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[quote=FrenchSkin;1164793]Well to be honest, he wasn't asked about the likelihood of KC being back, if was asked "on a scale to 1 to 10 what is te likelihood of Cousins being back? 10? Is that a 10? -Yes it's a 10".

So I'm not sure how much it means either. More than a FB post for sure.

I'm just trying to get a sense of how would they look, with all the signals sent to the world, if they don't bring him back.[/quote]

Kirk Cousins is going to be the QB in 2017. Period. Full Stop.

The biggest concern right now is being in a bad position to sign him long term after 2017 because of hard feelings, missing the opportunity to sign him last year, market value, changing cap, yada yada.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1164805][B]Kirk Cousins is going to be the QB in 2017. Period. Full Stop.[/B]

The biggest concern right now is being in a bad position to sign him long term after 2017 because of hard feelings, missing the opportunity to sign him last year, market value, changing cap, yada yada.[/quote]

Hope you are right.

Question though: if they fail to sign him long term this offseason, would you consider tag and trade a good option?

I would be mad because not signing him long term would be a huge mistake, but if we could get 2 first rounders, it would a lesser evil than losing him with nothing in exchange at the end of next season, wouldn't it?

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Alexa, fast forward to March 9 because I can't take this shit anymore.

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[quote=mooby;1164791]You know, a picture says a thousand words. To me, this picture says that someone from the Redskins edited together different photos of these players to form this picture.[/quote]

No Garcon or Jackson in the picture...hhhhmmmm!

I'm still going on the premise that the 'skins will slap another FT on Cousins and use that as the basis of negotiation. I think he signs a long term deal, but not before the 'skins tag him.

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[quote=metalskins;1164809]No Garcon or Jackson in the picture...hhhhmmmm!

I'm still going on the premise that the 'skins will slap another FT on Cousins and use that as the basis of negotiation. I think he signs a long term deal, but not before the 'skins tag him.[/quote]

Why would he sign a long term deal if he's franchised? Thats an easy 24 million guaranteed, and then next year when he hits the open market he will get far more than he would this year from the Skins. You ONLY franchise him if you can't get a long term deal done and you think you can get something in a trade. But that's a dicey proposition. With a tag and trade, Cousins has to agree to the deal from the other team, and that money would probably be less than what he gets in the open market. Would he accept it if he thought he could get more down the road? Doubt it. So its basically, straight up long term deal this offseason, or we tag him and he walks next offseason and all we're left with is a compensatory pick and regret

But thats all hot air, I still think a long term deal will get done soon

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[quote=SirLK26;1164810]Why would he sign a long term deal if he's franchised? Thats an easy 24 million guaranteed, and then next year when he hits the open market he will get far more than he would this year from the Skins. [B][I]You ONLY franchise him if you can't get a long term deal done and you think you can get something in a trade.[/I][/B] But that's a dicey proposition. With a tag and trade, Cousins has to agree to the deal from the other team, and that money would probably be less than what he gets in the open market. Would he accept it if he thought he could get more down the road? Doubt it. So its basically, straight up long term deal this offseason, or we tag him and he walks next offseason and all we're left with is a compensatory pick and regret

But thats all hot air, I still think a long term deal will get done soon[/quote]

I'm thinking more in terms of the Redskins tagging Cousins with the exclusive, which would simply ensure that no matter what, Kirk Cousins is locked up for the 2017 season. The Redskins can still negotiate a contract with Cousins even if he's tagged. The tag would simply buy the 'skins time to negotiate a deal. If you're thinking that the 'skins can sign Cousins to a deal worth less than $24M/year, then you're going to be disappointed. The tag would essentially establish a baseline for negotiation.

Talks of trading Cousins would fall more into the category of the non-exclusive, which I did talk about a few weeks ago, but I don't see that as a likely avenue. However, if Cousins were to get the non-exclusive slapped on him, it's a sure bet the 'skins are moving him and simply want to get something in return.

There's no reason for Cousins' agent to want to negotiate with the Redskins right now. He would love nothing more than for Cousins to hit the open market, or at least, get another franchise tag of guaranteed money. Now, if the Redskins are willing to give Cousins exactly what he wants, plus some, then I'm sure his agent is all ears. Cousins does have a good thing going with the Redskins. He's in a system that he's comfortable with, he's had a lot of success and put up big numbers in this system, and the Redskins appear to be a team that is so close to being a consistent playoff team, so I'm sure Cousins would probably prefer to stay in Washington, but he's going to look out for #1 as well like anybody would.

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[quote=metalskins;1164812]I'm thinking more in terms of the Redskins tagging Cousins with the exclusive, which would simply ensure that no matter what, Kirk Cousins is locked up for the 2017 season. The Redskins can still negotiate a contract with Cousins even if he's tagged. The tag would simply buy the 'skins time to negotiate a deal. If you're thinking that the 'skins can sign Cousins to a deal worth less than $24M/year, then you're going to be disappointed. The tag would essentially establish a baseline for negotiation.

Talks of trading Cousins would fall more into the category of the non-exclusive, which I did talk about a few weeks ago, but I don't see that as a likely avenue. However, if Cousins were to get the non-exclusive slapped on him, it's a sure bet the 'skins are moving him and simply want to get something in return.

There's no reason for Cousins' agent to want to negotiate with the Redskins right now. He would love nothing more than for Cousins to hit the open market, or at least, get another franchise tag of guaranteed money. Now, if the Redskins are willing to give Cousins exactly what he wants, plus some, then I'm sure his agent is all ears. Cousins does have a good thing going with the Redskins. He's in a system that he's comfortable with, he's had a lot of success and put up big numbers in this system, and the Redskins appear to be a team that is so close to being a consistent playoff team, so I'm sure Cousins would probably prefer to stay in Washington, but he's going to look out for #1 as well like anybody would.[/quote]

Doesnt matter which tag it is, he'll trample the dog and run stop signs on his way to signing it. He will take that 24 million guaranteed and start dreaming of next offseason and the huge bidding war there will be for him. The negotiations with the Skins will effectively be over

Theres no need to tag him for the purpose of setting a baseline, the Skins already have an idea of what he wants. I think he wants to be here, its a great system, he's got a lot of good players around him. If you make him a competitive offer he will take it. If he doesnt, thats when you pull out the tag and see how much you can get for him

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Tell me the last franchise quarterback that didn't get the exclusive tag, and I'll counterpoint and tell you that's an oxymoron because it never happened.

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[quote=mooby;1164839]Tell me the last franchise quarterback that didn't get the exclusive tag, and I'll counterpoint and tell you that's an oxymoron because it never happened.[/quote]

Do you mean a QB who got the non-exclusive franchise tag? Like Matt Cassell in 2009 or Kirk Cousins last year?

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[quote=SmootSmack;1164845]Do you mean a QB who got the non-exclusive franchise tag? Like Matt Cassell in 2009 or Kirk Cousins last year?[/quote]

Look who's back, back again, Smack is back, tell a friend.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1164845]Do you mean a QB who got the non-exclusive franchise tag? Like Matt Cassell in 2009 or Kirk Cousins last year?[/quote]

The tag that Cousins got last year was a non-exclusive?

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[quote=metalskins;1164854]The tag that Cousins got last year was a non-exclusive?[/quote]

yup - [url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000640458/article/washington-redskins-franchise-tag-kirk-cousins]Washington Redskins franchise tag Kirk Cousins - NFL.com[/url]

[quote]The Washington Redskins used their non-exclusive franchise tag on Cousins, the team announced Tuesday. The designation acts as a one-year, $19.95 million contract for the quarterback, who picked a wonderful time to enjoy a breakout season in 2015[/quote]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1164857]yup - [url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000640458/article/washington-redskins-franchise-tag-kirk-cousins]Washington Redskins franchise tag Kirk Cousins - NFL.com[/url][/quote]

That's interesting. Don't know how I missed that. I assumed it was the exclusive. Maybe because I never heard of any teams wanting to negotiate with Cousins last offseason.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1164845]Do you mean a QB who got the non-exclusive franchise tag? Like Matt Cassell in 2009 or Kirk Cousins last year?[/quote]

No I meant more along the lines of a true franchise qb, like a Manning or a Brees. I like Kirk, don't get me wrong, but there were still doubts last offseason about him being a true franchise qb, and Matt Cassel was decent in '09 (iirc correctly that was the year he was coming off the 11-5 season for the Pats) but he wasn't "elite qb decent."

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[quote=mooby;1164862]No I meant more along the lines of a true franchise qb, like a Manning or a Brees. I like Kirk, don't get me wrong, but there were still doubts last offseason about him being a true franchise qb, and Matt Cassel was decent in '09 (iirc correctly that was the year he was coming off the 11-5 season for the Pats) but he wasn't "elite qb decent."[/quote]

Not sure I'm following your point. True franchise quarterbacks don't get the franchise tag? So, Kirk Cousins isn't franchise quarterback material?

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[quote=metalskins;1164873]Not sure I'm following your point. True franchise quarterbacks don't get the franchise tag? So, Kirk Cousins isn't franchise quarterback material?[/quote]

No, my point is when a truly elite qb like a Manning or Brees has their contract about to expire, they get exclusive franchise tags. I assume Kirk will get a non-exclusive tag just because that's what they did last year. If they don't even want to entertain offers he will get the exclusive tag though.

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[quote=mooby;1164862]No I meant more along the lines of a true franchise qb, like a Manning or a Brees. I like Kirk, don't get me wrong, but there were still doubts last offseason about him being a true franchise qb, and Matt Cassel was decent in '09 (iirc correctly that was the year he was coming off the 11-5 season for the Pats) but he wasn't "elite qb decent."[/quote]

I figured that's what you meant. Like if there is no doubt, you take no chances of losing him.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1164876]I figured that's what you meant. Like if there is no doubt, you take no chances of losing him.[/quote]

Exactly. I'm not positive they like Kirk that much though.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1164879]Exactly. I'm not positive they like Kirk that much though.[/QUOTE]



They should.....

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[quote=punch it in;1164880]They should.....[/quote]

I agree. There are clearly no other options that are even close to what Kirk can do. I do think there's some truth to the idea that Dan isn't Kirk's biggest fan though. Hopefully the people around him will be able to convince him to sign the check though, we already have enough holes to fill.

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I'd love to know the real inside scoop on the Dan deal. Like did he want RG3's babies so bad he just hates on Kirk? I mean the team is obviously on the upswing and a LOT is due to Cousins. I don't get it.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1164845]Do you mean a QB who got the [B]non-exclusive franchise tag[/B]? Like Matt Cassell in 2009 or Kirk Cousins last year?[/quote]

i like it, use it again if need be. welcome back smooty!

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1164883]I'd love to know the real inside scoop on the Dan deal. Like did he want RG3's babies so bad he just hates on Kirk? I mean the team is obviously on the upswing and a LOT is due to Cousins. I don't get it.[/quote]

We may never know. I have speculated about it lots, and it is my belief that Cousins and specifically his success here is a constant reminder to Dan about his horrible failure with the RG3 deal.

Shanahan drafted Cousins for a reason, to have as a backup plan incase RG3 didn't work out. If you believe what Shanahan says, he had some doubt from day one. If Shanahan had stayed, he would have installed Cousins as his starter, no question.

At the end of the day, Dan's ego certainly over-rides everything else. Make no mistakes about it, he will absolutely send Cousins packing if he feels he has to in order to stay "in the right" in his mind. And in Dan's mind he will draft the next superstar QB, and get the #1 jersey sales, merchandise, etc... That's all it's ever been about with him. He wants to win, sure, as long as winning goes along with him reaching his other goals.

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At this point we don't know what Snyder thinks. It's really all speculation cause he never ever talks to the media.

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[url=http://www.espn980.com/redskins-audio/]Redskins Audio | ESPN 980[/url]

Listen to the John Keim interview here with Steve Czaban. He touches on my earlier point about the use of the franchise tag and how thats a poor option for the Skins if they want to get a long term deal done

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[quote=SmootSmack;1164845]Do you mean a QB who got the non-exclusive franchise tag? Like Matt Cassell in 2009 or Kirk Cousins last year?[/quote]

Great to read ya buddy!

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[quote=mooby;1164875]No, my point is when a truly elite qb like a Manning or Brees has their contract about to expire, they get exclusive franchise tags. I assume Kirk will get a non-exclusive tag just because that's what they did last year. If they don't even want to entertain offers he will get the exclusive tag though.[/quote]

OK. That I agree with. Either way I think he gets tagged. Is it the smartest move to make on Cousins? I dunno? There is some doubt with Cousins, but there's also doubt with anybody not named Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, or Drew Brees. Cousins is a good enough quarterback. Mark Rypien was never elite, nor did I ever really think of him as a franchise quarterback, yet he had that one masterful year that ended in a Super Bowl victory and him as Super Bowl MVP. Right now, we Redskins fans would most certainly welcome at least ONE Super Bowl winning year.

With the history of this franchise since the 80's, we've won Super Bowls based on a well-rounded team, not just a super star quarterback. In fact, I don't really believe we have ever had an elite quarterback since the 70's, so winning Super Bowls with a good quarterback (but not great) is OK with me so as long as we get there.

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18 days to go. I really expect a deal done by the 26th. But if its a sweetheart of a deal they ought to wrap it up next Tuesday.

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[quote=metalskins;1164903]OK. That I agree with. Either way I think he gets tagged. Is it the smartest move to make on Cousins? I dunno? There is some doubt with Cousins, but there's also doubt with anybody not named Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, or Drew Brees. Cousins is a good enough quarterback. Mark Rypien was never elite, nor did I ever really think of him as a franchise quarterback, yet he had that one masterful year that ended in a Super Bowl victory and him as Super Bowl MVP. Right now, we Redskins fans would most certainly welcome at least ONE Super Bowl winning year.

With the history of this franchise since the 80's, we've won Super Bowls based on a well-rounded team, not just a super star quarterback. In fact, I don't really believe we have ever had an elite quarterback since the 70's, so winning Super Bowls with a good quarterback (but not great) is OK with me so as long as we get there.[/quote]

Is it the smartest move? When the probable alternative is every qb since Rypien not named Brad Johnson yes it is IMO. Maybe if we had Phillip Rivers waiting in the wings I'd let him walk.

Here's your options if you're the FO:

A. Resign Kirk, AAV around 25 mil a year probably, still have plenty of room to improve the team elsewhere.
B. Start career backup Colt McCoy, or that long term project car rebuild named Nate Sudfeld and pray he's the next Brady.
C. Draft a qb. out of this weak draft class, potentially moving up to get the one you want or settling for a weak option you feel that you have no choice but to get because you don't want to waste a season with a hole at qb. Either way, most likely you are wasting the next 2+ seasons as he learns how difficult it is being a qb in the modern NFL.
D. Trade for or sign another qb. Note that most available qb's already in the NFL are being discarded by their current teams because they aren't good enough for one reason or another.

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[quote=mooby;1164963]Is it the smartest move? When the probable alternative is every qb since Rypien not named Brad Johnson yes it is IMO. Maybe if we had Phillip Rivers waiting in the wings I'd let him walk.

Here's your options if you're the FO:

A. Resign Kirk, AAV around 25 mil a year probably, still have plenty of room to improve the team elsewhere.
B. Start career backup Colt McCoy, or that long term project car rebuild named Nate Sudfeld and pray he's the next Brady.
C. Draft a qb. out of this weak draft class, potentially moving up to get the one you want or settling for a weak option you feel that you have no choice but to get because you don't want to waste a season with a hole at qb. Either way, most likely you are wasting the next 2+ seasons as he learns how difficult it is being a qb in the modern NFL.
D. Trade for or sign another qb. Note that most available qb's already in the NFL are being discarded by their current teams because they aren't good enough for one reason or another.[/quote]

Like I said before, if there was some sort of trade with Phillip Rivers, I would consider that. I know we'd only have Rivers for a few seasons, but he's a proven franchise quarterback who (I believe) doesn't want to play in LA. Other than that, I really hate the idea of starting Colt McCoy or Nate S. Colt is a solid backup, but I don't believe is starting material. Either way, we'd see Nate in there before the season is over with.

Either the front office is playing this so genius that none of us can see it, or they're going to wind up playing it stupidly. I'd like to think we're past the Vinny Cerrato days and that the 'skins are merely waiting until closer to the deadline to cry uncle and give Cousins what he wants.

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[quote=metalskins;1164967]Like I said before, if there was some sort of trade with Phillip Rivers, I would consider that. I know we'd only have Rivers for a few seasons, but he's a proven franchise quarterback who (I believe) doesn't want to play in LA. Other than that, I really hate the idea of starting Colt McCoy or Nate S. Colt is a solid backup, but I don't believe is starting material. Either way, we'd see Nate in there before the season is over with.

Either the front office is playing this so genius that none of us can see it, or they're going to wind up playing it stupidly. I'd like to think we're past the Vinny Cerrato days and that the 'skins are merely waiting until closer to the deadline to cry uncle and give Cousins what he wants.[/quote]
The front office has said that he's going to be here, and also implied that it will be a long term deal. I think most of the fretting is that we are simply used to the front office botching this.

I also think that once the ink is dry the warpath en masse will be ticked at how much we paid. I continue to expect a minimum of 65Million guaranteed, and a 6 year 140M deal.

The numbers will make some heads here explode.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1164969]The front office has said that he's going to be here, and also implied that it will be a long term deal. I think most of the fretting is that we are simply used to the front office botching this.

I also think that once the ink is dry the warpath en masse will be ticked at how much we paid. I continue to expect a minimum of 65Million guaranteed, and a 6 year 140M deal.

The numbers will make some heads here explode.[/quote]

When was the last true time that we had to make a big money deal on a QB?

Was it Mark Brunell, or was it Jeff George? And this isn't a joke question, i'm saying when was the last time we had a situation like this where we were trying to sign a starting QB to big time money?

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1164976]When was the last true time that we had to make a big money deal on a QB?

Was it Mark Brunell, or was it Jeff George? And this isn't a joke question, i'm saying when was the last time we had a situation like this where we were trying to sign a starting QB to big time money?[/quote]

We haven't, but we certainly have tried forever. The closest to where we are now might have been Trent Green (he rejected 4 year 12M, and the next year took 4yr 17M. crazy that 20 years later we are looking at 24M for 1 yr, now that's wage inflation) Anyways, that's why we aren't going to let KC go.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1164969]The front office has said that he's going to be here, and also implied that it will be a long term deal. I think most of the fretting is that we are simply used to the front office botching this.

I also think that once the ink is dry the warpath en masse will be ticked at how much we paid. I continue to expect a minimum of 65Million guaranteed, and a 6 year 140M deal.

The numbers will make some heads here explode.[/quote]

Yes, it is incredible how much money NFL teams will pay for a QB now. My head won't explode but I may throw up - and I usually side with the players on money matters.

It's just terrible what a huge QB contract can do to a team's salary cap.

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Here's a question for all you arm chair psychologists. Do you think the fact that in 2016 Cousins was still auditioning for a long term contract, it had an impact on the games where he kind of choked. And if the answer is yes, then would signing him to a long term deal have the added bonus of allowing him to settle down and relax so he can just do his job.

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[quote=rickmmrr;1164989]Here's a question for all you arm chair psychologists. Do you think the fact that in 2016 Cousins was still auditioning for a long term contract, it had an impact on the games where he kind of choked. And if the answer is yes, then would signing him to a long term deal have the added bonus of allowing him to settle down and relax so he can just do his job.[/quote]

I'm an arm chair psycho, so I'll give it a try. Kirk hinted that not having a deal kept him from performing at his best. To me, that is simply a poor excuse. He has my permission to relax and just do his job with or without a long-term contract. WTF is he whining about when he just got paid twenty freakin' million dollars for one season's work? It's like he's saying "Poor me, I'm only set up financially for one lifetime. I'm so worried that I won't get a contract with a $40M guarantee that will set me up for three lifetimes that I can hardly focus on my job." What a crock!

If anything, that kind of attitude, or excuse, makes him look like he lacks focus and mental toughness, which would make him exactly the type of QB I [U]wouldn't[/U] want to sign to a long-term deal. Oh, I want him to be re-signed but I also want him to act like a man and stop whining and making far-fetched excuses for his inconsistent play. If he is a true competitor, then he doesn't need tens of millions more dollars so he can relax and continue striving to get better. He'll get more big money this season regardless of what he does but he shouldn't act as if worrying about the money has anything to do with his being able to improve his performance.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1164995]I'm an arm chair psycho, so I'll give it a try. Kirk hinted that not having a deal kept him from performing at his best. To me, that is simply a poor excuse. He has my permission to relax and just do his job with or without a long-term contract. WTF is he whining about when he just got paid twenty freakin' million dollars for one season's work? It's like he's saying "Poor me, I'm only set up financially for one lifetime. I'm so worried that I won't get a contract with a $40M guarantee that will set me up for three lifetimes that I can hardly focus on my job." What a crock!

If anything, that kind of attitude, or excuse, makes him look like he lacks focus and mental toughness, which would make him exactly the type of QB I [U]wouldn't[/U] want to sign to a long-term deal. Oh, I want him to be re-signed but I also want him to act like a man and stop whining and making far-fetched excuses for his inconsistent play. If he is a true competitor, then he doesn't need tens of millions more dollars so he can relax and continue striving to get better. He'll get more big money this season regardless of what he does but he shouldn't act as if worrying about the money has anything to do with his being able to improve his performance.[/quote]

:headbanger::goodjob:

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1164995]I'm an arm chair psycho, so I'll give it a try. Kirk hinted that not having a deal kept him from performing at his best. To me, that is simply a poor excuse. He has my permission to relax and just do his job with or without a long-term contract. WTF is he whining about when he just got paid twenty freakin' million dollars for one season's work? It's like he's saying "Poor me, I'm only set up financially for one lifetime. I'm so worried that I won't get a contract with a $40M guarantee that will set me up for three lifetimes that I can hardly focus on my job." What a crock!

If anything, that kind of attitude, or excuse, makes him look like he lacks focus and mental toughness, which would make him exactly the type of QB I [U]wouldn't[/U] want to sign to a long-term deal. Oh, I want him to be re-signed but I also want him to act like a man and stop whining and making far-fetched excuses for his inconsistent play. If he is a true competitor, then he doesn't need tens of millions more dollars so he can relax and continue striving to get better. He'll get more big money this season regardless of what he does but he shouldn't act as if worrying about the money has anything to do with his being able to improve his performance.[/quote]

I like your point.

But I also think that for the players it's not all about the money.
It's also a very emotional game.
And I can understand the need to feel support from the board, to feel legitimate not only to play your best football, but to be the leader of the team too, to feel that your work is appreciated.

The guy we saw yell "How do you like me now?!" wasn't begging for money, but for support. (Money is a way to show that you believe in somebody though.)

Now is it an excuse for inconsistent play? Absolutely not. But it has to influence the mindset of a player, his level of confidence.

After to great seasons by KC, I can picture how all the noise and uncertainty, pretty much because of one bad game, has to feel pretty unfair and cheap.

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1165007]I like your point.



But I also think that for the players it's not all about the money.

It's also a very emotional game.

And I can understand the need to feel support from the board, to feel legitimate not only to play your best football, but to be the leader of the team too, to feel that your work is appreciated.



The guy we saw yell "How do you like me now?!" wasn't begging for money, but for support. (Money is a way to show that you believe in somebody though.)



Now is it an excuse for inconsistent play? Absolutely not. But it has to influence the mindset of a player, his level of confidence.



After to great seasons by KC, I can picture how all the noise and uncertainty, pretty much because of one bad game, has to feel pretty unfair and cheap.[/QUOTE]


Agree.


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I didn't blame Cousins inability to relax and play at his best on the lack of a long-term contract. He did.

I'll grant you that he may be upset that he doesn't have the full support of management by now.

I hate whining by anybody, especially multi-millionaires. So, whatever his reasons for being upset he can keep it to himself, as far as I'm concerned. It's business. He's holding all the cards and he doesn't even seem to know it. He should be thinking "If Snyder doesn't want me, then f*** him! I'll go elsewhere, make just as much money, and light up the little bastard's team whenever I play them." That's how grown men handle business matters.