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212-450-2027 RT“@chris_worthy RT: Clay Matthews just posted Goodell's private number on Facebook

LMAO[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the # Clay!

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[quote=JoeRedskin;945083]Watching Rogers post game interview. Man, he is doing everything he can to avoid losing it. The reporters keep asking him stupid "Does this make you feel bad?" questions.[/quote]


The frustration level is going through the roof with players,coachs,and fans,it's just a matter of time till someone does something stupid.:soapbox:

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[quote=Bucket;945104][url=http://tmi.me/xkDbM]tmi.me - HTTR24_7: 212-450-2027 R[/url]

212-450-2027 RT“@chris_worthy RT: Clay Matthews just posted Goodell's private number on Facebook

LMAO[/quote]

That's his office number

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[quote=SmootSmack;945110]That's his office number[/quote]

That number doesn't work anymore anyways, even if that was his true office number we all knew it'd get shut down pretty quickly.

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I'm not surprised its been changed. Thanks Clay! No I don't have Goodell's number anymore

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Desmond bishop‏@Desbishop55: BREAKING -JaMarcus Russell eyeing return to NFL after discovering games can be won by throwing interceptions.

Desmond bishop‏@Desbishop55: “@ShakySmithson: Man if they put them replacement Refs on Madden 13 I swear to God I won't touch a game system anymore”

Desmond bishop‏@Desbishop55: Another bad call!! Wish I had my shock collar remote..

Bishop Fanatic‏@packfansince89: Here's my impression of the Commish tomorrow "You have 987057287520845620397420 voice mails.. *beep* are you sure you'd like to delete all?"

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More good stuff:

Brian Hartline@brianhartline: I had to check my TV Guide bc for a sec I thought I was watching Punk'd... I was just waiting for Ashton to pop out...

darren rovell@darrenrovell: How much was this game potentially worth to the Packers? Hosting a home playoff game is worth $2 million.

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People need to realize that the refs aren't calling up to the replay booth.

Here's what really happened:

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I think the saddest part about this replacement ref debacle is that you don't have a Denny Green, Herm Edwards, or Jim Mora Sr. coaching in the league. I am sure one of those guys would go f'ing ape sh*t in a presser if they had to deal with some of these shenanigans.

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:laughing2

[url=http://deadspin.com/5946112/]The Lingerie Football League Announces That It Fired "A Couple Crews Which Apparently Are Now Officiating In The NFL" Because Of Incompetence[/url]



[quote] Because of the LFL's perception it is that much more critical for us to hire officiating crews that are competent, not only for the credibility of our game but to keep our athletes safer. Due to several on-field incompetent officiating we chose to part ways with with a couple crews which apparently are now officiating in the NFL. We have a lot of respect for our officials but we felt the officiating was not in line with our expectations.

We have not made public comment to date because we felt it was not our place to do so. However in light of tonight's event, we felt it was only fair that NFL fans knew the truth as to who are officiating these games.
[/quote]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;945103]I thought that was because it was owners against players with Roger and the owners against Demaurice smith and the players union (Foxworth, Saturday, etc)

I think refs are a different case, because they're a whole other union and aren't owned by the players or the owners, their owned by the league office which is roger.

I read a peter king column a few weeks back talking about this and peter said something along the lines of "...if the NFL won't budge on signing these referees then an upset owner like Jerry Jones may just go ahead and say 'here roger let me just cut them a check and get this over with', because he doesn't want his team losing over these officials..."[/quote]

You invalidated your argument with "...peter king..."

He is an idiot who understands nothing. Seriously.

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[quote=NC_Skins;945132]:laughing2

[url=http://deadspin.com/5946112/]The Lingerie Football League Announces That It Fired "A Couple Crews Which Apparently Are Now Officiating In The NFL" Because Of Incompetence[/url][/quote]

LOL!!!! Why am I NOT surprised?

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Once again, Roger Goodell is a disgrace for leading the NFL into this situation. Cant believe this guy has a job.

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I couldn't imagine being a Packers fan right now. I missed the end of the game last night but I was absolutely shocked when I saw what happened this morning.

Does anyone still think the replacements refs are no big deal? Can we please stop with that nonsense now?

It was only a matter of time before these refs blew a game like this.

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Some funny stuff this morning.


[B][SIZE="3"]NFL Replacement Ref ‏@ObliviousNFLRef

Hungover. What happened last night?



Mike McCartney ‏@MikeMcCartney7

Allen Iverson: "We're talking about refs. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about refs, not a game, but we're talking about refs."

[/SIZE][/B]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;945103]I thought that was because it was owners against players with Roger and the owners against Demaurice smith and the players union (Foxworth, Saturday, etc)

I think refs are a different case, because they're a whole other union and aren't owned by the players or the owners, their owned by the league office which is roger. [/quote]

Roger can't do shit without approval of the owners. The one thing he has free reign on is fines/suspensions. He can't approve of any type of contract with any union without the owners signing off on it. He already knows what the owners will approve or not approve. He isn't going to bring some weak agreement in to the owners for them to vote on it. He's simply doing their bidding. Just face the facts, these owners care more about money then they ever do about the game. It's a cold hard fact my man. Get used to it.


[quote=Chico23231;945152]Once again, Roger Goodell is a disgrace for leading the NFL into this situation. Cant believe this guy has a job.[/quote]

Another one? Why are you blaming Goodell? No reason. Blame the owners. THEY are the cause of this, not Roger Goodell. You can blame him for fines and suspensions though.

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[quote=Chico23231;945152]Once again, Roger Goodell is a disgrace for leading the NFL into this situation. Cant believe this guy has a job.[/quote]

Goodell is not the one leading the NFL into this situation, it is 2 parties, the owners and the NFLRA, both more focused on their business model/future, than the actual product on the field this year. Is that necessarily a bad thing, no, does it make the product on the field much much worse, yes.

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[quote=NC_Skins;945159]Roger can't do shit without approval of the owners. The one thing he has free reign on is fines/suspensions. He can't approve of any type of contract with any union without the owners signing off on it. He already knows what the owners will approve or not approve. He isn't going to bring some weak agreement in to the owners for them to vote on it. He's simply doing their bidding. Just face the facts, these owners care more about money then they ever do about the game. It's a cold hard fact my man. Get used to it.




Another one? Why are you blaming Goodell? No reason. Blame the owners. THEY are the cause of this, not Roger Goodell. You can blame him for fines and suspensions though.[/quote]

NC_Skins, we go through this all the time, but why is it only the owners? I agree they share the blame, but the real refs aren't jumping through fire to give up their position and get back on the field either.

I just think this is a case where both sides are equally wrong.

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[quote=NC_Skins;945159]Roger can't do shit without approval of the owners. The one thing he has free reign on is fines/suspensions. He can't approve of any type of contract with any union without the owners signing off on it. He already knows what the owners will approve or not approve. He isn't going to bring some weak agreement in to the owners for them to vote on it. He's simply doing their bidding. Just face the facts, these owners care more about money then they ever do about the game. It's a cold hard fact my man. Get used to it.




Another one? Why are you blaming Goodell? No reason. Blame the owners. THEY are the cause of this, not Roger Goodell. You can blame him for fines and suspensions though.[/quote]

I call BS. Here's my issue with Goodell. He comes out and tries to pacify the fans and says that the refs are doing a good job. He actually came out and defended them a few weeks ago. He should just keep his mouth shut. He is one phony son of a bitch. Can't stand the guy.

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Goodell is sitting back allowing it to happen. Believe what you will, he should be the driving force between the parties in striking a deal. He is ultimately responsible for the leadership of the sport and the product on the field. Should have pushed to have this done before the season started, had all summer.

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[quote=skinsfan69;945163]I call BS. Here's my issue with Goodell. He comes out and tries to pacify the fans and says that the refs are doing a good job. He actually came out and defended them a few weeks ago. He should just keep his mouth shut. He is one phony son of a bitch. Can't stand the guy.[/quote]


He's their spokesman for better or worse. It's his job to do that. He's getting paid 10 million a year to do exactly that. The same way that DeMaurice Smith is the spokesman for the players, he in the same token cannot make any deals without the approval of the players.

It's like people blaming the President for things that Congress controls. Roger is just a pawn in all of this.




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Sad when online gambling sites have more integrity than the NFL.

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[quote=Mattyk;945153]I couldn't imagine being a Packers fan right now. I missed the end of the game last night but I was absolutely shocked when I saw what happened this morning.

Does anyone still think the replacements refs are no big deal? Can we please stop with that nonsense now?

It was only a matter of time before these refs blew a game like this.[/quote]

I honestly did not think they would be this bad. What I saw last night was simply atrocious. Not only did they hand Seattle the game but they made numerous god awful calls. Time give these guys their walking papers.

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[quote=NC_Skins;945155]Mike McCartney ‏@MikeMcCartney7

Allen Iverson: "We're talking about refs. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about refs, not a game, but we're talking about refs."

[/SIZE][/B][/quote]Pushing it to full on Allron Rodgerson:

If a Ref misses a call then a Ref misses a call; then that's that. A Ref may miss a call or two but if somebody misses a major call? then that's enough to get a whole lot started. I told y'all that you don't have to give the fans a reason to think about going crazy or anything like that. If you want to bring back the real Refs, bring them back...simple as that. I'm cool with that. I'm all about that. The fans deserve a well officiated game. It's simple as that. It goes further than that.

If a Ref blows a call, they blow a call. It is as simple as that. It ain't about that at all. It's easy to sum it up if you're just talking about one call. We're sitting here, and supposed to be the National Football League, and we're talking about blown calls. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about blown calls, that cost teams a game, not a practice, not a practice, but we're talking about a game. The game we players go out there and die for and play every game last it's my last but we're talking about some replacement Refs man. How silly is that?

Now I know that I'm supposed to lead by example and all that but I'm not shoving that aside like it don't mean anything. I know it's important, I honestly do but we're talking about the integrity of the game. We're talking not talking about practice man....We're talking the games! We're talking about some lousy replacement Refs. We're about some no good lousy replacement Refs. Costing players, teams and fan the game. We're talking about the game man. When you come to the stadium, and you see me play, you've seen me play right, you've seen me give everything I've got, but we're talking about some Refs right now.

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[quote=skinsfan69;945163]I call BS. Here's my issue with Goodell. He comes out and tries to pacify the fans and says that the refs are doing a good job. He actually came out and defended them a few weeks ago. He should just keep his mouth shut. He is one phony son of a bitch. Can't stand the guy.[/quote]

on a scale of 1 to 10, goodell at a 3 or 4

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[quote=NC_Skins;945166][B]He's their spokesman for better or worse[/B]. It's his job to do that. He's getting paid 10 million a year to do exactly that. The same way that DeMaurice Smith is the spokesman for the players, he in the same token cannot make any deals without the approval of the players.

It's like people blaming the President for things that Congress controls. Roger is just a pawn in all of this.




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Sad when online gambling sites have more integrity than the NFL.[/quote]


Roger Goodell is a spokesman? :Flush:

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[quote=NC_Skins;945166]He's their spokesman for better or worse. It's his job to do that. He's getting paid 10 million a year to do exactly that. The same way that DeMaurice Smith is the spokesman for the players, he in the same token cannot make any deals without the approval of the players.

It's like people blaming the President for things that Congress controls. Roger is just a pawn in all of this.




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Sad when online gambling sites have more integrity then the NFL.[/quote]

So he basically comes out and tries to pull wool over the people that pay his salary? He should just say..." Look, they're doing the best job they can, we're doing everything we can to get a deal done with the regular refs"... Like I said...he should just keep his mouth shut. Goodell and the owners are pissing off their customers. I would love to see Green Bay's fans not show up to their next home game. Everyone should stay home. Well....the owners are the fans so that might not work. lol.

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The call was terrible, but what's the excuse going to be when regular referees return and they make the same bad calls fans have been complaining about for years?

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[quote=NC_Skins;945166]He's their spokesman for better or worse. It's his job to do that. He's getting paid 10 million a year to do exactly that. The same way that DeMaurice Smith is the spokesman for the players, he in the same token cannot make any deals without the approval of the players.

It's like people blaming the President for things that Congress controls. [B][I]Roger is just a pawn in all of this.[/I][/B]




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Sad when online gambling sites have more integrity then the NFL.[/quote]

I think the guy has alot more influence on the happenings of this league than you are giving him credit for. He is the commissioner. 110% of his time should have been at the bargaining table with the refs since the disaster that was week two. Instead, he gives half assed BS statements that they are doing a good job, and then has the AUDACITY to THREATEN the players with fines if they don't show respect to these bumbling idiots, and these are the players that he says their safety is the number one concern of the league. Another bull shit statement. Goodell could make this thing happen, Im sure he has plenty of influence over the situation. To think that he doesn't is kinda naive.

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[quote=Chico23231;945169]on a scale of 1 to 10, goodell at a 3 or 4[/quote]

I give him a 2.

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I touched a baby on the head in the grocery store the other day and a replacement ref awarded me custody.

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[quote=SmootSmack;945173]The call was terrible, but what's the excuse going to be when regular referees return and they make the same bad calls fans have been complaining about for years?[/quote]

Yeah, I dont think the comparison close. Refs will always miss calls, but their knowledge of the rules of the game is much stronger than what we have seen. [I]Simple[/I] things such as time keeping with the clock, spotting the ball, knowing how many challenges or timeouts, etc. have been sorely missed.

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[quote=SmootSmack;945173]The call was terrible, but what's the excuse going to be when regular referees return and they make the same bad calls fans have been complaining about for years?[/quote]

come on, its never been this bad. Every week, there are at least 5 or 6 games in question with calls that had a major impact on either the flow or the outcome of the game. OF course people are always going to complain about calls, but you have to admit that this is just a little out of hand now.

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[quote=SmootSmack;945173]The call was terrible, but what's the excuse going to be when regular referees return and they make the same bad calls fans have been complaining about for years?[/quote]

It's true that the regular refs aren't perfect. And, I had mostly been of the feeling that you need to give these guys time. But time seems to be making matters worse. One guy who was at the Ravens game near the sideline told me that a well known Ravens LB was telling his CB's to just get the hands on the receivers because the refs weren't calling things.

Whatever, you can't convince me that every game would be having this many issues like they are now. Maybe one dramatic call every few weeks, at most. Not game changing f ups in multiple games every single week.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;945178]I touched a baby on the head in the grocery store the other day and a replacement ref awarded me custody.[/quote]

I just heard something along those lines on ESPN radio, it might have been mike and mike, I think it was cris carter or someone that said something like that.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;945178]I touched a baby on the head in the grocery store the other day and a replacement ref awarded me custody.[/quote]

SarcasticRover needs to tell SarcasticRef that he reviewed the playcall from mars and the ruling on the field was confirmed.

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All the bad calls and crazy endings over the last few weeks look like one typical Redskin game. I dont know why all the hate.

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[quote=SmootSmack;945173]The call was terrible, but what's the excuse going to be when regular referees return and they make the same bad calls fans have been complaining about for years?[/quote]

I heard that some of the division is they want the real refs to become full time employees, and train in the offseason?

Snoop is on first take today, he literally knows nothing about the NFL lmao

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[quote=SmootSmack;945173]The call was terrible, but what's the excuse going to be when regular referees return and they make the same bad calls fans have been complaining about for years?[/quote]

Kinda opens up a whole nuther can of worms...

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[quote=SmootSmack;945173]The call was terrible, but what's the excuse going to be when regular referees return and they make the same bad calls fans have been complaining about for years?[/quote]

To me there is a distinction between bad calls and wrong calls. People weren't wholly concerned about the integrity of the game under the regular refs. But now? There are plenty of people worried about it. Until our Rams game I was part of the "these guys aren't too bad and they'll get better" crowd. These past two weeks have proven to me though just how difficult the job is and just how unqualified these scabs are. It is CLEARLY affecting the game and it is even more CLEARLY affecting the fans' perception of the game. THAT is a major problem that the league needs to recognize and get fixed immediately.