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If you look at our schedule right now 3-14 is an absolute possibility. The worst team we play for the rest of the year just beat us with their backup quarterback and without their stud tackle. Both of whom will be back next time. 3-14 gets us a top 4 pick and is an absolute selling point for Harbaugh. That is sad and exciting all in one.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1349695]If he doesn't figure it out re: his internal clock then he'll end up becoming a journeyman. He'll stick around because he has the tools, but he's gotta work on his pocket presence.[/quote]

Exactly this was my pony earlier in the week , there literally has been zero improvement this year on his weakness; AGAIN a weakness that has plagued him since college

No coach is fixing it at this point , it’s on Sam

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Bottom five Oline in the game. Tough to QB behind a shit Oline and a non existent running game.

Sam is getting no help.

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Yeah, he looks to me to be trying too hard, looking for the big play etc. instead of learning the quick read, dump it off if you have to for no minimal gain, throw it away if nobody is open. Take what's there for the taking and if that's nothing, get nothing rather than a loss.

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Sam was a fifth round pick and we got rid of Taylor Heinekie. No harm no foul. He has issues, but all things considered he is the least of what is wrong with this team.

Jahan Dotson was a wasted pick. He literally cannot get open and when he does he drops the ball. That is more of a problem than our fifth round selection at quarterback. Our oline is a bigger problem. Our lb’s are a bigger problem. We will be in position to draft a quarterback in the top 10 no doubt. Probably top 5 because we are not going to be favored in another game. No more Fakcons. No more Broncos or Cardinals. All solid teams from here on out.

This off season and all its firings simply cannot come fast enough.

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[quote=punch it in;1349705]Sam was a fifth round pick and we got rid of Taylor Heinekie. No harm no foul. He has issues, but all things considered he is the least of what is wrong with this team.

Jahan Dotson was a wasted pick. He literally cannot get open and when he does he drops the ball. That is more of a problem than our fifth round selection at quarterback. Our oline is a bigger problem. Our lb’s are a bigger problem. We will be in position to draft a quarterback in the top 10 no doubt. Probably top 5 because we are not going to be favored in another game. No more Fakcons. No more Broncos or Cardinals. All solid teams from here on out.

This off season and all its firings simply cannot come fast enough.[/quote]

Regardless what Sam does this year you keep him at the worst he is great back up

If we have opportunity to upgrade QB ( draft / trade / FA) I would not turn that opportunity away at this point with Sam’s current play


Sam has not checked the WE ARE ALL SET AT QB1 box yet

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Is there another team in the league whose last two first round picks are doing less for their team than ours?

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1349706]Regardless what Sam does this year you keep him at the worst he is great back up

If we have opportunity to upgrade QB ( draft / trade / FA) I would not turn that opportunity away at this point with Sam’s current play


Sam has not checked the WE ARE ALL SET AT QB1 box yet[/QUOTE]


No but it is game 8. 7 as a starter. Meanwhile we have guys and coaches that have been here years and aren’t checking their own boxes. Including number 1’s and 2’s and trades. If Sam doesn’t work out we lose a fifth round pick. Big deal. Im much more concerned about several other aspects of our team. -

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To all the Howell doubters/haters, who would you rather have from this list:

Zach Wilson
Mac Jones
Jimmy G
Russell Wilson
Deshaun Watson
Kenny Pickett
Richardson/Minshew
Tannehill
Daniel Jones
Dak Prescott
Geno Smith
Kyler Murray
Jordan Love
Justin Fields
Desmond Ridder
Baker Mayfield
Derek Carr
Bryce Young

I'd stick with Howell and pass on all of them.

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Nah. Gimme Minshew. Kids got grit in spades

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1349712]To all the Howell doubters/haters, who would you rather have from this list:

Zach Wilson
Mac Jones
Jimmy G
Russell Wilson
Deshaun Watson
Kenny Pickett
Richardson/Minshew
Tannehill
Daniel Jones
Dak Prescott
Geno Smith
Kyler Murray
Jordan Love
Justin Fields
Desmond Ridder
Baker Mayfield
Derek Carr
Bryce Young

I'd stick with Howell and pass on all of them.[/quote]

In no order:

Dak Prescott
Geno smith
Bryce Young
Baker Mayfield
Jimmy G
Russell Wilson
Kenny Pickett
Justin Fields

I'd take all those over Howell currently

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[quote=JGisLordOfTheRings;1349713]Nah. Gimme Minshew. Kids got grit in spades

Sent from my SM-S901U using Tapatalk[/quote]

So does Sam, Minshew has been in the league a few years. and Indy's record is the same as our team.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1349715]In no order:

Dak Prescott
Geno smith
Bryce Young
Baker Mayfield
Jimmy G
Russell Wilson
Kenny Pickett
Justin Fields

I'd take all those over Howell currently[/quote]

Glad you are not our GM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1349718]Glad you are not our GM[/quote]

Concur.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1349712]To all the Howell doubters/haters, who would you rather have from this list:

Zach Wilson
Mac Jones
Jimmy G
Russell Wilson
Deshaun Watson
Kenny Pickett
Richardson/Minshew
Tannehill
Daniel Jones
Dak Prescott
Geno Smith
Kyler Murray
Jordan Love
Justin Fields
Desmond Ridder
Baker Mayfield
Derek Carr
Bryce Young

I'd stick with Howell and pass on all of them.[/quote]
You could add Sam to that list and no one be like omg why is he listed with them

They are all equally bad

There is literally nothing special about SH , sorry

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[quote=mredskins;1349725]You could add Sam to that list and no one be like omg why is he listed with them

They are all equally bad

There is literally nothing special about SH , sorry[/quote]

8 games, bad OC and shitty OL, nope.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1349712]To all the Howell doubters/haters, who would you rather have from this list:

Zach Wilson
Mac Jones
Jimmy G
Russell Wilson
Deshaun Watson
Kenny Pickett
Richardson/Minshew
Tannehill
Daniel Jones
Dak Prescott
Geno Smith
Kyler Murray
Jordan Love
Justin Fields
Desmond Ridder
Baker Mayfield
Derek Carr
Bryce Young

I'd stick with Howell and pass on all of them.[/QUOTE]


We are going to be drafting top 5, and if Maye or Williams, most likely Maye, is there they will be chosen.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1349718]Glad you are not our GM[/quote]

I'm glad you aren't either. Yall can ride the Howell wave like he has arrived already like some fans do some random player every year, but I am not on that wave currently.

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[quote=punch it in;1349729]We are going to be drafting top 5, and if Maye or Williams, most likely Maye, is there they will be chosen.[/quote]

No we won’t

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1349728]8 games, bad OC and shitty OL, nope.[/quote]

Ok bro

You are delusional

To date there is nothing special about Sam

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[quote=mredskins;1349735]Ok bro

You are delusional

To date there is nothing special about Sam[/quote]

whatever you say

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1349736]whatever you say[/quote]

I am sorry you wasted money on a Howell jersey

If you put it on eBay punch it in might buy it off you

A little something to listen too as your angry builds towards the reality Sam is nothing special

[url]https://youtu.be/1k8craCGpgs?si=RGh_iXCQHI_buUvI[/url]

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[quote=mredskins;1349737]I am sorry you wasted money on a Howell jersey

If you put it on eBay punch it in might buy it off you

A little something to listen too as your angry builds towards the reality Sam is nothing special

[url]https://youtu.be/1k8craCGpgs?si=RGh_iXCQHI_buUvI[/url][/quote]

I can't wait till you eat crow, I'll make sure to remind you.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1349739]I can't wait till you eat crow, I'll make sure to remind you.[/quote]

I hope you are right we need a franchise QB , I just don’t see it in SH

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My take - for what it is worth. For all practical purposes Howell is still a rookie - only 8 NFL starts - I am not counting preseason. Our OL can't block to get the running game going and is suspect on pass blocking. Some sacks are Howells fault for hanging on to the ball to long - he is waiting a receiver to get open. OC has him passing 30 to 40 times a game. To expect a someone with very NFL starts to carry a team under these circumstances is not realistic

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1349731]No we won’t[/QUOTE]


Be drafting top 5 or take a quarterback?

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1349773]Be drafting top 5 or take a quarterback?[/QUOTE]


Cards and Panthers are going to be up there, but our remaining schedule is brutal. This team is eventually going to give up and stop playing for Ron. Allen all but told the team to go fuck itself today. We are drafting top 10 no doubt, top 5 is a real possibility. There are a lot of 2-3 win teams who appear to be finding their way. We are losing our way. Trending down.

Meant to edit not quote my post [emoji2371]