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[quote=44Deezel;597756]Points and wins are the only stats that matter. Ramsey had some nice stats while he was here. Hell, Brunell statted his way to a record against the Texans. But I actually think it's kind of cute that you keep defending JC. Sad and demented, but cute. And you'll have plenty to complain about next year when Campbell is backing up a rookie QB somewhere. Until then, keep taking comfort in those gaudy stats that seem to keep piling up only after the Skins are down by 2 TDs.[/quote]

And I think it is cute that you are stretching your argument to blame Campbell. Dude, just stop it...you hate Campbell, just admit it...nothing wrong with saying that you hate a player so much that you will disregard any other factors and blame him solely for the loss. I'll leave you alone if you say that.

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[quote=Beemnseven;597755]Exactly. We said they would do the same thing to the Rams after the Giants game ... then we said they'd take the Lions to the woodshed ... now we'll take the Bucs to the woodshed ...

It would be hilarious if it weren't so pathetic. This team doesn't have the paddles to take any team to the woodshed.[/quote]

Beem They hadn't lost to a team that hadn't won since 07 before that....

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[quote=Ruhskins;597760]And I think it is cute that you are stretching your argument to blame Campbell. Dude, just stop it...you hate Campbell, just admit it...nothing wrong with saying that you hate a player so much that you will disregard any other factors and blame him solely for the loss. I'll leave you alone if you say that.[/quote]
RUH

This is like the second person you've got into it with man Whats going on have a beer man keep the peace

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[quote=pg86;597762]RUH

This is like the second person you've got into it with man Whats going on have a beer man keep the peace[/quote]

I just like f'ing with people that make no sense.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;597692]Yeah, kind of like the 53 million dollar man D. Hall.[/quote]

I thought Hall had a pretty good game. Especially since he had Megatron most of the time.

They weren't running on Hall. They ran straight up the gut.

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[quote=44Deezel;597728]It's not the stats they have in common. It's the fact that they will both be back-ups next year. They'll both be forgotten in a couple of years.[/quote]

Your an idiot, JC is gonna be gone, and making us sick for losing him in a couple years.

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[quote=skinsfan69;597571]IMO we just don't have the players. We've had this group now for a while....Moss, Portis, Cooley, JC, Carter, ARE, Daniels, Griff, Landry, Samuels, Thomas, Rabach, Rogers, Smoot, Rocky...these for the most part are our core players and since they've been on the team we've been average to below average.[/quote]

Amen. But no matter how long they fail to produce, you still have many people who think these players are truly superstars, that we have "so much talent".

It's just not there folks.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;597691]I am thinking maybe we should not have been so opposed to Fossil. I would have loved to see what GW, would have done.[/quote]


On a bad day he is better than Zorn.

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[quote=Ruhskins;597764]I just like f'ing with people that make no sense.[/quote]

Campbell did not play well today, no matter what the stats look like.

I did put my Campbell autographed Proline throwback helmet up on eBay in case any of you guys who think he is the answer are interested.

[url=http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220486795321&_trkparms=tab%3DSelling]Jason Campbell Signed Auto Redskins Proline Helmet COA - eBay (item 220486795321 end time Oct-04-09 18:17:32 PDT)[/url]

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As bad as the offense has looked, what has really shocked the living day lights out of me is the poor job of our Defense. I thought, that with the off season aquisition of #92 and #98, Horton's second year, Landry would have a break out season, our PASS RUSH would've been nasty and dominating, our big play ability would've sky rocketed because of the pressure, all these expectations, all these dreams, we were going to be hard to move the ball on, hence the offense would have so much more touches, opportunities to score and we would be unstoppable. Zorn's second year, more plays able to call due to the increase knowledge, better continuity all around, more cohesiveness, Campbell's ability to make big plays would increase, the emergence of our young wideouts would finally produce T.D.'s, the passing game would've open the run game, all these illusions we fans had...My questions now, is Zorn too soft and has no leadership ability? His play calling has been gutsy, but has it been wise? Does Campbell have the heart and winners attitude to lead us during crunch time? Is Portis running with the renegade attitude that made him an elite back or is he just trying to stay injury free and avoiding contact with his lack of vision because he always dives to the ground when there is traffic. Do we have play makers who can break the big play, or do we have average players... over rated and poorly coached? So many questions, from a desperate fan, that is getting his heart gutted out and shattered to pieces every Sunday...I don't know who much more I can take of this, but I know one thing, I will not quit on them, I will continue to root, cry, cheer, and love my Skins....I just hope my son and I can experience a Super Bowl together, the last time we won was almost 18 Years ago and he was only 20 day's old when we beat the Bills, I feel bad for him, he thinks I am nut's when I tell him we were the classiest organization eons ago, we were the talk of the NFL, we were respected and teams hated to play us, because of our physical style of play on both sides of the ball....O those Glory days, how I miss them, Don't we all? I am praying and hoping we can get this ship turned around....let's not give up, it's just three games into the season, maybe this Lost will be the wake up call they needed to make some changes or ship out those pieces that are rotting out the Ship and have them sinking, there is still a glimmer of hope in the horizon, I can barely see it, but it's there. I don't think we are as bad as we look, I think we are just a few peaces away from turning this baby around, the problem is, which are those peaces?

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[quote=Patfisher37;597773]As bad as the offense has looked, what has really shocked the living day lights out of me is the poor job of our Defense. I thought, that with the off season aquisition of #92 and #98, Horton's second year, Landry would have a break out season, our PASS RUSH would've been nasty and dominating, our big play ability would've sky rocketed because of the pressure, all these expectations, all these dreams, we were going to be hard to move the ball on, hence the offense would have so much more touches, opportunities to score and we would be unstoppable. Zorn's second year, more plays able to call due to the increase knowledge, better continuity all around, more cohesiveness, Campbell's ability to make big plays would increase, the emergence of our young wideouts would finally produce T.D.'s, the passing game would've open the run game, all these illusions we fans had...My questions now, is Zorn too soft and has no leadership ability? His play calling has been gutsy, but has it been wise? Does Campbell have the heart and winners attitude to lead us during crunch time? Is Portis running with the renegade attitude that made him an elite back or is he just trying to stay injury free and avoiding contact with his lack of vision because he always dives to the ground when there is traffic. Do we have play makers who can break the big play, or do we have average players... over rated and poorly coached? So many questions, from a desperate fan, that is getting his heart gutted out and shattered to pieces every Sunday...I don't know who much more I can take of this, but I know one thing, I will not quit on them, I will continue to root, cry, cheer, and love my Skins....I just hope my son and I can experience a Super Bowl together, the last time we won was almost 18 Years ago and he was only 20 day's old when we beat the Bills, I feel bad for him, he thinks I am nut's when I tell him we were the classiest organization eons ago, we were the talk of the NFL, we were respected and teams hated to play us, because of our physical style of play on both sides of the ball....O those Glory days, how I miss them, Don't we all? I am praying and hoping we can get this ship turned around....let's not give up, it's just three games into the season, maybe this Lost will be the wake up call they needed to make some changes or ship out those pieces that are rotting out the Ship and have them sinking, there is still a glimmer of hope in the horizon, I can barely see it, but it's there. I don't think we are as bad as we look, I think we are just a few peaces away from turning this baby around, the problem is, which are those peaces?[/quote]


God bless you man...

I would maybe read this if it wasn't your first post ever. Way too long for me to take time out to read this.

Build your post count some before you take on something this volumous.

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[quote=44Deezel;597747]I have a great idea. Let's make JC the coach and bring in a quality QB who knows how to get his team in the end zone when it's not garbage time. Preferably someone who can throw a fade pass and keep the ball in-bounds and someone who can sense a pass rush before it's up his ass. Ideally, someone who can actually take a few steps in the pocket and still throw with at least a little accuracy.[/quote]


This was more of an attack on JZ than an endorsement for Jason. I agree with you about JC. I know he has a real problem finding anyone other than the guy hes looking at when he hikes the ball. I know he can't feel the pocket. Hell he has had his fumblitis return again this year, and all of the other short comings Jason has that you listed above. I'm not a huge fan of his anymore, I liked the pick when we drafted him, I really wanted Jason to succeed at this point I just dont think he will here in Washington.

Jim Zorn needs to find himself as a leader of the team. He seems way over his head right now.

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[quote=Ruhskins;597760]And I think it is cute that you are stretching your argument to blame Campbell. Dude, just stop it...you hate Campbell, just admit it...nothing wrong with saying that you hate a player so much that you will disregard any other factors and blame him solely for the loss. I'll leave you alone if you say that.[/quote]

I'll say it. eff Jason Campbell. The time for making excuses for his football dropping ass is over. Like him or not, he's done. Whether it's in the next few games or at the end of the season, hit the bricks punk!

If Snyder's stupid ass isn't making draft choices then he needs to fire who is. Our offensive line stinks. AH isn't worth the money, neither is Hall, and Jim Zorn is a effing joke.

Daniel Snyder, I hope you're reading this. (I know you're really not) I hope you got all the money you could out of that little old lady! You'll never get a bloody effing dime from me again. No tickets, no hats, no stickers, no penants, nothing! The only thing I want is a little time; time to stick my foot deep in your sweet little ass, you grifter SOB!

I'd buy that for a dollar!

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;597780]I'll say it. eff Jason Campbell. The time for making excuses for his football dropping ass is over. Like him or not, he's done. Whether it's in the next few games or at the end of the season, hit the bricks punk!

If Snyder's stupid ass isn't making draft choices then he needs to fire who is. Our offensive line stinks. AH isn't worth the money, neither is Hall, and Jim Zorn is a effing joke.

Daniel Snyder, I hope you're reading this. (I know you're really not) I hope you got all the money you could out of that little old lady! You'll never get a bloody effing dime from me again. No tickets, no hats, no stickers, no penants, nothing! The only thing I want is a little time; time to stick my foot deep in your sweet little ass, you grifter SOB!

I'd buy that for a dollar![/quote]

LOL. Great post. Our team as a whole sucks. As I said, the team needs to be blown up and start from scratch. I just like to f with people who think that if we just replace one player (i.e. Jason Campbell) everything is going to be fine. I'm sure a new coach will bring a new QB...and maybe a new RB.

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[quote=Beemnseven;597769]Amen. But no matter how long they fail to produce, you still have many people who think these players are truly superstars, that we have "so much talent".

It's just not there folks.[/quote]

Thats cause we are just one player away. ;)

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;597780]I'll say it. eff Jason Campbell. The time for making excuses for his football dropping ass is over. Like him or not, he's done. Whether it's in the next few games or at the end of the season, hit the bricks punk!

If Snyder's stupid ass isn't making draft choices then he needs to fire who is. Our offensive line stinks. AH isn't worth the money, neither is Hall, and Jim Zorn is a effing joke.

Daniel Snyder, I hope you're reading this. (I know you're really not) I hope you got all the money you could out of that little old lady! [B]You'll never get a bloody effing dime from me again. No tickets, no hats, no stickers, no penants, nothing! The only thing I want is a little time; time to stick my foot deep in your sweet little ass, you grifter SOB! [/B]

[B]I'd buy that for a dollar[/B]![/quote]

I like the tenacity there.

If you have been buying those things he has a lot of your money already so you could be pot committed.

How do you know that snyder has a sweet ass? Awfully detailed information there : )

Then you ended it with a little Robocop reference there...lol...nice.

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Welcome PAtfisher! I read it. Not bad.. make a few paragraphs. I feel your pain though I'm right there with ya.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;597784]I like the tenacity there.

If you have been buying those things he has a lot of your money already so you could be pot committed.

How do you know that snyder has a sweet ass? Awefully detailed information there : )

Then you ended it with a little Robocop reference there...lol...nice.[/quote]

He hangs with Tom Cruise, enough said.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;597786]He hangs with Tom Cruise, enough said.[/quote]

You're DANGEROUS Maverick!

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[quote=Patfisher37;597773]As bad as the offense has looked, what has really shocked the living day lights out of me is the poor job of our Defense. I thought, that with the off season aquisition of #92 and #98, Horton's second year, Landry would have a break out season, our PASS RUSH would've been nasty and dominating, our big play ability would've sky rocketed because of the pressure, all these expectations, all these dreams, we were going to be hard to move the ball on, hence the offense would have so much more touches, opportunities to score and we would be unstoppable. Zorn's second year, more plays able to call due to the increase knowledge, better continuity all around, more cohesiveness, Campbell's ability to make big plays would increase, the emergence of our young wideouts would finally produce T.D.'s, the passing game would've open the run game, all these illusions we fans had...My questions now, is Zorn too soft and has no leadership ability? His play calling has been gutsy, but has it been wise? Does Campbell have the heart and winners attitude to lead us during crunch time? Is Portis running with the renegade attitude that made him an elite back or is he just trying to stay injury free and avoiding contact with his lack of vision because he always dives to the ground when there is traffic. Do we have play makers who can break the big play, or do we have average players... over rated and poorly coached? So many questions, from a desperate fan, that is getting his heart gutted out and shattered to pieces every Sunday...I don't know who much more I can take of this, but I know one thing, I will not quit on them, I will continue to root, cry, cheer, and love my Skins....I just hope my son and I can experience a Super Bowl together, the last time we won was almost 18 Years ago and he was only 20 day's old when we beat the Bills, I feel bad for him, he thinks I am nut's when I tell him we were the classiest organization eons ago, we were the talk of the NFL, we were respected and teams hated to play us, because of our physical style of play on both sides of the ball....O those Glory days, how I miss them, Don't we all? I am praying and hoping we can get this ship turned around....let's not give up, it's just three games into the season, maybe this Lost will be the wake up call they needed to make some changes or ship out those pieces that are rotting out the Ship and have them sinking, there is still a glimmer of hope in the horizon, I can barely see it, but it's there. I don't think we are as bad as we look, I think we are just a few peaces away from turning this baby around, the problem is, which are those peaces?[/quote]


Welcome!


to super happy funville Redskinsland :frusty:

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[quote=Ruhskins;597782]LOL. Great post. Our team as a whole sucks. As I said, the team needs to be blown up and start from scratch. I just like to f with people who think that if we just replace one player (i.e. Jason Campbell) everything is going to be fine. I'm sure a new coach will bring a new QB...and maybe a new RB.[/quote]

I hate to say it, but Clinton doesnt run hard or see the field very well anymore. Thats three games and no production. Good backs find some room. I've seen room for him to run and his choices of lanes this year have been poor. Love you Portis but something is wrong with you to.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;597790]I hate to say it, but Clinton doesnt run hard or see the field very well anymore. Thats three games and no production. Good backs find some room. I've seen room for him to run and his choices of lanes this year have been poor. Love you Portis but something is wrong with you to.[/quote]

The run blocking has been a straight joke and yes Portis looks really bad as well. It's a strong cocktail of suck.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;597786]He hangs with Tom Cruise, enough said.[/quote]

We always lose when that bastard is at the game. From the monday nighter to the playoff game in Seatle in 07. That dude is bad news. FU$# Scientology. Bad Juju BAd Juju.. Tom you suck

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[quote=Ruhskins;597375]What about Clinton Portis? I mean this dude is getting paid all this money, is always banged up, never practices, and does little in the preseason...he's a non-factor this season. Shit, at least the o-line is good enough to get Campbell to throw over 300 yds.[/quote]

So you had to dump your avatar?

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Are people revolting against the Skins by changing their avatar? lol

I'm doing my part, just waiting for them to put Brennan in. Yah baby!

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;597790]I hate to say it, but Clinton doesnt run hard or see the field very well anymore. Thats three games and no production. Good backs find some room. I've seen room for him to run and his choices of lanes this year have been poor. Love you Portis but something is wrong with you to.[/quote]

I mentioned that somewhere and people came down on me for saying it. Like I said, we need to start from scratch, it is not a one-person f'up, the team as a whole are f'ing things up. I know it is easier said than done, but they need to rebuild.

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hahaha.. there you guys go one man to blame it all on: Tom Cruise.. That fukin bastard.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;597776]God bless you man...

I would maybe read this if it wasn't your first post ever. Way too long for me to take time out to read this.

Build your post count some before you take on something this volumous.[/quote]

It was a good read even though jammed all together. Paragraphs are your friend, 3-5 sentences. ;)

I agreed with everything he said except the end when he mentions we are only a few pieces away from being great. Unfortunatly we have been that way since 1994. :(

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[quote=SkinDogg;597793]So you had to dump your avatar?[/quote]

I like it.

I did the same...but I kept the red color for ol' DC.


Thanks for the inspriation Ruhskins

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[quote=DynamiteRave;597795]Are people revolting against the Skins by changing their avatar? lol

I'm doing my part, just waiting for them to put Brennan in. Yah baby![/quote]

It's the little things that count, just like Danny's pea sized brain.

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Ruh I have been thinking that since after the first half of the Giants game. Just really didn't want to express it yet thinking CP would get on a roll, but this teamTEAM AS A WHOLE is having a huge problem running the football.

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[quote=SkinDogg;597793]So you had to dump your avatar?[/quote]

I actually had that specific Portis avatar because no one else seemed to have it. Getting rid of a Redskins avatar was my way of protesting the team's awful season.

[quote=Skinny Tee;597801]I like it.

I did the same...but I kept the red color for ol' DC.


Thanks for the inspriation Ruhskins[/quote]

No problem. The funny thing is that I'm sure people would tell you here that I'm a Kool-Aid drinker.

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[quote=Ruhskins;597798]I mentioned that somewhere and people came down on me for saying it. Like I said, we need to start from scratch, it is not a one-person f'up, the team as a whole are f'ing things up. I know it is easier said than done, but they need to rebuild.[/quote]

No complaints here. Ya know when there's a problem employee and the business gets rid of him but his cancer has already spread. Then they bring in a new person yet the same problems persist. I have been wondering if this is partially our problem. Although I don't know who the problem could be. Could it be Portis with his strong friendship with DS? I don't know just throwing a name out there.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;597808]Ruh I have been thinking that since after the first half of the Giants game. Just really didn't want to express it yet thinking CP would get on a roll, but this teamTEAM AS A WHOLE is having a huge problem running the football.[/quote]

I was thinking the same thing. I can't figure out what wrong with the running game if it is Portis, the oline, or a combination of both.

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Canning Zorn would automatically trash the season, besides at this point everyone needs to go, Blache, special teams coach, even Bugel. I know folks hold Bugel in high esteem because of the hogs, but come on, what has this guy done during his second tenure? It is easy being considered a great coach pre cap, pre FA when you have the best line in probably NFL history playing for you year in and year for a decade.

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[quote=redskinsgirl;597821]I was thinking the same thing. I can't figure out what wrong with the running game if it is Portis, the oline, or a combination of both.[/quote]


From what I saw at the game it was a combo of the two. Portis didn't have too many gaps to run into today, but he also seemed to change direction sometimes actually running into defenders. I would have to rest most of the blame with the line though.

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[quote=Ruhskins;597798]I mentioned that somewhere and people came down on me for saying it. Like I said, we need to start from scratch, it is not a one-person f'up, the team as a whole are f'ing things up. I know it is easier said than done, but they need to rebuild.[/quote]

Portis has definitely lost a step or two.

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[quote=redskinsgirl;597821]I was thinking the same thing. I can't figure out what wrong with the running game if it is Portis, the oline, or a combination of both.[/quote]

Well when you run every first and second down and then run behind only Samuels it isn't that hard to game plan against us.

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[quote=redskinsgirl;597821]I was thinking the same thing. I can't figure out what wrong with the running game if it is Portis, the oline, or a combination of both.[/quote]

A combination of both, but to that end Portis use to find six yard here and there with his fied vision and instict. This year he runs into the pile and takes bad running lanes.

It is aso a problem with his and Synder's relationship, and also to the idea of getting rid of him he is tied up in a very HIGH contact that would basically eliminate any kind of trade or release.

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[quote=12thMan;597836]Portis has definitely lost a step or two.[/quote]

Yup, but he sure as hell hasn't lost a dime though.