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Beside loving the Skins I am a huge Wizards fan, and just watched Game 3, which we lost by ONE POINT! On a side note, LeBron totally walked on his last game winnng point, but of course the refs wont call on "king james". Anyways my original point, is that Kwame is doing quite well in the playoffs, and towards the end of the season for the Lakers. Although he was terrible here, I am almost proud of him that he is doing well...lol. He is dominating the Suns right now, passing, scoring, and there doesnt seem to be a problem with his desire either. This is the Kwame we hoped for when we drafted him, and now it shows. At one point the Wiz had both Rasheed and Ben Wallace, Webber, Howard, Kwame, seems like whenver they leave DC, they become great.

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[quote=hooskins]Beside loving the Skins I am a huge Wizards fan, and just watched Game 3, which we lost by ONE POINT! On a side note, LeBron totally walked on his last game winnng point, but of course the refs wont call on "king james". Anyways my original point, is that Kwame is doing quite well in the playoffs, and towards the end of the season for the Lakers. Although he was terrible here, I am almost proud of him that he is doing well...lol. He is dominating the Suns right now, passing, scoring, and there doesnt seem to be a problem with his desire either. This is the Kwame we hoped for when we drafted him, and now it shows. At one point the Wiz had both Rasheed and Ben Wallace, Webber, Howard, Kwame, seems like whenver they leave DC, they become great.[/quote]

It is either our coaching, or our philosophy that holds these guys back.

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calling kwame great is vast hyperbole. he looks okay, which is better than "absolutely god-awful" but that's about it.

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[QUOTE=angryssg]It is either our coaching, or our philosophy that holds these guys back.[/QUOTE]

I don't think it was our coaching that made kwame ditch us during the playoffs last year. I don't think it was our philosophy that made kwame slack off in practice to where he never lived up to potential. Kwame himself threatened to punch our best player in decades (Gilbert) during last year's run...

I think maybe it had something to do with immaturity and now he's growing up in LA.

Geez, how long has Les Boulez been terrible? We're miles ahead of where we used to be- Arenas is a top 10 player and he's still young. Caron is signed to a long extension and he hasn't hit his prime either. Wes Unseld was a terrible GM- Grunfeld and EJ are turning things around. Rome wasn't built in a day folks...

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[quote=itvnetop]I don't think it was our coaching that made kwame ditch us during the playoffs last year. I don't think it was our philosophy that made kwame slack off in practice to where he never lived up to potential. Kwame himself threatened to punch our best player in decades (Gilbert) during last year's run...

I think maybe it had something to do with immaturity and now he's growing up in LA.

Geez, how long has Les Boulez been terrible? We're miles ahead of where we used to be- Arenas is a top 10 player and he's still young. Caron is signed to a long extension and he hasn't hit his prime either. Wes Unseld was a terrible GM- Grunfeld and EJ are turning things around. Rome wasn't built in a day folks...[/quote]

Rome wasn't, but man sure the hell was. Read the Bible, very informative. Some of those men just do not have the talent of those forementioned.

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i think it's too early to say whether kwame is going to be a beast in L.A. Give him a full season where he plays great and then i'll say maybe he's better than he was here. He showed flashes while he was here, but it never materalized. On a side note, if only Gilbert's 3 had gone in, we'd be celebrating right now with a 2-1 series lead. Oh well, we can still win it. Provided we win the next game that is.

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[QUOTE=angryssg]Rome wasn't, but man sure the hell was. Read the Bible, very informative. Some of those men just do not have the talent of those forementioned.[/QUOTE]

You have to clarify the Bible reference for me, i'm not sure what that has to do with a discussion like this...

also, not sure if you mean caron and gil not having the talent- those two are for real and i'll gladly take a beast like caron over an underperforming kwame 7 days a week.

we need to get some major help on the inside, but doesn' t everybody? our team being competitive in the playoffs is good enough for me right now. Lottery wasn't that long ago.

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I almost refuse to take part in this thread because Kwame is such a bitch ass piece of crap whiny pathetic bum. He did nothing but cry during his entire career in Washington. What a waste of human space. All the physical talent in the world with ZERO heart or desire. His mom should have swallowed and saved us all a lot of trouble.

Phew. OK. There, Ive said my piece.

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[quote=amorentz] His mom should have swallowed and saved us all a lot of trouble.

Phew. OK. There, Ive said my piece.[/quote]

HAHHA!!!! Now that was funny. Yeah I see where you are coming from, and I am def frustrated, but for some odd reason I am happy he is doing well there, and I dont know why. Maybe I am happy bc my belief that a 7ft tall and built first pick should be able to do well in the NBA, was validated.

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kwame is doing great?man thats a hell of reach.he is doing better than when he was at washington but,he has a long way to go.on lebron walking on the last shot,if you ever watched nba basketball you know better

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the only reason i'm glad he's doin alright is bc MJ gave him soo much shit. If the greatest player in the game calls you shit that's gotta hurt i dun care how big he is.

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[quote]Rome wasn't, but man sure the hell was. Read the Bible, very informative. Some of those men just do not have the talent of those forementioned.[/quote]
That's odd. Scientific evidence says otherwise. If you want to have religious discussions, there's plenty of room in the parking lot for that, but can we abstain for turning things such as NBA threads into some sort of religious thread. You have your opinion and I have mine. Lets keep NBA to NBA, and religion to religion.

As far as Kwame, we shouldn't be suprised. There are lots of players who really do some great things once they leave DC.

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[quote=dmek25]\on lebron walking on the last shot,if you ever watched nba basketball you know better[/quote]

Um actually I DO watch NBA basketball, and I have been for the last 5 years, so I do actually know what I am talking about. He took more than 2.5 steps, and that is a walk buddy. The NBA is loose on that calls sometimes, and also carrying, people do it all the time now. My point is he STILL DEF walked. And if you still think I do not know what am I talking bout, then you should know, all the guys that did the pregame show on espn for late game that follwed that night(Stephen A, Greg Antony, Pippen, etc.) all mentioned that it was a walk when they went over the highlights to the Wiz game, and I was very happy when I heard that my views were not my own. I also checked out some Wizard and NBA forums, many people raised that similar concern that I did, and these guys are people who have followed the league for 15-20 years. So, in fact, I DO know better.

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And it has been posted on several sports sites too, ESPN, SI, etc, I could bring it up for you if you would like, but my point is that was a travel, and if not, a very very questionalbe call. Like some people think, I think James got a favorable call, bc he is James.

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I am a Laker fan living here in LA and Kwame has definitely improved as the season progressed. He is in an offense he seems to understand, his defense has been very good and he is hitting the offensive glass hard. It all boils down to one thing alone: Phil Jackson. Best coach ever. Period. He has gotten a rag tag group of guys, Odom, Kobe, Luke, Smush Parker and Kwame to play like a team and is 2-1 up on a far superior Suns team. I'm not saying the Lakers will win this series, but to be up 2-1 is something NO ONE expected. I hope Kwame continues to grow and prove his detractors wrong.

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anyone have a clip of lebron's game winning shot in game three? I'd like to see it before i make a judgement.

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hooskins simmer down.my point on that play is 1. he did walk but it never/rarely is called and 2. lebron is one of the leagues poster children and this league more so than any other does everything it can to PROTECT them.no ref in that league makes that call

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[QUOTE=hooskins]Um actually I DO watch NBA basketball, and I have been for the last 5 years, so I do actually know what I am talking about. He took more than 2.5 steps, and that is a walk buddy. The NBA is loose on that calls sometimes, and also carrying, people do it all the time now. My point is he STILL DEF walked. And if you still think I do not know what am I talking bout, then you should know, all the guys that did the pregame show on espn for late game that follwed that night(Stephen A, Greg Antony, Pippen, etc.) all mentioned that it was a walk when they went over the highlights to the Wiz game, and I was very happy when I heard that my views were not my own. I also checked out some Wizard and NBA forums, many people raised that similar concern that I did, and these guys are people who have followed the league for 15-20 years. So, in fact, I DO know better.[/QUOTE]

I think he was saying that they never call traveling anymore especially on golden child King Lebron. Not only was it a walk but I could have sworn his feet also came down before he got the shot away.

as far as Kwame goes, it's good to see him doing decently for the following reasons: a.) I'm a lakers fan, b.) it's nice to see a guy who came into the league as a kid have absolutely too much pressure and too many expectations put upon his shoulders, and c.) I like to think of it also as Kwame trying to stick it to Jordan.

oh and if the race between Kobe and Nash for the MVP is as close as a lot of the media has been making it out to be, if the Lakers win the series in which they r now up 3-1, does anyone else think that should lean it a bit in Kobe's favor? I understand since it's Kobe a lot of people will instantly say no, but I wanted to see if anyone has an opinion on that.

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it should be Kobe's regaurdless of the outcome of the series. take kobe away from that team and there lucky to win 20 games.

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it looked like the ball was knocked loose so he woulda been able to take extra step...i don't envy being an NBA ref that shit is hard with so many fouls so much to watch so quick i don't even try to argue because they don't have instant replay. i kno i wouldn't have been able to see it w/o IR.

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[QUOTE=skin4Life28]it should be Kobe's regaurdless of the outcome of the series. take kobe away from that team and there lucky to win 20 games.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Kobe should be the MVP for sure. Nash is great. But he dosn't carry a the team like Kobe.
ps.Did you guys see the Lakers vs. Suns game yesterday? That was one of the best games I have seen in a long long time.

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[QUOTE=Riggo44]I agree. Kobe should be the MVP for sure. Nash is great. But he dosn't carry a the team like Kobe.
ps.Did you guys see the Lakers vs. Suns game yesterday? That was one of the best games I have seen in a long long time.[/QUOTE]

that was an incredible ending. luckily they've reshown it quite a few times cuz I didn't plan for overtime and my vcr stopped recording it right before ot while I was at work.

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru]I think he was saying that they never call traveling anymore especially on golden child King Lebron. Not only was it a walk but I could have sworn his feet also came down before he got the shot away.

.[/quote]i dont watch much basketball but i happened to catch the 4th quarter of the game last night. is it just me or does queen james argue just about every call that goes against him or every call that he doesnt get. I hate crybaby bitches. he was in the refs ear for about 5 min. after a charging call that went against him.just shut up and play.

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[quote=gibbsisgod]i dont watch much basketball but i happened to catch the 4th quarter of the game last night. is it just me or does queen james argue just about every call that goes against him or every call that he doesnt get. I hate crybaby bitches. he was in the refs ear for about 5 min. after a charging call that went against him.just shut up and play.[/quote]

every NBA player does it.

they do it so the refs will watch it closer the next time.

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[QUOTE=gibbsisgod]i dont watch much basketball but i happened to catch the 4th quarter of the game last night. is it just me or does queen james argue just about every call that goes against him or every call that he doesnt get. I hate crybaby bitches. he was in the refs ear for about 5 min. after a charging call that went against him.just shut up and play.[/QUOTE]

very rarely do the players not complain, sometimes even as far as throwing hissy-fits even on the blantly obvious calls like that one where james elbowed that wizards player square in the jaw.

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I wish I could've posted this two years ago....

DUH! Kwame is a natural center. He is very deliberate around the basket, competitive one on one, and prefers to play with his back to the bucket. He is not cut out for the high post / motion / Princeton Offense EJ runs.

The triangle, on the other hand, is tailor made for Kwame at Center. Own up to it people, Kwame was never a bad player in Washington, but he was almost always bad in Eddie Jordan's system, and was never really given the opportunity under Doug Collins to become a scorer.

Before the berage of insults and objections come, lemme just say that Kwame's lack of dedication - missing practice - oversleeping, etc. was inexcusable, and I'm loving Caron Butler.

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kwame always stunk here. he was here BEFORE EJ and still sucked, and he's not great now, just slightly less bad. i would have traded him for some frito's, getting an actual player (like butler) is amazing.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]kwame always stunk here. he was here BEFORE EJ and still sucked, and he's not great now, just slightly less bad. i would have traded him for some frito's, getting an actual player (like butler) is amazing.[/QUOTE]

I don't know why butler didn't play like he is now when he was with the lakers last year and it's not for lack of shots cuz he averaged 13 shots a game last year to this years 14.5 but there were long stretches when he just dissapeared and normally they were when Kobe was out.

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Not to go off topic here, but how about them Kings. Say what you will about Ron Artest but that team has been decidely better since he arrived. Wonder what they could have done with a full year of him

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru]I don't know why butler didn't play like he is now when he was with the lakers last year and it's not for lack of shots cuz he averaged 13 shots a game last year to this years 14.5 but there were long stretches when he just dissapeared and normally they were when Kobe was out.[/quote]

arenas works a bit like kobe in that he helps caron stay open more (since gil is such a threat)... maybe the light switch went off, i don't know. I'm not a hardcore NBA fan so i don't watch a lot of non-wizard games.

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[QUOTE=skinsfanthru&thru]I don't know why butler didn't play like he is now when he was with the lakers last year and it's not for lack of shots cuz he averaged 13 shots a game last year to this years 14.5 but there were long stretches when he just dissapeared and normally they were when Kobe was out.[/QUOTE]

actually, caron had his best numbers during the latter part of the season when kobe was injured... think most good players have an adjustment period playing with kobe. especially during last season, when kobe was playing like selfish kobe. i hate kobe bryant, but he's actually playing team ball during the playoffs. i hope the clippers take them down- i really like brand.

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Kwame has finally arrived as a pro [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2006/news/story?id=2430850"]athlete[/URL] It's all hype until you get that first sexual assault charge

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[quote=TAFKAS]Kwame has finally arrived as a pro [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2006/news/story?id=2430850"]athlete[/URL] It's all hype until you get that first sexual assault charge[/quote]

Hopefully he'll mature a bit now. Maybe Kobe will give him pointers on how to win the case.

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nice. regardless of how well kwame does, i'll take caron instead.

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[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2006/news/story?id=2430850[/url]

perhaps he's trying to take after Kobe a little too much?

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[quote=BDBohnzie][URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2006/news/story?id=2430850"]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2006/news/story?id=2430850[/URL]

perhaps he's trying to take after Kobe a little too much?[/quote]

DUPE DUPE DUPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:)

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FUCk! I can't believe the wizards lost. motherf.a.d fa

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Screw Labron

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two losses by a combined 2 points :(

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this is a damn good series... best of the first round.

to come back down 7 in regulation, i can't be mad at the mental mistakes in OT. Lebron is freakin good, but so is our Gilbert.