 and late last season forum. Campbell been nothing i would be to excited about one score in three games. Lets not even tall about Tom Collins. I know its Todd but he plays like Tom. I especially was impressed but Brunells almost suffle past to the patriots for a Td. Even his completions the wr are streching to catch everyone of his passes never hitting them in stride. Don't give me this stuff about 2 percent of the o-fense, are you telling me that every team in the NFL shows their O-fense in preseason but the skins please. I think Coach Joe made a hugh mistake with this candy ass traing camp, only 3 two a days. These guys have practice soft and our playing soft. I know its preseason but come on can they at least look like they care or play like professionals. I done care if they win in preseason, but at least they should look like they have a clue. Every team in preseason seems to be able to move the ball on O-fense, I guess that because their showing thier whole playbook. But that defense wow that Andre Carter what a find all this presure and sack in these 3 games and acurletta he really good in coverage wow. Who didn't see that coming, i did i watch the him get burn with the rams in coverage for 3 years now. I know its preseason we all got burn by spurier,but we should look alot better than we do now. We haven't improved from the bengals game to this one. Hail to the skins and god help us if this is our future this year. Also glad to see the skins trade away another draft pick next year. That why we have no depth because we dont respect our draft.[/QUOTE]

You're welcome to your opinion even though I agree with none of it.

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Well we will see what happen starting 9/11 i hope i'm wrong. Eagle are better this year so are the giants. Maybe Dallas. We have the third worst starting QB in the divinsion not the conference.

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The Patriots romped to a 41-0 shutout win over the Redskins at Foxborough in what was the largest preseason margin of victory by any NFL team since the Seahawks blasted the Colts, 45-3, on Aug. 16, 1997 -- the year before Peyton Manning arrived in Indianapolis

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anyone see t.o. got fined 9,500 by the team

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711;208998]Hammer in hand, ready to break the glass. Its not that were losing these games, hell I dont even care if were losing these games by big margins...the part that has me worried is our offense has yet to put a point on the board in three games, and our looked like a wet paper towel yesterday.[/QUOTE]


We went seven and a half qtrs. into the regular season last year without scoring a touchdown also, so maybe this is a trend we're setting.

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I'm not concerned on the whole.. I don't put much stock into preseason games, good or bad so who cares about the result. I don't like to see my team thrashed regardless of circumstance but I don't see the reasons for all of the panic. Truly the season starts about week 6 or 7. Going 3-3 (although I expect better) isn't a death knell for the team. I'd rather the team go into the season fresh and healthy than to have looked great in August.

As for the QB comments after last year I'll give Brunell the benefit of the doubt until we lose a couple of games at his hands. Gibbs has 3 more Super Bowl rings than I do and to him I defer.

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It's pre-season. Take a look at the success's we have had in years with lousy pre-season's