Thrash, Espy or Farris
 

Thrash, Espy or Farris.
Which [B]one[/B] makes the cut?

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First off, that sig is hilarious.

I say Thrash. You can practice squad Espy, maybe even Farris (he's second year right?)

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Campbell hit Thrash and Givens with some nice passes. I love Farris and hopes he makes the practice team. Espy had a horrible game. No punt return yardage and he couldn't hold on to the ball. This guy Ortega has had two big catches in two games and should be considered for the practice squad. Ortega burned his opponent to score the last TD.

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well thrash will make this team. SO i guess thrash. I put farris on the p-squad. ALL ABOARD THE JIMMY FARRIS BAND WAGON.

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woops, i voted farris meaning to vote thrash.

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[QUOTE=SUNRA;205969]Campbell hit Thrash and Givens with some nice passes. I love Farris and hopes he makes the practice team. Espy had a horrible game. No punt return yardage and he couldn't hold on to the ball. This guy Ortega has had two big catches in two games and should be considered for the practice squad. Ortega burned his opponent to score the last TD.[/QUOTE]

I'm guessing you meant Patten, not Givens. I mean Campbell has a cannon but I don't think he's reaching Tennesee

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[quote=SUNRA;205969]Campbell hit Thrash and Givens with some nice passes. I love Farris and hopes he makes the practice team. Espy had a horrible game. No punt return yardage and he couldn't hold on to the ball. This guy Ortega has had two big catches in two games and should be considered for the practice squad. Ortega burned his opponent to score the last TD.[/quote]

I think sunra definately means Patten and about Buck Ortega.......Well the defender for the Jets fell down but overall it was a great play. Ortega is a Miami guy so i'm betting he makes the team as the 3rd TE and Johnson goes bye bye since he has injury liability(shame since he's a manbeast) Ortega has shown some some flashes but i don't know enough about his blocking to judge on that aspect of his play. Thrash stays, Espy to P.SQ, and Farris to the couch at home b/c he is a 4th year player

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thrash but i like espy over farris i think

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no chance thrash is cut. special teams ace and extremely hard worker, a joe gibbs guy.

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It's looking pretty clear that everyone agrees that our WRs will be:
Moss
LLoyd
Randel el
Patton
Thrash

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[quote=JankySpanky80;205979]I think sunra definately means Patten and about Buck Ortega.......Well the defender for the Jets fell down but overall it was a great play. Ortega is a Miami guy so i'm betting he makes the team as the 3rd TE and Johnson goes bye bye since he has injury liability(shame since he's a manbeast) Ortega has shown some some flashes but i don't know enough about his blocking to judge on that aspect of his play. Thrash stays, Espy to P.SQ, and Farris to the couch at home b/c he is a 4th year player[/quote]

Robert Johnson's injury really sucks. He is fundamentally sound blocking and is a giant too. Ortega isnt quite there yet he has made strides but he is not all he can be and isnt worthy yet he will benefit from Johnson's knee and probably be forced to land a spot.

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[quote=EEich;205987]It's looking pretty clear that everyone agrees that our WRs will be:
Moss
LLoyd
Randel el
Patton
Thrash[/quote]

I know Patten will make the team but he played like crap last night. David (buttafingas) Patten

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Those are 5 that will make it, but we may keep 6.

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i take thrash over patten but i take them both over farris and espy. Farris is the man. He does well and catches the ball when it hits his hands(yes it went through his hands last week). He looked good from my stand point yesterday and espy looked like sheeeeeeet. Farris has been playing on special teams and did better than espy did. Farris isn't as fast as espy though which is obviously important at this position. JIMMY JIMMY JIMMMY>

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I like Jimmy too......but didn't he get a shot last season after having a quite impressive pre season. What did he do for us when we called upon him in the season when we had no recievers? I'm still trying to figure it out so someone let me know.

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[quote=GTripp0012;205992]Those are 5 that will make it, but we may keep 6.[/quote]

Not likely if history repeats. Gibbs kept 5 the last two years.

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thrash is the total package of a team player. he is a reliable possesion reciever willing to go over the middle and is an excellent ST player. espy makes the practice squad and Farris is the odd man out probably.

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Thrash is lucky that he is insured with his special teams play of which I noticed even in camp that Farris is practicing and playing to fit that role.
Farris I believe would be a nice role like thrash but he will be a victim of our depth b/c he cant be put on the practice squad.
Espy, I lost all respect for last night. Hes out for sure to Practice Squad

What is with Patten??? Why is he holding back the effort??? He could have laid out to get a couple of balls last nite. WE have him signed till the end of the season right???

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I realize I'm in the minority here, but I really think Patten is on his way out.

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Easy decision here, keep the vet.

Thrash.

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Farris did well last year but wasn't clutch in the playoffs. I go with thrash

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Has anyone fallen from grace faster than Espy since just Saturday afternoon?

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Not that i know of. He had a horrible outing last night. I think he'll go to the practice squad, Thrash makes the team.

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the line backer that was guarding him fell down on that play!

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You guys are being a little hard on Espy, considering that Patten dropped 3 catchable balls and pulled up hard on one that he could have had, I only saw Espy drop one and it was a classic "hit him right in the numbers and bounced off" rookie thing.

He ran HARD on every return, and played well last game, I'm surprised how quickly everyone's ready to write the kid off..

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dgack-

I think it's mostly a function of necessity. Espy knows he is on the bubble, he absolutely needed a big game, and he dropped some passes.

It disturbs me that Patten can't catch the ball, but he's a veteran and Joe Gibbs prefers a veteran guy. He's also proven that he can play on the NFL level; Espy has not.

Seriously though, I'm extremely pleased with our depth at WR regardless of what happens. Patten and Thrash could both be #3 on some teams. I think the Skins are one of the strongest receiving teams in the nation.

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pleasee we should sign espy eventhough he has a horrible game
sign him as a kr/pr

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[QUOTE=Skin Patrol;206041]dgack-

I think it's mostly a function of necessity. Espy knows he is on the bubble, he absolutely needed a big game, and he dropped some passes.

It disturbs me that Patten can't catch the ball, but he's a veteran and Joe Gibbs prefers a veteran guy. He's also proven that he can play on the NFL level; Espy has not.

Seriously though, I'm extremely pleased with our depth at WR regardless of what happens. Patten and Thrash could both be #3 on some teams. I think the Skins are one of the strongest receiving teams in the nation.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I hear what you're saying, I guess I think of it almost in the opposite: a guy running full bore on kickoff returns who nervously botches a catch or two, versus a fairly high profile veteran who hasn't produced anything, really, since he arrived, and he's kind of dogging it out there, short-arming, pulling up, and flat-out dropping 'em.

I obviously agree with you that Patten has more talent out of the box right now, because we know very little about Espy. But I'm much more interested a young dude with fire who's a little raw than an experienced but (IMO) pretty lackluster old dude, personally. At least Espy can still improve. I really don't expect to see new heights of production out of Patten; if anything it seems like he's sulking over the signings of Randle-El and Lloyd.

Funny, Patrick and Riggins even mentioned last night that Gibbs said something to the effect of, we aren't concerned about the health of of the O-Line because they could just trade Patten for a backup any time they needed to. It's almost like he's just there for trade currency.

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I'm agreeing with you on much of that. It's disappointing the way Patten has been playing, particularly because of all the noise we've heard about how Patten isn't concerned with the WR situation and "just wants the opportunity to play". It hasn't looked that way so far.

And I'm also open to your point about young blood. We're talking about a 5th receiver spot. This isn't a guy we will be using on offense that often, so having a potential upside, even one that isn't readily apparent, goes a big way.

The way I look at it is this: if Moss, ARE, or Lloyd get injured, who do I want coming in on 3 receiver sets? Is it Espy, or is it Patten? I want Patten. I think he's proven himself as a reliable 3rd receiver in this league, and I just don't know about Espy. I'll take the sure bet any day.

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The practice squad is perfect for a guy like Espy. You let him practice with the team all season, in the spring you send him to NFL Europe. By next summer he's ready to compete for a more prominent position with the team.

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Totally agree with that. I think there's a possibility that someone else picks up Espy, especially after the way he played last week.

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I voted Thrash because of what he brings to ST play. I would have voted Espy but he needs to up the level of ST play. Also Thrash is the proven vet out of these three... I hope that we put Espy on the PS for next year, I think that he has tremendous talent, just needs time. Rememeber WR is a very tough position to learn in the NFL...

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[QUOTE=RiggoRules;206029]I realize I'm in the minority here, but I really think Patten is on his way out.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you. I think espy will be on the practice squad and farris will make the roster.

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I say cut Patton keep thrash and Espy.

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Thrash stays. If nothing else, the effort after the catch last night. He frequently has been the open receiver when the QB is under pressure (i.e. he knows when and how to come back) and gets the first-down yardage. Never makes mistakes.

Patten: I don't know what's happening. Maybe making sure he doesn't get injured in the preseason?

6 vs. 5 WRs on the roster. Gibbs usually goes with 5, but look what happened last year. He might try 6 instead. (And what does Saunders do?)

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i was ready to hand over the reigns to espy but after saturday, he will be flipping burgers along side schneed this season:)

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oh yeah thats right, undrafted rookies cant have a bad outting, I mean after all Jimmy Farris did so well last season when he was called upon to play games that count...

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Thrash

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Espy. Patten gets the ax. He didn't make an effort to catch one pass by Campbell and dropped another (yes, Espy dropped two also). You'd think a veteran WR would want to boost the confidence of a young QB and make plays. However, Espy would benefit from being on the PS.

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Espy looks promising and would say practice squad for him for sure.