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I know money talks but didn't G. Williams say at some point in the recent past that he would never return to Washington to coach?

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[quote=Chico23231;1214501]From what’s likely from beat reporters and insiders...manusky will be gone. I think that’s driven a bit with who might be available.

I think my top 3 d coordinators

1 Rex Ryan
2 Greg Williams
3. Todd Bowles[/quote]

Don’t forget Tomsula, very well liked and a great motivator.

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Smith most likely is gone, not a huge loss either. He's average at best at his position.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1214501]From what’s likely from beat reporters and insiders...manusky will be gone. I think that’s driven a bit with who might be available.



I think my top 3 d coordinators



1 Rex Ryan

2 Greg Williams

3. Todd Bowles[/QUOTE]Love 2 and 3.

1 is such a big personality now I don't think he would come back as a coordinator.

If he did, is he a guy who would fall in line behind a HC?

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[quote=mooby;1214527]Stop getting my hopes up for a new d-coordinator. I haven't seen anything to indicate they are going to make any changes this offseason, including Bruce.

I'd love G.Will back btw but Cleveland is really going to make a tough decision this offseason, G.Will has them playing better than any coach in their history. If I'm Cleveland I stick with him, he's more than earned it.

I'd also take Rex but isn't he out of the game since the Jets firing? He might be enjoying his retirement/his wife's toes too much to get back in the game.

And finally, since all indications point to Gruden coming back, I think he should hire another legit o-coordinator. I don't think he's smart enough to handle playcalling and HC responsibilities.[/quote]

I’ve heard multiple reporters and insiders say d cor is the most likely move. Which kinda sux. But the empty seats and the falling tv ratings in dc should spurn change. Obviously, the most logical move is Bruce being fired...still a hope there.

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Firing Bruce Allen has got to be the number one priority. He is an absolute moron. Truthfully the entire staff needs to go but getting rid of Allen would be enough to make me happy.

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Needs in order as far as team, WR, WR, ILB, S, CB, G. I honestly think JJ can run this offense well enough to get us through another season while we address these other holes. Especially with a full off season and pre season for him.

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[quote=punch it in;1214555]Needs in order as far as team, WR, WR, ILB, S, CB, G. I honestly think JJ can run this offense well enough to get us through another season while we address these other holes. Especially with a full off season and pre season for him.[/quote]

We have to draft a QB next year. I don't mind having JJ back to compete but as a 16 game starter? Idk.. that would be real tough. That's asking a lot out of him.

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[quote=punch it in;1214555]Needs in order as far as team, WR, WR, ILB, S, CB, G. I honestly think JJ can run this offense well enough to get us through another season while we address these other holes. Especially with a full off season and pre season for him.[/quote]

They return two WRs from IR. Sure they need another WR. They need 3 or 4 safeties. O-line is a top priority too
.

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[quote=punch it in;1214555]Needs in order as far as team, WR, WR, ILB, S, CB, G. I honestly think JJ can run this offense well enough to get us through another season while we address these other holes. Especially with a full off season and pre season for him.[/quote]

I agree!!!! Give the man some playmakers other than AP and he could be good! We need a go to TE that stays healthy!

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[quote=Irrefutable;1214582]They return two WRs from IR. Sure they need another WR. They need 3 or 4 safeties. O-line is a top priority too
.[/quote]

Can not count on Richardson. He will never play 16 games.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1211255]After another disaster of a game on MNF (we all knew it was coming), It is time to start over as an organization. Yes that may seem a little premature but hear me out.

A. Jay Gruden just can't get the job done plain and simple. He is now 1-7 on MNF . The Skins are now 0-6 this season after trailing at any point in a game, that is almost unheard of.

B. This team is constantly out schemed and out coached weekly, yes we have had injuries but it is also a scheme issue and we clearly can't keep up with the better teams.

C. The guys show fight I will give Jay that, even last night when everyone knew we had no chance,(Clinton Portis said before the game "it would take a miracle") they were only down 1 point in the 4th. Jay starts calling some of the worst BS play calls we could imagine. Almost as bad as Jim Zorn. Instead of running the ball since the whole world knew Mark didn't know the play book, he brings out some fuckery and makes the team look like clowns on national tv.

D. Bruce Allen needs to go, I don't see it happening because he is Dan's boy but it is beyond time to let his ass walk. The Mcnabb , RG3 , Kirk and now Alex situations at QB alone should grant a firing.

E. FUCK YOU DAN SNYDER for ruining a once proud historic franchise into a laughing stock of the NFL. Nothing good has come since Dan bought the team, in fact we are constantly doomed year in and year out.


INJURIES - Look guys and Rave, this team is cursed PERIOD. You can't sit there and tell me otherwise. It is unreal how many injuries this team has yearly, guys drop like flies. The QB situation should have never even been this bad, we are stuck with Mark Sanchez as the QB1 for the last 4 weeks, it is laughable at this point. Being a Redskins fan is now the equivalent to being a Lions or Browns fan, I don't give a flying fuck about 3 SB's that happened 30 years ago, this team needs a clean slate and it starts with BA, JAY and his staff. All need to be fired by DEC 31st.

I hope we lose out and get a top 10 Pick, draft Will Grier or Justin Herbert and start over.

Have at it folks[/quote]I agree with everything you've said,as I've said myself,and I'll say again folks don't believe in mystical things such as curses,laugh if you wanna but until this team changes the racist name this team is-CURSED..that and the fact that Gruden can't coach worth a damn and why oh why is Bruce Allen still here?????

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I had forgotten all about Richardson,I know that we can't get rid of everybody[too bad]but I hope they let Doug run things and pluleeeeeeeeeeeeze keep Bruce as far away as possible,fire Gruden's sorry butt oh and we may need a quarterback somewhere down the line..like maybe a young one with some upside and how bout a pair of receivers.

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Per keim all gone today:

Brian Lafemina, COO & President of Business Ops
Steve Ziff, CMO
Jake Bye, Sr VP Consumer Sales & Marketing

Wow...but Bruce remains

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[quote=Chico23231;1214685]Per keim all gone today:

Brian Lafemina, COO & President of Business Ops
Steve Ziff, CMO
Jake Bye, Sr VP Consumer Sales & Marketing

Wow...but Bruce remains[/quote]

Dan Synder must be a masochist.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1214685]Per keim all gone today:



Brian Lafemina, COO & President of Business Ops

Steve Ziff, CMO

Jake Bye, Sr VP Consumer Sales & Marketing



Wow...but Bruce remains[/QUOTE]



Most fans here will be ok with that. They find this organization acceptable


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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1214693]Most fans here will be ok with that. They find this organization acceptable


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Quit speaking for everybody else, just because your bum ass is on here talking about rooting for the Eagles, and fuck the Redskins doesn't mean everybody else is.

You're clearly on the anger stage of being a Redskins fan, come back when you've reached the apathetic stage.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1214685]Per keim all gone today:



Brian Lafemina, COO & President of Business Ops

Steve Ziff, CMO

Jake Bye, Sr VP Consumer Sales & Marketing



Wow...but Bruce remains[/QUOTE]


Whether it’s a virtue or a flaw, Snyder is incredibly loyal to “his guys.” Expecting him to fire Allen is unrealistic. The best we can hope for is that he’s moved outside of football ops and this could very well be step 1 towards that.

If Bruce is moving away from football operations and going to focus exclusively on the business side of things (like the stadium deal), then Lafemina was no longer necessary. And From what I’ve read, Bruce is pretty connected and involved with the stadium deal. While we all want him GONE, Snyder could have felt it would set the deal back too much if he let Allen go.



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[quote=mooby;1214695]Quit speaking for everybody else, just because your bum ass is on here talking about rooting for the Eagles, and fuck the Redskins doesn't mean everybody else is.

You're clearly on the anger stage of being a Redskins fan, come back when you've reached the apathetic stage.[/quote]

I second this. Don’t necessarily disagree with his comments but have gotten tired of his incessant and obscene vitriole.

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Gosh these moves make so anxious.

Are they premises of a complete overhaul or on the contrary are they deceiving moves to make more of the same look like a change?

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1214685]Per keim all gone today:



Brian Lafemina, COO & President of Business Ops

Steve Ziff, CMO

Jake Bye, Sr VP Consumer Sales & Marketing



Wow...but Bruce remains[/QUOTE]I guess the sell out streak is back on now, pay no attention to the empty seats.

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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1214693]Most fans here will be ok with that. They find this organization acceptable


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE] After that eagles post you'd be better off starting over on here with a different name.

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1214705]After that eagles post you'd be better off starting over on here with a different name.

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You’re one of those fans that stick up for this organization, front office and coaching staff. I spoke and speak the truth without sugar coating shit. You’re mad at that.

It’s that attitude that serve as a disgrace to Joe Gibbs, Beathard, George Allen, and the others who made this a ONCE proud/great organization......30 years ago


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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1214706]You’re one of those fans that stick up for this organization, front office and coaching staff. I spoke and speak the truth without sugar coating shit. You’re mad at that.

It’s that attitude that serve as a disgrace to Joe Gibbs, Beathard, George Allen, and the others who made this a ONCE proud/great organization......30 years ago


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE] I'm not mad at all.

And I give my opinion.

Please give examples.

I can show you a recent post where I said Manusky should be replaced. From the couch, I thought he should have brought more pressure.

I simply took issue with a player bitching to the MEDIA. Bitching to the media literally accomplishes nothing but division between players and coaches.

If dude didn't like the way things were done he should have addressed his concerns to his coaches and teammates instead of bitching.

If the response he got was, "hey guy, this is how we do things here" he should have asked to be traded or released.

That's how the chain of command works in any organization in any context.

If dude didnt want to be here they would have helped him leave. Cooley and other members of the media have said so on numerous occasions.

You cannot name one successful team that tolerates divisive insubordination. This was a competent move by an incompetent FO. Just because this FO made the decision doesn't mean it's wrong. Each decision should be judged on it's own merits.

Dude was told to keep stuff private on two prior occasions, he didn't, he's gone. It's not complicated.


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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1214685]Per keim all gone today:



Brian Lafemina, COO & President of Business Ops

Steve Ziff, CMO

Jake Bye, Sr VP Consumer Sales & Marketing



Wow...but Bruce remains[/QUOTE]



Lafemina probably couldn’t wait to get out of this mess

[url]https://riggosrag.com/2018/12/26/redskins-lose-lafemina-hope/[/url]



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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1214706]You’re one of those fans that stick up for this organization, front office and coaching staff. I spoke and speak the truth without sugar coating shit. You’re mad at that.

It’s that attitude that serve as a disgrace to Joe Gibbs, Beathard, George Allen, and the others who made this a ONCE proud/great organization......30 years ago


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Your problem is you just spray unintelligible bullshit all over the boards, indiscriminately, in arbitrary directions. You don’t add any relevant thought to the discussion, just useless venting. You’re like a whiny child throwing a tantrum.

Literally nobody here cares what you have to say. Just do us all a favor and leave the board.

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1214701]Gosh these moves make so anxious.

Are they premises of a complete overhaul or on the contrary are they deceiving moves to make more of the same look like a change?

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Just overhauling marketing, not football operations. I’m sure Bruce Allen is safe.


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[quote=Schneed10;1214711]Your problem is you just spray unintelligible bullshit all over the boards, indiscriminately, in arbitrary directions. You don’t add any relevant thought to the discussion, just useless venting. You’re like a whiny child throwing a tantrum.

Literally nobody here cares what you have to say. Just do us all a favor and leave the board.[/quote]

Thank you schneed!!!’

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[quote=metalskins;1214713]Just overhauling marketing, not football operations. I’m sure Bruce Allen is safe.


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reportedly Allen signed a 3 year extension today

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[quote=MTK;1214708]Lafemina probably couldn’t wait to get out of this mess

[url]https://riggosrag.com/2018/12/26/redskins-lose-lafemina-hope/[/url]



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It’s a bad look...Lafemina is well respected

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[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1214718]reportedly Allen signed a 3 year extension today[/QUOTE]Link?

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[quote=Irrefutable;1214718]reportedly Allen signed a 3 year extension today[/quote]

Don't you put that evil on us Ricky Bobby.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1214718]reportedly Allen signed a 3 year extension today[/quote]

Nope. Nothing reported on that. It would be all over the interwebs if that was the case.

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[quote=metalskins;1214722]Nope. Nothing reported on that. It would be all over the interwebs if that was the case.[/quote]

per Ian Rapoport tweet;



Along with the front office changes from earlier, sources have told me that #Redskins have extended Team President Bruce Allen’s contract for another 3 years.

[B][/B]copied tweet from about 6 pm, it appears to be deleted

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1214711]Your problem is you just spray unintelligible bullshit all over the boards, indiscriminately, in arbitrary directions. You don’t add any relevant thought to the discussion, just useless venting. You’re like a whiny child throwing a tantrum.



Literally nobody here cares what you have to say. Just do us all a favor and leave the board.[/QUOTE]



Oh shut your face. What makes what you have to say worth anymore than what I have to say. Nothing. Two different fans with two different opinions. Only difference is I call how I see it, and speak the truth. I’m fed up just like the rest of the eroding fan base.

This team needs all the fans it can get at this point. Nobody here cares what anyone here has to say including you.

Unless you’re a media insider, a player, member of the coaching staff, or front office, everything you say is just worthless opinion.

Like every person here. Their option, their thoughts, their opinions Mean nothing. Just like yours...


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"it appears to be deleted"

That means there's still hope!

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[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1214725]per Ian Rapoport tweet;







Along with the front office changes from earlier, sources have told me that #Redskins have extended Team President Bruce Allen’s contract for another 3 years.



[B][/B]copied tweet from about 6 pm, it appears to be deleted[/QUOTE]Guys like Rapoport Schefter or other top nfl guys don't post and delete, they would lose all credibility. Chances are it was a tweet from a fake account. If a big name tweeted Allen got a 3 yr extension that would have shot off like a wildfire

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Twitter would have exploded if that news was true. #fakeredskinsnews


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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1214711]Your problem is you just spray unintelligible bullshit all over the boards, indiscriminately, in arbitrary directions. You don’t add any relevant thought to the discussion, just useless venting. You’re like a whiny child throwing a tantrum.



Literally nobody here cares what you have to say. Just do us all a favor and leave the board.[/QUOTE]



You know what’s funny? 95% of the fan base probably agrees with and says the exact same things I say.

The problem is people like you, and most of this forum are ok with this. You find it acceptable, and it’s ok. If people like me speak up negatively you take issue with it.

Sit down and shut up


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[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1214725]per Ian Rapoport tweet;







Along with the front office changes from earlier, sources have told me that #Redskins have extended Team President Bruce Allen’s contract for another 3 years.



[B][/B]copied tweet from about 6 pm, it appears to be deleted[/QUOTE]Totally believe you.

That dude is not on the same level as the others, he is wrong more than most reporters and has had to back track on some other things.

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