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Going to gold and white and using burgundy just for trim looks really cool !!! Love that picture of Chase ! If they sell that jersey, I may have to get that one. I have shied away from player jerseys since my purchase of an RG3 jersey.

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I think it's time we change up a bit too, long overdue IMO

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Can't really find much to argue about with this list, what do you think

[URL="https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/6/11/21287650/mark-tylers-10-core-redskins-to-build-around"]Mark Tyler’s 10 Core Redskins to Build Around[/URL]

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[quote=MTK;1252850]Can't really find much to argue about with this list, what do you think

[URL="https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/6/11/21287650/mark-tylers-10-core-redskins-to-build-around"]Mark Tyler’s 10 Core Redskins to Build Around[/URL][/quote]

It’s a solid base...I’d really like us to finally develop a blue chip player on defense again in my lifetime. Sean Taylor was on the cusp...Champ chumped out.

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[quote=MTK;1252850]Can't really find much to argue about with this list, what do you think

[URL="https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/6/11/21287650/mark-tylers-10-core-redskins-to-build-around"]Mark Tyler’s 10 Core Redskins to Build Around[/URL][/quote]

It's a good list although I'm not sure about Collins.. I think Collins can be a good player as long as the coaches use him right, because of that reason alone, I'm not sure if Collins is a player to build around.

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[quote=GridIron26;1252866]It's a good list although I'm not sure about Collins.. I think Collins can be a good player as long as the coaches use him right, because of that reason alone, I'm not sure if Collins is a player to build around.[/quote]

Agreed. Collins hasn't proven it to me yet. I think he can be solid, but I thought his tackling was inconsistant last year.

Call me crazy but I'd throw Cole Holcomb in there. I'm aware he's not the same type of playmaker Payne, Ioannidis, Young or McLaurin are.

But I think a 24 years old fast, solid tackler, smart LB is a great asset. Maybe not exactly the "build around" type, but definitely a player I'd love to see become a long time Redskin !

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[quote=MTK;1252850]Can't really find much to argue about with this list, what do you think

[URL="https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/6/11/21287650/mark-tylers-10-core-redskins-to-build-around"]Mark Tyler’s 10 Core Redskins to Build Around[/URL][/quote]

Guys who have "maybe" on them:

Chase Rouiller: I'm not sold on him yet. A strong year from the o-line would definitely help his case.

Landon Collins: For the money we're paying him, I need more than a good run defender. He's making playmaker money. He's making Polamalu, Reed, Taylor money. For that money I want turnovers, and someone who can play deep coverage. He still has yet to show that.

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[URL="https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/redskins-legendary-quarterback-doug-williams-to-be-featured-in-new-sports-movie-biopic/"]Redskins legendary quarterback Doug Williams to be featured in new sports movie biopic[/URL]

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Fun read [url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/6/12/21288641/football-outsiders-ranks-redskins-9th-overall-in-drafting-efficiency-over-last-ten-years[/url]

Not that we have done anything with it yet.

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[quote=mooby;1252877]Guys who have "maybe" on them:

Chase Rouiller: I'm not sold on him yet. A strong year from the o-line would definitely help his case.

Landon Collins: For the money we're paying him, I need more than a good run defender. He's making playmaker money. He's making Polamalu, Reed, Taylor money. For that money I want turnovers, and someone who can play deep coverage. He still has yet to show that.[/quote]

All that but can he also stay healthy,he did ok health wise with the Skins? All were questions the Giants had on him and why they didn't give him the play maker money.

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[URL="https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/6/13/21290059/chase-roullier-may-be-one-of-the-most-underrated-centers-in-the-nfl"]Chase Roullier May be One of the Most Underrated Centers in the NFL[/URL]

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[quote=MTK;1252967][URL="https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/6/13/21290059/chase-roullier-may-be-one-of-the-most-underrated-centers-in-the-nfl"]Chase Roullier May be One of the Most Underrated Centers in the NFL[/URL][/quote]

Great read thanks.
I like Chase a lot, while I don't have the detailed football knowledge to appreciate his play the way it deserves, I like the stability he gives us at OL.

With TW gone, Moses on the decline, Scherff still not extended, Wes Martin still having to fully prove it and rookie Charles being a rookie... being set at center is nice.

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[quote=MTK;1252967][URL="https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/6/13/21290059/chase-roullier-may-be-one-of-the-most-underrated-centers-in-the-nfl"]Chase Roullier May be One of the Most Underrated Centers in the NFL[/URL][/quote]


Easily one of the best 6th round picks in team history. I'd like to see the Skins keep him around for a while.

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Interesting question posed on Hogs Haven ... what say you?

Apparently there are teams interested in Ryan Anderson.

Should the Skins trade Anderson? He's in his last year of his rookie deal, and hits free agency next year.

Would you trade him now for a 6th or 7th round pick?
Or for a 5th round pick?

Here are the details, and a poll ...

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/6/15/21291897/teams-have-reportedly-expressed-interest-in-ryan-anderson-should-the-redskins-trade-him[/url]

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I’d rather see what RA could do in this new defense vs picking up a later rd pick


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I would not trade For anything less than a 3rd round pick ...

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1252983]Interesting question posed on Hogs Haven ... what say you?

Apparently there are teams interested in Ryan Anderson.

Should the Skins trade Anderson? He's in his last year of his rookie deal, and hits free agency next year.

Would you trade him now for a 6th or 7th round pick?
Or for a 5th round pick?

Here are the details, and a poll ...

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/6/15/21291897/teams-have-reportedly-expressed-interest-in-ryan-anderson-should-the-redskins-trade-him[/url][/quote]

My knee jerk is to see what RA can do in the new defense but if there was a young WR or TE we liked on the team interested, I’d talk

I worry about swinging and missing with TE and WR this offseason...Haskins gonna need help

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I think we have too many questions at LB to trade Ryan Anderson. He has been solid even though he's yet another player who wasn't used properly by the previous regime.

As for extending him, I recall RR saying that the Skins aren't planning to extend anyone until the coaches get a good look at the players on the field.

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Agree with last few posts on RA. I say resurrect this question in August. Listen to the murmurs from camp; if he get more reps and praise from coaches, definitely keep him and see what happens this season. If he is just another also ran, then look for a TE trade ideally. Personally I think any trade where we lose a body at this point in time is premature.

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End of eras

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/06/20/redskins-retire-bobby-mitchells-jersey-remove-george-preston-marshalls-name-seating-level/[/url]

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Here's an interesting chart I found:

[U]Highest Receiving Grades for Rookie WRs Since 2010[/U]
Odell Beckham Jr. 2014 91.2
[B]Terry McLaurin 2019 86.5[/B]
Keenan Allen 2013 86.4
Michael Thomas 2016 86.3
Mike Evans 2014 84.0
A.J. Brown 2019 80.9
Chris Godwin 2017 80.4
Doug Baldwin 2011 80.4
Stefon Diggs 2015 78.9
Tyreek Hill 2016 78.7

*Among players who ran 250 or more routes

[I]My comment: Everyone on this list is a star which should mean that there is little risk of regression by Terry.[/I]

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1253256]Here's an interesting chart I found:

[U]Highest Receiving Grades for Rookie WRs Since 2010[/U]
Odell Beckham Jr. 2014 91.2
[B]Terry McLaurin 2019 86.5[/B]
Keenan Allen 2013 86.4
Michael Thomas 2016 86.3
Mike Evans 2014 84.0
A.J. Brown 2019 80.9
Chris Godwin 2017 80.4
Doug Baldwin 2011 80.4
Stefon Diggs 2015 78.9
Tyreek Hill 2016 78.7

*Among players who ran 250 or more routes

[I]My comment: Everyone on this list is a star which should mean that there is little risk of regression by Terry.[/I][/quote]


It’s exciting...and all teams now know this going into this year. So without adding much in the passing game at TE or receiver opposite Terry it will be much easier to game plan for him.

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[quote=Chico23231;1253259]It’s exciting...and all teams now know this going into this year. So without adding much in the passing game at TE or receiver opposite Terry it will be much easier to game plan for him.[/quote]

Yep, I'm excited to see how Terry will handle the extra attention this year. Also, this is where Scott needs to prove his worth as offense coordinator.

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[quote=GridIron26;1253267]Yep, I'm excited to see how Terry will handle the extra attention this year. Also, this is where Scott needs to prove his worth as offense coordinator.[/quote]

Will he get extra attention though. From my perspective it seemed clear to every one after about 2 games last year that he was the sole play maker on offence. When later in the year Sims started making plays it was in part because defences were concentrating on McClaurin. McClaurin was being guarded 1 on 1 by the top corner-backs on the opposite team including the likes of Slay and Gilmore. I don't think he can get more attention.

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Love Jack Del Rio!!

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1253284]Will he get extra attention though. From my perspective it seemed clear to every one after about 2 games last year that he was the sole play maker on offence. When later in the year Sims started making plays it was in part because defences were concentrating on McClaurin. McClaurin was being guarded 1 on 1 by the top corner-backs on the opposite team including the likes of Slay and Gilmore. I don't think he can get more attention.[/quote]

Some defenses could have a safety hover nearby McLaurin's side sometimes to help out the CB guarding McLaurin. Based on what I learned about McLaurin, his work ethics is off charts and I have no doubts McLaurin is doing everything to refine his skills in this offseason, which will put more pressure on #1 CBs than last season.

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[I][B]Q. Do we have another emerging star at WR?[/B][/I]

From PFF:

We often look at efficiency numbers for wide receivers that explore how effective they are after the ball comes their way. Drawing targets is a skill in itself, though. To be targeted at a high rate, a receiver must consistently separate from his defender and earn the trust of his quarterback by showing him that he can come down with the pass even if the separation isn’t there.

These were the players who excelled in those areas, drawing targets on the highest percentage of their routes in 2019.

Note: The minimum route threshold used was 25% of the maximum routes run in the group being examined. For example, Curtis Samuel ran more routes than any other wide receiver in 2019, with 647 routes run. The minimum route threshold was set to 25% of 647 (162).

ALL ROUTES: MICHAEL THOMAS, NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
Player Routes run Targets Target rate
1. Michael Thomas 599 180 30.1%
2. Davante Adams 427 124 29.0%
3. Julio Jones 572 149 26.0%
4. DeAndre Hopkins 584 146 25.0%
5. Tyreek Hill 351 87 24.8%
6. Keenan Allen 596 147 24.7%
[B]7. Steven Sims 213 52 24.4%[/B]
8. Allen Robinson 630 153 24.3%
9. T.Y. Hilton 276 67 24.3%
10. Alshon Jeffery 286 69 24.1%

There aren’t many surprises in this top-10, but the name that would win out in a contest of “which of these names is not like the others” would be [B]Steven Sims[/B] of the Washington Redskins. As an undrafted free agent rookie out of Kansas, Sims played a big role in the offense after coming on late in the season in a slot role. His PFF grade wasn’t all that impressive (64.4), but Sims had clearly earned the trust of quarterback Dwayne Haskins. He should get every opportunity to build on that campaign in 2020 with an uncertain depth chart behind Terry McLaurin.

LINED UP IN THE SLOT: MICHAEL THOMAS, NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
Player Routes run Targets Target rate
1. Michael Thomas 179 64 35.8%
2. DeAndre Hopkins 211 57 27.0%
3. Cooper Kupp 375 99 26.4%
4. Julio Jones 127 33 26.0%
5. Julian Edelman 413 101 24.5%
6. Allen Robinson 259 63 24.3%
7. Robert Woods 211 51 24.2%
8. Keenan Allen 308 71 23.1%
9. Sterling Shepard 184 42 22.8%
[B]10. Steven Sims 168 37 22.0%[/B]

THIRD/FOURTH DOWN: COOPER KUPP, LOS ANGELES RAMS
Player Routes run Targets Target rate
1. Cooper Kupp 169 52 30.8%
2. Alshon Jeffery 90 27 30.0%
[B]3. Steven Sims 81 24 29.6%[/B]
4. Adam Thielen 72 21 29.2%
5. Tyreek Hill 95 27 28.4%
6. Michael Thomas 150 42 28.0%
7. Hunter Renfrow 118 33 28.0%
8. Tajae Sharpe 68 19 27.9%
9. Keenan Allen 169 47 27.8%
10. Stefon Diggs 135 37 27.4%

RED ZONE: DAVANTE ADAMS, GREEN BAY PACKERS
Player Routes run Targets Target rate
1. Davante Adams 51 23 45.1%
2. Preston Williams 28 10 35.7%
3. Cooper Kupp 63 21 33.3%
[B]4. Steven Sims 27 9 33.3%[/B]
5. Hunter Renfrow 42 12 28.6%
6. Michael Thomas 90 25 27.8%
7. Allen Robinson 75 20 26.7%
8. Courtland Sutton 76 20 26.3%
9. Mike Evans 61 16 26.2%
10. Jamison Crowder 61 16 26.2%

[I][B]A: Yes, we do! His name is Steven Sims.[/B][/I]

[I]Check out his highlight reel again. This young player is legit. I think he's going to be an outstanding player in the slot for years to come. He is one of the reasons that I'm not worried about our receiving corps. [/I]

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I think Sims could be sneaky good

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[quote=MTK;1253309]I think Sims could be sneaky good[/quote]

He won't be sneaking up on people for long.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1253308][I][B]Q. Do we have another emerging star at WR?[/B][/I]

From PFF:

We often look at efficiency numbers for wide receivers that explore how effective they are after the ball comes their way. Drawing targets is a skill in itself, though. To be targeted at a high rate, a receiver must consistently separate from his defender and earn the trust of his quarterback by showing him that he can come down with the pass even if the separation isn’t there.

These were the players who excelled in those areas, drawing targets on the highest percentage of their routes in 2019.

Note: The minimum route threshold used was 25% of the maximum routes run in the group being examined. For example, Curtis Samuel ran more routes than any other wide receiver in 2019, with 647 routes run. The minimum route threshold was set to 25% of 647 (162).

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[I][B]A: Yes, we do! His name is Steven Smith.[/B][/I]

[I]Check out his highlight reel again. This young player is legit. I think he's going to be an outstanding player in the slot for years to come. He is one of the reasons that I'm not worried about our receiving corps. [/I][/quote]

Who the hell is Steven Smith?

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1253308][I][B]Q. Do we have another emerging star at WR?[/B][/I]

[I]Check out his highlight reel again. This young player is legit. I think he's going to be an outstanding player in the slot for years to come. He is one of the reasons that I'm not worried about our receiving corps. [/I][/quote]

Nice stats! Now I think I know who I should draft in the last round for my fantasy football teams.

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[quote=mooby;1253331]Who the hell is Steven Smith?[/quote]

Maybe his name isn't Steven Smith.

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Good link to the Game Pass: [url]https://www.nfl.com/news/state-of-the-franchise-redskins-trending-up-with-ron-rivera-in-tow[/url]

or just go to nfl.com and view Redskins State of the Franchise

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Interetsing read: [url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/7/3/21312787/njoku-wants-the-browns-to-trade-him-should-the-redskins-make-an-offer[/url]

Thoughts? Should we make an offer? If this is a normal season I say yes. However with teams not even negotiating contracts with some of their star players due to the mess we are in with 'rona

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1253862]Interetsing read: [url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/7/3/21312787/njoku-wants-the-browns-to-trade-him-should-the-redskins-make-an-offer[/url]

Thoughts? Should we make an offer? If this is a normal season I say yes. However with teams not even negotiating contracts with some of their star players due to the mess we are in with 'rona[/quote]

I really think his value would be a 6th round pick...if I’m the skins I’m doing my due diligence. I’m lean towards passing tho

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[quote=Chico23231;1253864]I really think his value would be a 6th round pick...if I’m the skins I’m doing my due diligence. I’m lean towards passing tho[/quote]

It is hard for me to think about it right now with the uncertainty, but I would drop a 6th the potential is there. The wrist injury is a concern.

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[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29415651/redskins-trio-minority-owners-launching-search-sell-stakes[/url]

Redskins' trio of minority owners launching search to sell stakes


Big development...I guess not happy with the name change move?

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Listened to Sheehan's latest episode. He said that a report came out (I cannot find it online if someone does know about it could you post it?) that said the Redskins have had the slowest growth by far of every single NFL franchise. Declining attendance, lack of corporate sponsors, lack of viewership in the metro area. To me a rebrand just makes economic sense at this point.

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[quote=MTK;1253309]I think Sims could be sneaky good[/quote]

He already is.


Was at the Lions game where he returned the kickoff for a TD.

SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED.

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Philly's most hated players on divisional teams. #10 Dexter Manley. He is really the Skins only representative but the author gives his reasons why. The video of Dexter smacking people around is worth a watch. Definitely a few flags there if he was playing in 2019. I like the one where he hits Phil Simms in the head while sacking him.

[url]https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2020/7/8/21313480/eagles-most-hated-nfc-east-enemies-ranking-philadelphia-nfl-terrell-owens-rivalry-cowboys-giants[/url]