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Emmanuel Forbes

Forbes tied the FBS record for pick-sixes with six throughout his career. Of the corners I’ve seen in the draft, Forbes has the best overall ball skills and is a very difficult player to track down once he secures the football. He was a former wide receiver at Grenada High School, which is obvious when watching his natural ability to pluck the ball out of the air.

A cornerback who knows how to create turnovers is crucial in the NFL, Quarterback’s clocks are accelerated, and Forbes has the athletic ability and length (6-foot-1, 32¼-inch arms with a 79-inch wingspan) to be a nuisance at the catch point in one-on-one situations.



The outlier trait with Forbes is the weight - he’s only 166 pounds, placing him at a zero percentile weight by NFL standards. He’s very thin and a bit high-cut at the waist. However, his ball production in the SEC was very impressive. 14 interceptions and 20 passes defended.

Forbes made an immediate impact on Mississippi State as a freshman in 2020. He played over 700 snaps in three consecutive seasons for the Bulldogs, with a combined 57.6% catch rate. He was a Second-Team All-American in 2022, a Freshman All-SEC selection in 2020, and was Second-Team All-SEC in 2021. He played man and zone coverage for Mississippi State and had good man coverage tape against Alabama’s Jameson Williams in 2021. Here’s my synopsis:

Emmanual Forbes has the most pick sixes in FBS history - wow! Forbes is a ball-hawk with length and coverage versatility. His size at 166 pounds is concerning and is in the zero percentile for weight at the position; still, the 22-year-old offers immense upside for a player who has experience handling many different coverages and techniques at the LOS.

He’s not the strongest in run support or while tackling, but it’s not due to a lack of desire. Forbes is an elite competitor who comported himself well playing against some of the top players in the SEC. I do understand the weight concerns, but the NFL is transitioning to smaller - quicker - types of athletes. Is it still a concern, sure…but it’s not nearly as big of an issue as it would have been ten years ago.

Creating turnovers is the most important part of playing defense, and Forbes was elite in this manner throughout his three seasons at Mississippi State. I wouldn’t be shocked to see Forbes selected in the back end of the first round, despite his outlier weight.

However, I love the upside and the traits displayed by Forbes - it really just comes down to adding weight and strength to his game. I’ll say this though...in terms of coverage, Forbes was stronger than I anticipated for a 166-pound cornerback.

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Watching Todd McShay discussing Levis falling out of the 1st round and he mentioned some teams stating he came off as arrogant. No surprise, as he's publicly said he has a cannon for an arm. Act like a deusche nozzle, get drafted like a deusche nozzle.

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1341213]Mel Kiper's hair gel is going to burst on fire because Levis hasn't been picked.

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This is fucking hysterical.

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So if he is there at 47, I still want OL.


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[quote=calia;1341233]So if he is there at 47, I still want OL.


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Looking at the picks ahead , I bet he will be unless ATL grabs him

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I think AR15 was a HUGE Gamble but if he hits the Colts look like the smartest team.. 13 games played and only 17 TDs that's tough

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1341249]Looking at the picks ahead , I bet he will be unless ATL grabs him[/quote]

DET could grab him or NE

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I see reports that D'Andre Swift may be surplus to requirements in Detroit now that Gibbs has arrived. Any takers?

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[quote=nonniey;1341215]The reasons he was a big reach is that there was a consensus steal at the same position. Additionally the consensus had Forbes ranked as the 4-5th ranked CB which means more likely than not he would have been available 10-20 picks lower. IMO that combined with passing on the consensus steal makes it a big reach.

That said reaches can work out and steals can flop but you're not playing the odds well if you are going for the reach.[/quote]

A CB who played in the SEC, its being reported he has bulked up to 180lbs right now. There is no guarantee he would be there 10 picks lower, not to mention its better to go get your guy a few picks earlier than 1 pick too late. Forbes is definitely a 1st round talent. So him being taken mid first round wasnt a reach at all. He is also a ballhawk which we havent had for years.

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[quote=nonniey;1341229]If he does he'd still be tiny.[/quote]

Sounds like you just wanna be negative for the sake of being negative.

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O’cyrus Torrence, Steve Avila, Cody Mauch.

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Today it’s all about landing an Oline piece.

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I would like them to draft Avila. But Schmitz, Torrence or Dawan Jones would be good too.

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[quote=Chico23231;1341261]Today it’s all about landing an Oline piece.[/quote]
There are 3 good OGs (Torrence, Avila and Schmitz) similarly ranked with high 2d round grades. Hopefully one of them will drop. That said if Levis is still there you have to consider him as he has a mid 1st round grade and would be a steal at 47.

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Jalen Ramsey on Twitter

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Nice endorsement. Heard sone negatives about Gonzalez, great athelete with very high ceiling but not a great football player right now, instincts and play diagnosis are a step slow, so somewhat of a low floor. Would explain why he was passed on by a number of CB needy teams before the Commanders picked