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[quote=DYoungJelly;1241971]We don't have a single player on the roster who is all pro caliber.
[/quote]

Tress Way!!!
But yeah, let’s try to get a game changer.

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[url]https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2020/01/04/redskins-projected-compensatory-pick/?utm_source=MSN&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=inline-related[/url]

Redskins are projected to receive a 4th round comp. pick for losing Jamison Crowder last year.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1241989]Hey, only other UK member (I'm aware of) and another Brummie too. Orroight! 😁[/quote]

What are the chances???

Born in Stourbridge so Black Country really but now in B17 (for last 21 years)

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1242035]Originally from Coventry City myself.[/quote]

The world is getting smaller by the minute

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[quote=mooby;1242039]

Redskins are projected to receive a 4th round comp. pick for losing Jamison Crowder last year.[/quote]

That should help to plug some holes

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1241989]Hey, only other UK member (I'm aware of) and another Brummie too. Orroight! 😁[/quote]

Not quite, there are some more of us

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1242045]Not quite, there are some more of us[/quote]

I usually see a few Redskins jerseys and hats when I go to Wembley games so we're not an altogether dying breed

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[quote=Brummie Brave;1242054]I usually see a few Redskins jerseys and hats when I go to Wembley games so we're not an altogether dying breed[/quote]

The question is are they the jerseys of current players?

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1242057]The question is are they the jerseys of current players?[/QUOTE]Well I am not in Wembley [emoji25] but my son did get me a McLaurin jersey for Christmas!

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1242057]The question is are they the jerseys of current players?[/quote]

At Bengals/Rams last year I saw 1 McLaurin and a couple of Kerrigan but strangely the majority always seem to be RG3

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Most if the original Redskin fans here came from when TV coverage started in the 1980s, use to have an Art Monk Jersey, the last twenty years have somewhat eroded the fan base here ( as everywhere) and you could never be quite sure how long someone was going to hang around, buying their jersey was usually the kiss of death.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1242066]Most if the original Redskin fans here came from when TV coverage started in the 1980s, use to have an Art Monk Jersey, the last twenty years have somewhat eroded the fan base here ( as everywhere) and you could never be quite sure how long someone was going to hang around, buying their jersey was usually the kiss of death.[/quote]

Yep, that was when it started for me and what a great time to be a Skins fan. When Channel 4 TV started their 'American Football Show' they employed an NFL consultant named Ken Thomas. Ken's wife Janie was my school teacher, one day she brought a Redskins helmet in to class and it was the most beautiful thing I had ever seen. The rest is history...

As you say when things aren't going your way then fans start to drift away, its the same with any team in any sport aside from the hardcore. The recent changes are only going to have a positive impact as far as I am concerned and hopefully that will lead to success. That success will bring lapsed fans flocking back in their droves.

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I got into the NFL when we started getting games on TV (World of Sport then C4) and started playing in UK leagues in the early 80s. Skins fan from the start. Had various jerseys, Green, Bailey, Coles, Arrington but my fave is a Sean Taylor Pro Bowl. Haven't bought a jersey since as there hasn't been a player made me want to go out and get one like ST.😐

Back to the topic, we have to get Young. If only because it gives us a potential franchise player for years to come that we can build an ethos around, a la Watt, Boss etc.

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Another Brit here.

Only been a member for 16 years so not surprised you missed me.

;)

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Wow. Another British Invasion! My brother in law lives in Northwood. Does that count?

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Btw The origin of the name Chase is derived from medieval England and means “dweller at the hunting ground”. No wonder he gets after the quarterback.

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I went to NFL.Com and looked up the history of the #2 pick:

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/alltimeno2"]http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/alltimeno2[/URL]

There are some pretty nice defensive players listed.

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1242076]I went to NFL.Com and looked up the history of the #2 pick:



[URL]http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/alltimeno2[/URL]



There are some pretty nice defensive players listed.[/QUOTE]That was an interesting list. Like you said, lotta real good defensive talent.

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I’ve heard on Twitter (not a great or reliable news source) that Rivera is calling Chase Young the PREDATOR.

Unless Chase totally tubes the Combine or team interviews, I believe he will be our pick, rather than trading for more picks.

PREDATOR!


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TE just kept not being best choice. If we signed Austin Hooper and had this draft I'd be pretty excited:

2: R1P2 - EDGE - CHASE YOUNG - OHIO STATE
66: R3P2 - RB - D'ANDRE SWIFT - GEORGIA
105: R4P2 - OT - SAAHDIQ CHARLES - LSU
141: R4P38 - S - KYLE DUGGER - LENOIR-RHYNE
148: R5P2 - WR - DEVIN DUVERNAY - TEXAS
216: R7P2 - LB - WILLIE GAY JR. - MISSISSIPPI STATE
229: R7P15 - CB - TROY PRIDE JR. - NOTRE DAME

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1243171]TE just kept not being best choice. If we signed Austin Hooper and had this draft I'd be pretty excited:

2: R1P2 - EDGE - CHASE YOUNG - OHIO STATE
66: R3P2 - RB - D'ANDRE SWIFT - GEORGIA
105: R4P2 - OT - SAAHDIQ CHARLES - LSU
141: R4P38 - S - KYLE DUGGER - LENOIR-RHYNE
148: R5P2 - WR - DEVIN DUVERNAY - TEXAS
216: R7P2 - LB - WILLIE GAY JR. - MISSISSIPPI STATE
229: R7P15 - CB - TROY PRIDE JR. - NOTRE DAME[/quote]

You're projecting that the Skins will draft a player from Lenoir-Ryne? C'mon, man! What is that, a beauty school in Idaho? You're just showing off, aren't you?

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1243182]You're projecting that the Skins will draft a player from Lenoir-Ryne? C'mon, man! What is that, a beauty school in Idaho? You're just showing off, aren't you?[/quote]

I only have heard of him in the past few weeks doing these mock drafts on fanspeak.com. They get the credit not me. I just googled him. Apparently he's well known in the NFL scouting world.

Small school guys are always a cool story. I liked Moreland last year leading up to the draft too and we picked him.

Fanspeak gives you the list of players in order of rankings. He was at or near the top when I made that pick.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1243182]You're projecting that the Skins will draft a player from Lenoir-Ryne? C'mon, man! What is that, a beauty school in Idaho? You're just showing off, aren't you?[/quote]

Really?

[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001073502/article/super-sleeper-dii-safety-kyle-dugger-squarely-on-nfls-radar[/url]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1243171]TE just kept not being best choice. If we signed Austin Hooper and had this draft I'd be pretty excited:

2: R1P2 - EDGE - CHASE YOUNG - OHIO STATE
66: R3P2 - RB - D'ANDRE SWIFT - GEORGIA
105: R4P2 - OT - SAAHDIQ CHARLES - LSU
141: R4P38 - S - KYLE DUGGER - LENOIR-RHYNE
148: R5P2 - WR - DEVIN DUVERNAY - TEXAS
216: R7P2 - LB - WILLIE GAY JR. - MISSISSIPPI STATE
229: R7P15 - CB - TROY PRIDE JR. - NOTRE DAME[/quote]

Troy pride jr and Willie gay jr would be steals that late, I’d consider taking gay jr in the fourth round

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1243182]You're projecting that the Skins will draft a player from Lenoir-Ryne? C'mon, man! What is that, a beauty school in Idaho? You're just showing off, aren't you?[/quote]

What’s foolish is the pick is the fourth round...Duggar def won’t be there.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1243184]I only have heard of him in the past few weeks doing these mock drafts on fanspeak.com. They get the credit not me. I just googled him. Apparently he's well known in the NFL scouting world.

Small school guys are always a cool story. I liked Moreland last year leading up to the draft too and we picked him.

Fanspeak gives you the list of players in order of rankings. He was at or near the top when I made that pick.[/quote]

I was joking about fanspeak more than I was about your pick. I've made much stranger picks than that one on fanspeak - people I had never heard of before.

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I think the Redskins will draft the best OL BPA in the third round. The team needs new blood in the OL. Hopefully to challenge or replace Moses who regressed horribly this season.


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A few weeks ago, I think I said take Chase Young and don't look back. That still may ultimately be the best option, but if Tua is healthy, someone is going to offer us a HAUL for the #2 overall pick.

If we could pick up multiple draft selections, including another 1st, and trade down to say, #5, and there was a player there at 5 that we had graded pretty close to Chase Young, then it would be something we should consider.

So now, my position is that we should keep our options open, evaluate all the top players, and then see what kind of offers we get as the draft approaches and while we're on the clock. No moves should be considered off the table. Chase Young is an elite talent, but there is always an offer we would be stupid to refuse.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1243344]A few weeks ago, I think I said take Chase Young and don't look back. That still may ultimately be the best option, but if Tua is healthy, someone is going to offer us a HAUL for the #2 overall pick.

If we could pick up multiple draft selections, including another 1st, and trade down to say, #5, and there was a player there at 5 that we had graded pretty close to Chase Young, then it would be something we should consider.

So now, my position is that we should keep our options open, evaluate all the top players, and then see what kind of offers we get as the draft approaches and while we're on the clock. No moves should be considered off the table. Chase Young is an elite talent, but there is always an offer we would be stupid to refuse.[/quote]


You'd have to get two 1's and two 2's just to start talking

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1243344]A few weeks ago, I think I said take Chase Young and don't look back. That still may ultimately be the best option, but if Tua is healthy, someone is going to offer us a HAUL for the #2 overall pick.

If we could pick up multiple draft selections, including another 1st, and trade down to say, #5, and there was a player there at 5 that we had graded pretty close to Chase Young, then it would be something we should consider.

So now, my position is that we should keep our options open, evaluate all the top players, and then see what kind of offers we get as the draft approaches and while we're on the clock. No moves should be considered off the table. Chase Young is an elite talent, but there is always an offer we would be stupid to refuse.[/quote]

I mentioned this a while back and brought up the possibility of moving back, drafting Aj Epenesa and getting a lot of picks. It would be tough to pass on Young. But I swear there were some games where you couldn't tell who was better.

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Chase is elite across the board. What is most impressive is his athletic ability to locate the ball and "Chase" down the ball carrier and make the tackle after the QB gets rid of it. He makes plays like you would hope a good LB could.

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I just don’t think we’ll be offered the big draft haul because everyone knows want Chase. It will go to later draft teams who MIGHT want Tua.

Chase will make our DL elite. Under Del Rio’s tutelage and coaching our DL will be one if the best in the NFL.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1243345]You'd have to get two 1's and two 2's just to start talking[/quote]

Depends on how far you are talking about trading down.

Hypothetically, the Lions could want to trade up to #2 to prevent us from trading the pick away to some other team wanting a QB. This would ensure they got either Burrow or Tua.

Would you require two 1s and two 2's just to trade down one spot and draft Chase Young anyway? Of course not.

Similarly, there could be 5 non-QB players that we rank very closely to Young. So we could possibly trade down to 7, pick up something less than two 1s and two 2s and it still be worthwhile.

Or, Rivera could decide he doesn't like Haskins and LOVES some other QB who gets projected as a late 1st round pick. That could make trading down even further feasible - and of course the cost would go up the further we traded down.

My point is, its completely moronic to declare with 100% certainty THREE MONTHS away from the draft that we'd demand a kings ransom to move out of the #2 spot at all. Our decision should be based entirely on what we do in free agency, how Kyle Smith and the rest of the draft gurus rank each player, what teams are offering, and what players we'd have a chance to select at a lower draft spot.

Right now Chase young seems to be a locked in no-brainer can't miss prospect. But a lot can change in 3 months and only an idiot (like Bruce Allen) would make up his mind now - or even make a final decision until the clock was running and most of our time to select the pick was up.

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You’re right, a lot can happen in 3 months. The biggest problem would be if Chase Young completely tubes the Combine or does poorly in the team interview. Or gets busted for drugs or for some other major police matter.

However, I suspect that Chase’s handlers and family are quietly getting him ready for the combine and his interviews. The Combine preparation is big business now for NFL prospects. Doing well in the combine means million$ for players like Chase and he knows it. I suspect he will do very well in the combine and his interviews. But if he does poorly then perhaps he’s not as smart or good as everyone says.

At this time, Chase looks like an outstanding #2 prospect and a player that could help transform the defense. But thinking he’s a GUARANTEED lock for the HOF is just stupid. We’ll know a lot more about him the coming months. That fills the long, dead months after the SB and before the draft. I’ll be freakin’ excited if he pans out and we draft him!


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The “CANT MISS “ draft picks scare me... just for kicks if you were the Bengals would you trade the number one pick for the patriots first 7 rounds ...

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1243446]The “CANT MISS “ draft picks scare me... just for kicks if you were the Bengals would you trade the number one pick for the patriots first 7 rounds ...[/QUOTE]



The Bengals need an elite QB more than a boatload of Patriot picks. Besides, the Patriots don’t waste their draft picks like that.


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Here's my dream scenario (lots of moving parts):

- Redskins start to get a lot of offers from teams to move up to get Tua at #2.

- Lions have a strong desire to draft Tua as their QB of the future.

- Lions agree to swap picks, and throw in their 2nd rounder (hell, I'll take their 3rd rounder).

- Lions take Tua #2.

- Redskins take Chase at #3.

:joecool:

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[quote=Ruhskins;1243477]Here's my dream scenario (lots of moving parts):

- Redskins start to get a lot of offers from teams to move up to get Tua at #2.

- Lions have a strong desire to draft Tua as their QB of the future.

- Lions agree to swap picks, and throw in their 2nd rounder (hell, I'll take their 3rd rounder).

- Lions take Tua #2.

- Redskins take Chase at #3.

:joecool:[/quote]

I think if we did that the Lions would take Chase Young and we would look foolish. I haven't seen anything to indicated that the Lions are looking at QB with their first pick. And if they were, it is pretty obvious that the Redskins aren't going QB, so Detroit would have no need to trade up a spot.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1243344]A few weeks ago, I think I said take Chase Young and don't look back. That still may ultimately be the best option, but if Tua is healthy, someone is going to offer us a HAUL for the #2 overall pick.

If we could pick up multiple draft selections, including another 1st, and trade down to say, #5, and there was a player there at 5 that we had graded pretty close to Chase Young, then it would be something we should consider.

So now, my position is that we should keep our options open, evaluate all the top players, and then see what kind of offers we get as the draft approaches and while we're on the clock. No moves should be considered off the table. Chase Young is an elite talent, but there is always an offer we would be stupid to refuse.[/quote]


We did that in 2011 and got Ryan Kerrigan instead of taking JJ Watt at the pick we were at, and Jarvis Jenkins did nothing with it. I want to stay where we are and take the guy with the star power.

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[quote=Number44;1243479]I think if we did that the Lions would take Chase Young and we would look foolish. I haven't seen anything to indicated that the Lions are looking at QB with their first pick. And if they were, it is pretty obvious that the Redskins aren't going QB, so Detroit would have no need to trade up a spot.[/quote]

This is exactly right. If Miami, and not Detroit, was picking 3rd, it might be a gamble to take -- they obviously need a QB pretty desperately. But Detroit has other significant needs and undoubtedly assumes that they'll get a few more years out of Stafford.

I think you have to take Chase with the 2nd pick. Could be a transformational talent, and as sure a bet as there is in the crapshoot that the NFL draft can be. We shouldn't overthink this one. Given how much we like Chase, I don't see anyone offering enough to dislodge us from that choice anyway.