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[quote=punch it in;1355679]But in that position when a fg will keep u within a score you cant rush it. Take the sack. Hold onto the ball. You cannot just chuck it. Which is what it sounds like happened.[/quote]

I watched Browning do that in the red zone for Cincy to save a FG instead of trying to force it in the first quarter. Game IQ

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1355742]I watched Browning do that in the red zone for Cincy to save a FG instead of trying to force it in the first quarter. Game IQ[/quote]

Trouble is it seems the coaches ( and media and fans) have been pounding the idea of not taking sacks into Howell that his play took a no dive as soon as he gave into that idea

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1355745]Trouble is it seems the coaches ( and media and fans) have been pounding the idea of not taking sacks into Howell that his play took a no dive as soon as he gave into that idea[/quote]

This cuz the line n howell at times gave up too many

Re: Forty whiners vs lackeymanders
 

I’ve watched every game except this one. Today I went to brunch with my coworkers, got lit and barely thought about the Commies. It was nice.

I’ll be back to my masochism for the last game.


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[quote=DynamiteRave;1355757]I’ve watched every game except this one. Today I went to brunch with my coworkers, got lit and barely thought about the Commies. It was nice.

I’ll be back to my masochism for the last game.


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Dallas will need the win, we will get trounced. Better to get lit and barely think about it (of course I will probably not follow my own advice)

Re: Forty whiners vs lackeymanders
 

Sam was a tease today. He made his first big boy throw to a WR beyond 40 yards. Then he shits the bed with terrible INTs.

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[quote=jamf;1355765]Sam was a tease today. He made his first big boy throw to a WR beyond 40 yards. Then he shits the bed with terrible INTs.[/quote]

Sam isn't the man but those two interceptions occurred because he was hit when he threw the ball.

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[quote=nonniey;1355767]Sam isn't the man but those two interceptions occurred because he was hit when he threw the ball.[/quote]


He was only playing in his first full season in a insanely pass happy offense with a below average offensive line.....I think Sam's the guy and the offense needs to be constructed around him so he can truly settle in.....but there's no guarantee the new GM and HC rolls with him.
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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1355791]He was only playing in his first full season in a insanely pass happy offense with a below average offensive line.....[B]I think Sam's the guy[/B] and the offense needs to be constructed around him so he can truly settle in.....but there's no guarantee the new GM and HC rolls with him.
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Maybe he is, maybe he isn't.

This team probably wins 4-6 more games if not for the colossal collapse on the defensive side this year. Sam's not going anywhere, but it would be tough to pass on one of the top 2 QBs in the draft. If I were a betting man, I would bet that the new regime drafts CW, DM, or JD. Sam & one of them battle it out for QB1.

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I'd say it was nailed on we'll take a QB with our 1st pick. I mean, they might get a trade offer to consider, but the new guys can't be the idiots RR etc. have been in assessing value and available talent. So it would have to be a fantastic offer to give up what looks likely to be the #2 overall. And if it is a fantastic offer and they believe it means they can load up the roster in year 1 around Howell, I'm good with that too. If nothing else, what the 49ers have shown this owner first hand is how to use the draft, trades and FA wisely to build a solid roster (with just the Lance debacle as a black mark). Just like the Ravens, the organisation Harris espouses he wants to emulate. Lets hope he gets his wish.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1355795]Maybe he is, maybe he isn't.

This team probably wins 4-6 more games if not for the colossal collapse on the defensive side this year. Sam's not going anywhere, but it would be tough to pass on one of the top 2 QBs in the draft. If I were a betting man, I would bet that the new regime drafts CW, DM, or JD. Sam & one of them battle it out for QB1.[/quote]

If you are picking a QB that high there will be no battle. Howell will be the backup, but I wonder whether he will be a trade chip at the deadline if a contending team loses its QB early in the season and gets desperate.

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Unless it was a really good offer that would make little sense. We know Howell is capable, even if he only ever ends up a backup. He's very cheap and probably warrants extending then trading down the line when his trade value is possibly higher. And he's tough; ideal quality in a backup.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1355745]Trouble is it seems the coaches ( and media and fans) have been pounding the idea of not taking sacks into Howell that his play took a no dive as soon as he gave into that idea[/quote]

I have to agree, Pritchard has not done Howell any favors. It shouldn't be too hard to teach a QB with Sam's arm strength to turn and throw the ball out of bounds and one yard from the LOS. Especially within 1 second and from shotgun

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1355801]I'd say it was nailed on we'll take a QB with our 1st pick. I mean, they might get a trade offer to consider, but the new guys can't be the idiots RR etc. have been in assessing value and available talent. So it would have to be a fantastic offer to give up what looks likely to be the #2 overall. And if it is a fantastic offer and they believe it means they can load up the roster in year 1 around Howell, I'm good with that too. If nothing else, what the 49ers have shown this owner first hand is how to use the draft, trades and FA wisely to build a solid roster (with just the Lance debacle as a black mark). Just like the Ravens, the organisation Harris espouses he wants to emulate. Lets hope he gets his wish.[/quote]

It is very likely that whoever will be GM does not view QB1 currently on the roster. Right now there are a lot of options including rolling with Sam and they all give me hope.
Draft a top QB prospect
If they have a willing trade partner, trade back and still get a guy you like later in the first with additional draft capitol
or trade back with a willing trade partner take a flier on a late round QB and roll the dice again as we build roster through the draft.

We could have the same record next year as we did this year but the team and season could be enjoyable to watch.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1355795]Maybe he is, maybe he isn't.

This team probably wins 4-6 more games if not for the colossal collapse on the defensive side this year. Sam's not going anywhere, but it would be tough to pass on one of the top 2 QBs in the draft. If I were a betting man, I would bet that the new regime drafts CW, DM, or JD. Sam & one of them battle it out for QB1.[/quote]

Agreed