RB's are worried in Washington
 

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Who's on the block?

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Betts has the most market value.

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i cant see betts getting traded but i also cant see him and duckett on the redskins together

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I could see Betts being traded by Monday. Look at T.J Duckett's stats for four years compared to Betts and their is no comparison at all. Betts just couldn't stay healthy and I didn't like his performance against the Seahawks in the playoffs either. Jesse Lumsden definitely has a chance to make the practice squad or even the team if he has a great showing this Saturday. I was very impressed with his running ability against the Ravens during the scrimmage.

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betts has to get traded now, no question

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[QUOTE=Big C;207375]betts has to get traded now, no question[/QUOTE]

Why do you say now, rather than next week or the end of preseason? At this point, I don't think he would pass a team's physical with a nagging hamstring pull.

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[QUOTE=SUNRA;207377]Why do you say now, rather than next week or the end of preseason? At this point, I don't think he would pass a team's physical with a nagging hamstring pull.[/QUOTE]


i didnt mean now as in this very second. i meant now that we have made this trade, betts needs to get traded.

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[QUOTE=Big C;207378]i didnt mean now as in this very second. i meant now that we have made this trade, betts needs to get traded.[/QUOTE]


No doubt. I agree. Just can't see us getting a lot for him at this point. Philly seems to be the most desperate for a running back when you see them considering Stephen Davis for the RB spot.

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yeah, if betts is big, tJ is a monster
the coaches think that we will run thru out opponents throat
we will be like steelers of the NFC
and with that defense
wow, i like it


betts should be gone by now

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I still don't see why we made this trade. We all heard how happy the coaching staff was w/ Betts and you have a guy behind him that's serviceable in Rock. I guess you kinda feel bad for L. Betts, participating in the voluntary offseason programs, and potentially being pushed aside for someone new. I've always thought Duckett could be a starter somewhere though. There are only so many plays in a game, someone is going to be left out.

It also, is sad to hear everyone saying trade Betts now. I don't know about everyone else, but i've always trade to "side" with a guy that has been drafted by the skins and wants to be hear.

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[quote=Big C;207375]betts has to get traded now, no question[/quote]

I hate this. Bad chemistry, bad way to star the season.. just bad!

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Well this is the ugly side of the Skins, the constant revolving door. I am not crying though because it is for the better but I dont like hearing the RB's saying "Its a slap in the face" They say this game is a business and there is no other owner in the league with a better dare to do business than Snyder.

I wouldnt get rid of Betts until the preseason is over maybe even till after the Dallas game. Its hard to even know what we would want because we dont who is daring enough to take on Betts. We need to get a wiretap going out of Redskin Park.

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Didn't Gibbs use to have Byner, Riggs and ???. I can't remember that other backs name, but he reminds me a lot of Betts. Portis, Duckett, and Betts would be even a better threesome than Gibbs used to win his last superbowl. I don't think Betts is gone for sure.

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[QUOTE=redsk1;207382]I still don't see why we made this trade. We all heard how happy the coaching staff was w/ Betts and you have a guy behind him that's serviceable in Rock. I guess you kinda feel bad for L. Betts, participating in the voluntary offseason programs, and potentially being pushed aside for someone new. I've always thought Duckett could be a starter somewhere though. There are only so many plays in a game, someone is going to be left out.

It also, is sad to hear everyone saying trade Betts now. I don't know about everyone else, but i've always trade to "side" with a guy that has been drafted by the skins and wants to be hear.[/QUOTE]


I'm not convinced the team is going to trade Betts unless they feel it's not going to possible to sign him to an extention. It will be easier to sign Betts than Duckett, so if we trade Betts now, this time next year we could be right back to square one. I'm really interested in seeing how all this is going to pan out.

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[QUOTE=GoSkins!;207388]Didn't Gibbs use to have Byner, Riggs and ???. I can't remember that other backs name, but he reminds me a lot of Betts. Portis, Duckett, and Betts would be even a better threesome than Gibbs used to win his last superbowl. I don't think Betts is gone for sure.[/QUOTE]

Ricky Irvins was the third RB with that trio. But my Favorite Backs were Riggins, Washington and Wonsley. We have not had a bruising back who can run with the intensity of a T.J. Duckett in a long time.

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Those were champion season backfields, as is today currently.

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[quote=redsk1;207382]I still don't see why we made this trade. We all heard how happy the coaching staff was w/ Betts and you have a guy behind him that's serviceable in Rock. I guess you kinda feel bad for L. Betts, participating in the voluntary offseason programs, and potentially being pushed aside for someone new. I've always thought Duckett could be a starter somewhere though. There are only so many plays in a game, someone is going to be left out.

It also, is sad to hear everyone saying trade Betts now. I don't know about everyone else, but i've always trade to "side" with a guy that has been drafted by the skins and wants to be hear.[/quote]

HAVE FAITH IN GIBBS, HAVE FAITH IN GIBBS, HAVE FAITH IN GIBBS!!

I HATE PRE-SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[QUOTE=SUNRA;207390]Ricky Irvins was the third RB with that trio. But my Favorite Backs were Riggins, Washington and Wonsley. We have not had a bruising back who can run with the intensity of a T.J. Duckett in a long time.[/QUOTE]

Ricky Irvins was great. low, physical runner who always got big chunks of yards when he'd come in, always wondered why the hell he disappeared.

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Something to think about. T.J. Ducketts number for the Falcons was #45. I hope there isn't a controversy between Duckett and Mike Sellers because has earned his stripes after last year and in preseason this year. I think we trade Betts, add Sellers to the trio and put the Rock back on special teams where he is most affective.

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I keep Betts and trade Rock. Rock gets tackled too easy by one person. Also, Betts is a good kick-off returner. I say fear the HEAV-JUMBO with Sellers lead blocking for T.J..

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[QUOTE=4mrusmc;207396]I keep Betts and trade Rock. Rock gets tackled too easy by one person. Also, Betts is a good kick-off returner. I say fear the HEAV-JUMBO with Sellers lead blocking for T.J..[/QUOTE]


Who in their right mind is going to trade for Rock Cartwright? Who????

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[quote=SUNRA;207390]Ricky Irvins was the third RB with that trio. But my Favorite Backs were Riggins, Washington and Wonsley. We have not had a bruising back who can run with the intensity of a T.J. Duckett in a long time.[/quote]

Thanks, Ricky Irvins was the name I just couldn't think of. The 83-84 team was also lights out. TJ will add more than many guys realize

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just another weapon to factor in.

as if our red-zone wasn't the shiz-nit....

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This is the greatest Team ever assembled. Did I mention we still have Ethan Albright.

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[quote=SUNRA;207395]Something to think about. T.J. Ducketts number for the Falcons was #45. I hope there isn't a controversy between Duckett and Mike Sellers because has earned his stripes after last year and in preseason this year. I think we trade Betts, add Sellers to the trio and put the Rock back on special teams where he is most affective.[/quote]

Your crazy to mention Sellers. Hes in my top 5 favorites. Sellers is going to have a long fruitful career and its going to be in DC.

Archuletta- changed no problem. Numbers are such a funny thing, how they need to be identified as a certain number.

I would nip it in the bud from day one give him a new number and mold him to be CP's water boy. Portis is his daddy on this team.

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Were adding the final pieces to get this thing going. Sloppy preaseason but we'll explode in the regular season. Portis and duckett should help keep the o on the field longer and the d on the bench. This formula will work. Look at pittsburgh.

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Rock is like the Teflon Don of the Redskins. He's always on the verge of getting cut, but survives. And while I love his heart, he has had some costly fumbles in the past preseasons and regular season (Chiefs game!) that make you go hmmm

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I think now he and some other guys who play special teams like Khary C., Thrash, and Rock also who will never play their posistions can now get with Danny Smith and really set this mother off. I know El doesnt look like B Mitchell but we can resurrect that feeling of starting over in their territory or get a TD when they punt. How come BMitchell is still in the studio? I know he can get an assitant assitant coach job that they can make up for him.

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rock is important on special teams also, tho betts is a solid kick returner

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[quote=TAFKAS;207420]Rock is like the Teflon Don of the Redskins. He's always on the verge of getting cut, but survives. And while I love his heart, he has had some costly fumbles in the past preseasons and regular season (Chiefs game!) that make you go hmmm[/quote]

good point. (as much as i hate saying it)i believe that rock will be cut, because, lets be honest, no one wants rock cartwright, in this league u need 2 or 3 quality backs, but [B][U]if [/U][/B]we trade betts, than rock could be our number 3

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If we didn't have glaring holes, we get rid of Rock. Since we do, we trade Betts.

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There isnt a hole on this team. We would basically look at a backup I think would have to come at the Oline somewhere.

We also have to assume that it will take time for TJ to get acclimated to the system but if he is going to be used for short yardage anyway then he could get by. This is why I think Betts will get traded for a draft pick anywhere from now till the deadline. Only way we shop Betts now is if the players become disgruntled, a team comes to us with a good offer of OL, or another injury takes place. But until CP is better I dont think we can get rid of Betts. The run game should always be priority 1.

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[quote=SUNRA;207395]Something to think about. T.J. Ducketts number for the Falcons was #45. I hope there isn't a controversy between Duckett and Mike Sellers because has earned his stripes after last year and in preseason this year. I think we trade Betts, add Sellers to the trio and put the Rock back on special teams where he is most affective.[/quote]

Tonite at Redskins Park during TJ's interview he said he isnt even concerned with what number he gets.

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However good Betts is we have no idea if another team is interested in him for trade. We might be looking at Cartwright getting cut. Looking at it objectively this isn't terrible for the skins. Perhaps Nemo or Lumsden has shown enough to contribute to special teams the way Rock did. No one is irreplaceable. Betts might have staying power, though, with his KR abilities. You can't just give that duty to anybody.

By the way, i wrote this after drinking four pitchers of beer at Hooters for the first time in like 4 years. Tell me if I make any sense.

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[quote=724Skinsfan;207452]However good Betts is we have no idea if another team is interested in him for trade. We might be looking at Cartwright getting cut. Looking at it objectively this isn't terrible for the skins. Perhaps Nemo or Lumsden has shown enough to contribute to special teams the way Rock did. No one is irreplaceable. Betts might have staying power, though, with his KR abilities. You can't just give that duty to anybody.

By the way, i wrote this after drinking four pitchers of beer at Hooters for the first time in like 4 years. Tell me if I make any sense.[/quote]

Its a good point adding Lums Lums to Special teams. They need to be careful in this whole masterminded planning but today is a good day.

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:( :( :( :( :( :( I dont wanna See Betts Go :(:(:(:(:(

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Skins will keep Betts because he knows the system and he can play well when called upon. I hope Duckett quietly meshes with the other RBs. Winning builds team unity, and the key will be a fast start to the season, either 3-1 or 4-0.

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Rock's comment bothers me a little but we'll see how much he meant it when he plays next. He's allowed an emotional response immediately following the news but he better get on Gibbs bus.

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Prediction: The Redskins will keep all backs, evaluate Betts and TJ at the end of the season. Whoever wants the most money or least productive is allowed to walk.

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[quote=saden1;207563]Prediction: The Redskins will keep all backs, evaluate Betts and TJ at the end of the season. Whoever wants the most money or least productive is allowed to walk.[/quote]

Exactly.

Rock will be kept for teams, Duckett for goal lines, and Betts for workhorse insurance on Portis.