Best of what's left
 

these are guys that have fallen a bit and are still available at the start of day two. if you don't see a position, then no one of note is left that's rated above the 4th round.

RB: leon washington (3)
FB: lawrence vickers (3-4)
TE: tim day (3-4)
WR: demetrius williams (2)
... todd watkins (2-3)
... devin aromashodu (2-3)
... jason avant (3)
... mike hass (3)
OG: max jean gilles (2)
... fred matua (3)
OT: ryan o'callaghan (2-3)
... guy whimper (3)
... jonathan scott (3-4)

DE: victor adeyanju (2-3)
... ray edwards (3)
... stanley mcclover (3)
... parys haralson (3)
DT: gabe watson (2)
... orien harris (2-3)
CB: alan zemaitis (2)
... dee webb (2-3)
... marcus maxey (3-4)
FS: Ko simpson (2)
... pat watkins (2-3)
... antoine bethea (3-4)
... greg blue (3-4)
SS: darnell bing (1-2)
... calvin lowry (3-4)


best talent is at DT, S, and OG if you need a starter. each has 2 starters left.

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Good stuff. Thanks for all the good stuff, That Guy.

The best remaining for day two
 

I can't believe some of these guys got through:

1. Gabe Watson-He has effort issues, but he's so good that a team would have been perfectly justified spending a late 1st on him.

2. Max Jean-Gilles-Big guard can play 4 positions on the Oline. Should have gone in the top half of round 2.

3. Orien Harris-Run Stuffing DT could have easily gone to a team like the Giants in the 2nd...but they were too busy taking players they didn't need.

4. Darnell Bing-Not a huge Bing fan, but it goes to show that a lot of 2nd tier safeties got taken before some of the big guys.

5. Ko Simpson-Another guy with range who should have gone in the middle of round two. Safety prospects look promising for round 5 if we go there.

Best of the rest:

6. Jonathon Scott, OT, Texas
7. Mark Anderson, 3-4 OLB, Oklahoma
8. Greg Eslinger, C, Minnesota
9. Ray Edwards, DE, Purdue
10. Pat Watkins, S, Florida State
11. Kai Parham, ILB, Virginia
12. Rod Wright, DT, Texas
13. Reggie McNeal, QB, Texas A&M
14. Demetrius Williams, WR, Oregon
15. Charles Gordon, CB, Kansas
16. Calvin Lowry, S, Penn State
17. Babatunde Oshiwindu, DT, Stanford
18. Fred Matua, OG, USC
19. Rob Sims, OG, Ohio State
20. Kevin Boothe, OG, Cornell
21. Ryan O'Callaghan, OT, California
22. Leon Washington, RB, Florida State
23. Anwar Phillips, CB, Penn State
24. Andre Hall, RB, South Florida
25. Mike Hass, WR, Oregon State

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[quote=70Chip]Good stuff. Thanks for all the good stuff, That Guy.[/quote]


I AGREE.....GOOD STUFF.....MAKES IT FUN TO SEE WHO WE MIGHT CHOOSE, ANY THOUGHTS ON REGGIE O'NEAL OUT OF A&M.....HE CAN BE VERSITLE

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if we can trade our 5th and 6th round pick and a 5th next year or somethign to get a 4th this year and get Orien Harris we will get a steal this late in the draft. Him with C griff and our new end will make our line a lot better

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The two biggest shocks to me are Demetrius Williams and Darnell Bing still being on the board. I know that Bing has a knock for intelligence, but Williams should have gone ahead of guys like Hagan and Brandon Williams. Then again, I was surprised to see Stovall go so late.

Other big shocks:

LenDale White went so low.
Ashton Youboty lasted into the third round (he was projected as a 1st rounder on a lot of boards)
Matt Leinart was still on the board at #10.
Washington traded UP to get McIntosh, who I believe would have still been there at #53.

Just goes to show you that draft day is far from a science.

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I like Greg Blue out of Georgia but we have already signed Archiletta.

That Guy: I thought Gilles was a blue chipper. Why did he fall out?

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gabe watson, orien harris, and max jean gilles would be excellent picks i think for us if we could somehow get into the 4th round...

day 2 redskins pick ups
 

who do you want to see here. If you were the gm who would you get?

As for me my list of potential guys are:

Elvis Dumervil DE/ LB Louisville
Brad Butler Tackle Virginia
Gerrick McPhearson/ CB Maryland
Alan Zemaitis cb/penn state
Demetrius Williams wr oregon
Jason Pociask TE Wisconsin
Martin Nance WR Miami (OH)

These are just some names of the guys I like still out there and if they come up during our pick I hope we give them a glance

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I would like to see us give long hard looks at Bing and Simpson in the early 4th (yes, that would require trading up).

I would also like to see us take Matt Bernstein in the 6th round. He's a massive guard-like fullback who would be a great lead-blocker on short-yardage and goal-line situations. Think a young Mike Sellers.

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u started the thread the same time i started mine thatguy I guess someone will just have to merge them

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so what picks do we have left in this draft? I know next year we still have a 1st, 3rd, fourth, 6th, and 7th.

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[quote=Sociofan]The two biggest shocks to me are Demetrius Williams and Darnell Bing still being on the board. I know that Bing has a knock for intelligence, but Williams should have gone ahead of guys like Hagan and Brandon Williams. Then again, I was surprised to see Stovall go so late.

Other big shocks:

LenDale White went so low.
Ashton Youboty lasted into the third round (he was projected as a 1st rounder on a lot of boards)
Matt Leinart was still on the board at #10.
Washington traded UP to get McIntosh, who I believe would have still been there at #53.

Just goes to show you that draft day is far from a science.[/quote]

youboty was over concerns he's technique is bad and he tends to get beat deep peeking into the backfield too long... he's also small for run support (which is like the A1 concern for GW when he picks corners).

Lendale was the not running, not working out, and bad interviews.

The others are harder to explain (leinhart was just a talent that couldn't find someone with a need at QB. matt millen had a good case, but detriot fans may have shot him for it. AZ is a nice warm (no snow) place without the wind of other places, which is a good fit).

Re: day 2 redskins pick ups
 

Ko Simpson or Darnell Bing (4th - trade up)
Matt Berstein (6th)

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[quote=mooby]so what picks do we have left in this draft? I know next year we still have a 1st, 3rd, fourth, 6th, and 7th.[/quote]

5th - #21
6th - #4, #27
7th - #22, #41

next year we have 1, 3, 5, 6, 7 (4th for lloyd, 2nd for mcintosh)

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QB Marcus Vick?

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[quote=70Chip]I like Greg Blue out of Georgia but we have already signed Archiletta.

That Guy: I thought Gilles was a blue chipper. Why did he fall out?[/quote]

weight/motor/speed issues (they're all related). he has to work hard to stay under 360lbs, he only runs a 5.5, and he's worthless on the second level, cause he can wear out easily. for a team like the colts or AZ he'd be perfect.

ray brown had the exact same issues gilles has, but he was fine for us, so those negatives shouldn't be considered a death-knell. This guy just isn't going to be pulling like randy thomas.

fred matui is the best "athletic" OG left, and he's also polished. spencer gives you the a best of both, but he's a bit of a project, since he only played OL two years, and OG for one. (two years at DT previous to that).

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[quote=Darrell_Green_28]QB Marcus Vick?[/quote]

nah, he might be a late 5th, 6th or even undrafted. this list is for thoe projected in the first day that didn't hear their name called.

for guys left rated lower, gerrick mcphearson (CB), dion byrum (CB), jahri evans (OT), will montgomery (OT), etc etc etc... too many still, but we have another thread on that already.

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[quote=diehardskin2982]who do you want to see here. If you were the gm who would you get?

As for me my list of potential guys are:

Elvis Dumervil DE/ LB Louisville
Brad Butler Tackle Virginia
Gerrick McPhearson/ CB Maryland
Alan Zemaitis cb/penn state
Demetrius Williams wr oregon
Jason Pociask TE Wisconsin
Martin Nance WR Miami (OH)

These are just some names of the guys I like still out there and if they come up during our pick I hope we give them a glance[/quote]

Butler is pretty good, but he really pulled a dirty move agaisnt BC this year

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I would like us to take a look at Orien Harris or Elvis Dumervil tomorrow. The last i heard of Dumervil some were projecting him to be a second round pick. What happened?

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I don;t like our trade up to get ROcky, but alot of talent left. Jahri Evans should be one of our picks in the late rounds

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[quote=Darrell_Green_28]QB Marcus Vick?[/quote]

Interesting to see that character and criminal records seem to be much more in play this year. Look at how Justice and some others have fallen way down in the draft. I applaud the NFL and GMs for finally getting it. Personally, I'm hoping that Marcus goes undrafted. His "thug" behavior should cost him a LOT of money. If he's talented and can turn himself around in the NFL, perhaps he'll make some money down the line, but the message has to be sent. These guys were a risk in college and an even bigger and more expensive risk in the pros.

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If Harris falls, we should take him, but if not, the pick should be Oline or Safety.

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i think we should go for
Gerrick McPhearson/ CB Maryland
but will we??? and will he be there when we pick?

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come on danny boy, make the call and get Harris!!

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the washington redskins take marcus vick with there 5th round pick

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[QUOTE=jtm74]the washington redskins take marcus vick with there 5th round pick[/QUOTE]

Why would we?

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[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES]come on danny boy, make the call and get Harris!![/QUOTE]

steelers got a steal with harris with the last pick in the 4th round...THey will probably use him as an end though.

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[quote=SKINSnCANES]steelers got a steal with harris with the last pick in the 4th round...THey will probably use him as an end though.[/quote]In thier 3-4, yes.

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I would be happy with anyof these guys.....

Fred Matua OG USC
Montavious Stanley DT Louisvile
Jesse Mahelona DT Tennesssee
T.J. Williams TE NC State
Kevin Boothe OG/OT Cornell
Anwar Phillips CB PSU
DeMario Winter CB UGA

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we are on the clock who will it be

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its DT Anthony Montgomery from Minn

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who is this guy.. he doesnt rate on the draft board on nfl.com .. but still i trust Gibbs and Co.

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[QUOTE=Darrell_Green_28]who is this guy.. he doesnt rate on the draft board on nfl.com .. but still i trust Gibbs and Co.[/QUOTE]

no offenes my gibbs, but in you I dont trust in any round past 3. This guy looks like a Big NT. Hopefully Williams saw somethign he liked and could groom.

Clearly I wanted us to get Maxey, and groom his physical tools into our nickel corner. But I agree DT was a bigger need. Im just really pissed they didnt trade up and get Orien Harris, a guy that was there late and should have gone early. As opposed to a guy that isnt even rated on many sites...

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[url]http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/dt/anthonymontgomery.html[/url]

33 ranked DT in this draft.....not a fan of this pick at all
With Stanley and Mahelona still on the board if we were looking for a DT I don't get why we took a guy we could have probly got in the 7th. With Thomas coming off an injury and not alot of depth at line I would have loved to see us get Matua. I really hope he is there with our 6th rounder.

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[quote=PSUskinsfan11][URL="http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/dt/anthonymontgomery.html"]http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/dt/anthonymontgomery.html[/URL]

33 ranked DT in this draft.....not a fan of this pick at all
With Stanley and Mahelona still on the board if we were looking for a DT I don't get why we took a guy we could have probly got in the 7th. With Thomas coming off an injury and not alot of depth at line I would have loved to see us get Matua. I really hope he is there with our 6th rounder.[/quote]I said it too Babatude Oshinowho and Rodrique Wright are still out there. That's why I say there are reasons that those so-called 'stud' picks (ie Lendale White) fall. Teams seem to be looking for something else.

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he was the only DT we brought in... i'm surprised we didn't look at wright or the guy with the long name... maybe they did, seems a bit weird though :/