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[quote=wilsowilso;787541]:)

I like. Part of me was hoping you were being serious, but it was hard to imagine.[/quote]

Hey I don't blame you guys for questioning it.....I've read somethings on this site that make me actually say aloud WTF!!!? Some people don't get it and others do..........but hey we are all fam and we are on this ride together.

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Haha ok good, it had me confused obviously!

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;787510]?????? I didnt pick up any sarcasm out of that.....just really good points.[/quote]

Tell us your choice:

[url=http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/which-offseason-move-will-help-the-raiders-most-in,19211/]Which offseason move will help the Raiders most in 2011? | Sportsdome[/url]

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[quote=Monkeydad;787578]Tell us your choice:

[url=http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/which-offseason-move-will-help-the-raiders-most-in,19211/]Which offseason move will help the Raiders most in 2011? | Sportsdome[/url][/quote]

Must go with this one......

Getting a skeleton of a Tyrannosaurus Rex reconstructed in the back of the east end zone for some reason

ummmmmm and why exactly am i answering this ridiculous question about the Raiders again??

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It's a test. :D

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[quote=Monkeydad;787588]It's a test. :D[/quote]


Lol .umm ok. Did i pass

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;787543]Hey I don't blame you guys for questioning it.....I've read somethings on this site that make me actually say aloud WTF!!!? Some people don't get it and others do..........but hey we are all fam and we are on this ride together.[/quote]

And don't forget to mention that all the people that don't know what they are talking about fuel the fire for great discussion! I'm sure everyone has made an uninformed comment on here at one point or another. I know I have. Some just are more accustomed and have a higher frequency of them than others.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/04/plaxico-burress-gets-june-6-release-date/]Plaxico Burress gets June 6 release date | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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Vikings talking Kyle Orton

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/06/devin-aromashodu-on-his-way-out-in-chicago/]Devin Aromashodu on his way out in Chicago | ProFootballTalk[/url]

With a good WR coach he can probably play on many teams.

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81ea1a84/article/chargers-lb-cooper-believes-time-in-san-diego-is-over?module=HP_headlines]NFL.com news: Chargers LB Cooper believes time in San Diego is over[/url]

Think we should try go after him?

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[quote=GridIron26;787837][url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81ea1a84/article/chargers-lb-cooper-believes-time-in-san-diego-is-over?module=HP_headlines]NFL.com news: Chargers LB Cooper believes time in San Diego is over[/url]

Think we should try go after him?[/quote]

he s too small for th 3-4 thats why SD is getting rid of him

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And the fact that he's not any good is also a reason

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Loyal readers of TheWarpath may remember when I said this a few years ago

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/282232-post20.html[/url]

[quote]I wish I knew what was going on with the Dockery negotiations. I have heard however, from a pretty reliable source, that Dock’s agent’s initial proposal to the Redskins was a $17 million signing bonus. Yes, $17 million.

Now clearly (I think) this was just a starting point for further bargaining. But it gives you an idea of Dock and his agent’s (Todd France) ultimate asking price based on their starting point.[/quote]

And it turned out he signed a deal with Buffalo that got included an $18 million signing bonus.

So...same source is telling me Los is asking for a $24 million signing bonus...and he's got the same agent as Dockery.

Now, could this source be wrong? Of course, but his track record tells me it's not quite so likely

What do you all think. $24 million? Worth it?

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[quote=SmootSmack;787943]Loyal readers of TheWarpath may remember when I said this a few years ago

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/282232-post20.html[/url]



And it turned out he signed a deal with Buffalo that got included an $18 million signing bonus.

So...same source is telling me Los is asking for a $24 million signing bonus...and he's got the same agent as Dockery.

Now, could this source be wrong? Of course, but his track record tells me it's not quite so likely

What do you all think. $24 million? Worth it?[/quote]

If the whole contract was 6 years $24 million then sure give him the $24 million bonus :D

Still based on the percentage of the signing bonus compared to the full contract value that Dockery received we'd be looking at a $65 million contract for Los. Might as well go after Nnadmi if you're willing to spend that type of money on a guy that can't catch.

[quote]Math: Dockery Contract - $18 million Bonus/$49 million contract. $18/$49 = .367. Signing bonus is 36.7% of total contract

Rogers asking price = $24 million signing bonus. 24/.367 = $65 million.[/quote]

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Reality paints a really dim picture for the immediate future of this team but, we're not looking at a desperation move to re-sign Rogers. It's more likely he will get his money somewhere else just like Dockery did.

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[quote=SmootSmack;787943]Loyal readers of TheWarpath may remember when I said this a few years ago

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/282232-post20.html[/url]



And it turned out he signed a deal with Buffalo that got included an $18 million signing bonus.

So...same source is telling me Los is asking for a $24 million signing bonus...and he's got the same agent as Dockery.

Now, could this source be wrong? Of course, but his track record tells me it's not quite so likely

What do you all think. $24 million? Worth it?[/quote]

that's a lot of bread

I guess it depends what other options we end up having

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[quote=SmootSmack;787943]Loyal readers of TheWarpath may remember when I said this a few years ago

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/282232-post20.html[/url]



And it turned out he signed a deal with Buffalo that got included an $18 million signing bonus.

So...same source is telling me Los is asking for a $24 million signing bonus...and he's got the same agent as Dockery.

Now, could this source be wrong? Of course, but his track record tells me it's not quite so likely

What do you all think. $24 million? Worth it?[/quote]


It really doesnt surprise me. I think I would have said 20 mil guarenteed would do the trick for Los before, so 24 is still high. We got a lot room with all the cap space (I know its no cap NOW) we have created cutting people clearly not worth their contract. Its much easier to make an arguement for keeping Los than others on this team. If he is asking that much and looking at player value, you gotta think the CB from Oakland wouldnt be too far from 24 mil and a better player. Or I bet if you gave 20 mil guarrentte to Ike Taylor in Pittsburg he come play for us. So I think its high, kinda surprised with all the uncertainty Los wouldnt come off that number.

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How can someone that plays with oven mitts on both hands ask for that much money?

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Sorry but Los isn't worth that much

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For that $$ I would have no problem letting #22 walk.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/08/santonio-says-hell-sign-back-with-the-jets/]Santonio says he’ll “sign back with the Jets” | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;787943]Loyal readers of TheWarpath may remember when I said this a few years ago

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/282232-post20.html[/url]



And it turned out he signed a deal with Buffalo that got included an $18 million signing bonus.

So...same source is telling me Los is asking for a $24 million signing bonus...and he's got the same agent as Dockery.

Now, could this source be wrong? Of course, but his track record tells me it's not quite so likely

What do you all think. $24 million? Worth it?[/quote]
Here's what I would offer to Rogers. We will put 24 $1 million dollar checks in 24 footballs and throw them at you in a simulated live situation. Each ball you catch cleanly, you keep the million guaranteed in your contract. If you bobble or drop it, you get nothing. How much would he get guaranteed then?

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I dont know Todd France at all but I believe he's really influencing Los (like he did Dock) these are two guys who I know want (wanted) to stay. It's a shame they seem to be letting their agent dictate their course of action when it should be the other way around

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Would be sad if he left after wanting to stay. 24 mil bonus is way too much, I was thinking about 15 at most.

Maybe the difference will be that Dock got his $18 mil. from Buffalo, but does anyone really see Los getting $24 mil in this market? Or even 20ish? I haven't taken a look at the list of free agent CBs other than Asomougha & Taylor, but I think the market in general will be too flooded & cautious for a lot of huge signings.

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On average Los should get around 4 mil a year with a 15 mil signing bonus based off his play IMO. His asking price, if true... is nutts! If he gets it somewhere, best of luck to him because we could get a better corner at that asking price.

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[quote=freddyg12;787989]Would be sad if he left after wanting to stay. 24 mil bonus is way too much, I was thinking about 15 at most.

Maybe the difference will be that Dock got his $18 mil. from Buffalo, but does anyone really see Los getting $24 mil in this market? Or even 20ish? I haven't taken a look at the list of free agent CBs other than Asomougha & Taylor, but I think the market in general will be too flooded & cautious for a lot of huge signings.[/quote]

When Dock got his contract with Buffalo there was a run on the bank for Guards. These days we have cornerback being the hot position, with "Revis island" and Charles Woodson winning defensive player of the year in 2009 while playing a major part in the Pack's Super Bowl run this past year.

Not saying that Rogers will be held up in the same esteem as those two but I feel like now more then recent years teams are willing to overpay for Corners.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/08/ndamukong-suh-lions-can-go-16-0/]Ndamukong Suh: Lions can go 16-0 | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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Any team can go 16-0.

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Seriously:

AdamSchefter

Reports are true -- it's a blast from the past. One hour ago, former Giants RB Tiki Barber filed papers to come out of retirement.
7 minutes ago

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;788075]Seriously:

AdamSchefter

Reports are true -- it's a blast from the past. One hour ago, former Giants RB Tiki Barber filed papers to come out of retirement.
7 minutes ago[/quote]

that's odd...

he could probably split time somewhere, someone will give him a look

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He will be 36 in April. 36 is not a good age for running backs.

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Talk going around that VY is drawing interest from Carolina and Miami..

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[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/03/10/nfl-labor-restraining-order/index.html]NFL free agency could happen sooner under one labor scenario - Peter King - SI.com[/url]

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So I gues FRee Agency could begin tonight at midnight

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Maybe but just because the players become FA's how many will find teams? How could any team write a Nnamdi type contract, not having any available structure to write it up under?

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Good point

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[url=http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?id=B57C5D63-9641-F307-F4ED9C01464E454B]Rib Pain A Factor In Newman's Trouble[/url]

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81ed10ca/article/eagles-coach-reid-teams-have-shown-interest-in-qb-kolb?module=HP_headlines]NFL.com news: Eagles coach Reid: Teams have shown interest in QB Kolb[/url]

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$500,000 bonus at stake for Eli Manning.

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1657/eli-manning]Eli Manning - New York Giants - 2011 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]