Re: Redskins Sign S Brandon Meriweather
 

[quote=SirClintonPortis;899545]Come on guys, let's make merry and enjoy the merry weather.

/bad puns[/quote]


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Re: Redskins Sign S Brandon Meriweather
 

[quote=Paintrain;899540]I agree that we could have moved more quickly on Lowery and/or Pool but I don't question the FO for not retaining Landry or Atogwe. Landry has missed far more games than he's played the past two seasons and has bucked team medical advice. Right or wrong, that would raise questions of loyalty and responsibility to me, not to mention long term durability.

For Atogwe, he was rarely healthy, coming off of a couple of seasons where he was less than 100% healthy as well. Also, when he played his performance was subpar.

If we were responsible for '2 of the 5 best safeties on the market' as you stated, that has a lot to say about the quality of the market and not much bad to say about us.[/quote]I can say that the decision to not slap the Franchise Tag on Landry raised a LOT of eyebrows across the league. I mean, it's one thing to determine the safeties are the main reason we had poor pass defense (I don't disagree -- particularly when Landry was out), it's another thing to fear a player in the prime of his career so much you let him walk for nothing. He's damaged goods, so he's probably not going to get guaranteed money in excess of $8 million, but still. With all the options the Redskins had to keep Landry around, it's safe to say they would have released him even if he had a year left on his contract.

The way we as fans felt when Eric Winston got cut? That's how other teams felt when Landry didn't get the tag.

Atogwe was the kind of guy who you don't cut if you don't like the market, but move on from if you have a better option.

I do think they view Meriweather more of a Landry replacement than an Atogwe replacement.

A lot of the Landry issue comes down to who you trust to recommend the best interest of his future: Landry and his doctors, or the Redskins and their doctors. I know a lot of teams with medical staffs who would be very happy to get their hands on our 'problem' at a medical discount.

Re: Redskins Sign S Brandon Meriweather
 

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A lot of the Landry issue comes down to who you trust to recommend the best interest of his future: Landry and his doctors, or the Redskins and their doctors. [B] I know a lot of teams with medical staffs who would be very happy to get their hands on our 'problem' at a medical discount.[/B][/quote]

Link?

Re: Redskins Sign S Brandon Meriweather
 

[quote=The Goat;899588]Link?[/quote]You're not going to find other teams information on the internet.

Re: Redskins Sign S Brandon Meriweather
 

If people are this fed up with the team then maybe is time to seek another team to follow. [B]And I try to say that in the most respectable way.[/B] In my opinion I have seen worst decisions made by this team in the past (McNabb, Haynesworth, TJ Duckett, Spurrier, Archuleta, etc., etc.) But if signing Pierre Garcon, Josh Morgan, and Brandon Merriweather are what cause fans to boil and lose it...then maybe nothing the team will do satisfy you. Just my humble opinion.

Although I will admit that I have no season tickets, so I don't have a lot of money invested/tied to this team. So maybe that changes my perception.

Re: Redskins Sign S Brandon Meriweather
 

Merriweather is simply another stop gap saftey. If a late round gem is found in this year's draft, he'll be replaced. If not, June 1st cuts or next year's off-season may yield a better option.

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[quote=GTripp0012;899595]You're not going to find other teams information on the internet.[/quote]

Oh right...so you're aware of all the interest in LL how then?

C'mon dude, let's hope Meriweather can turn things around here w/ a great DB coach. My assumption is Morris has significant input on our secondary now, so he probably thinks Meriweather can do something here. Let's give them both a shot.

Re: Redskins Sign S Brandon Meriweather
 

[quote=RGIII;899603]Merriweather is simply another stop gap saftey. If a late round gem is found in this year's draft, he'll be replaced. If not, June 1st cuts or next year's off-season may yield a better option.[/quote]

Excellent summary.

Re: Redskins Sign S Brandon Meriweather
 

[quote=GTripp0012;899573]I can say that the decision to not slap the Franchise Tag on Landry raised a LOT of eyebrows across the league. I mean, it's one thing to determine the safeties are the main reason we had poor pass defense (I don't disagree -- particularly when Landry was out), it's another thing to fear a player in the prime of his career so much you let him walk for nothing. He's damaged goods, so he's probably not going to get guaranteed money in excess of $8 million, but still. With all the options the Redskins had to keep Landry around, it's safe to say they would have released him even if he had a year left on his contract.

The way we as fans felt when Eric Winston got cut? That's how other teams felt when Landry didn't get the tag.

Atogwe was the kind of guy who you don't cut if you don't like the market, but move on from if you have a better option.

I do think they view Meriweather more of a Landry replacement than an Atogwe replacement.

A lot of the Landry issue comes down to who you trust to recommend the best interest of his future: Landry and his doctors, or the Redskins and their doctors. I know a lot of teams with medical staffs who would be very happy to get their hands on our 'problem' at a medical discount.[/quote]

I like that Mike Shanahan is decisive. I neither know nor care why MS doesn't want Atogwe and Landry on his team. If Mike decides that a player should go, then I'm fine with his getting rid of that player and moving on to someone else as quickly as he can. I trust his judgement. You apparently don't.

It seems to me that you don't think that Redskins management is performing their due diligence and making well-reasoned judgments and decisions about players. I do.

I think that they have a plan that they are executing in a professional manner. We'll know soon enough if the plan works. That's really all I care about.

Next season, Mike will be judged on wins and losses and not on individual player transactions. It's his job to build a winner and it's strictly a pass/fail test based on how many wins Dan Snyder considers acceptable.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;899636]I like that Mike Shanahan is decisive. I neither know nor care why MS doesn't want Atogwe and Landry on his team. If Mike decides that a player should go, then I'm fine with his getting rid of that player and moving on to someone else as quickly as he can. I trust his judgement. You apparently don't.

Next season, Mike will be judged on wins and losses and not on individual player transactions. It's his job to build a winner and it's strictly a pass/fail test based on how many wins Dan Snyder considers acceptable.[/quote]I can't think of one reason why I would trust his judgment on defensive backs if all the evidence were to suggest he's making an error.

But yes, I also believe how you build your team in the offseason is only a little bit related to who wins the big game at the end of the year, so if he comes out like the game coach he was in 2005 and wins 10 games, no one -- least of which myself -- will care how good or bad the defense was.

If his gamble is he can outscore everyone he plays, he has more than enough clout to make the gamble. He just has to win it.

Re: Redskins Sign S Brandon Meriweather
 

another great move by the FO .. always like this dude ... gotta have some "U" love

Re: Redskins Sign S Brandon Meriweather
 

[quote=GTripp0012;899573][B]I can say that the decision to not slap the Franchise Tag on Landry raised a LOT of eyebrows across the league. [/B] I mean, it's one thing to determine the safeties are the main reason we had poor pass defense (I don't disagree -- particularly when Landry was out), it's another thing to fear a player in the prime of his career so much you let him walk for nothing. He's damaged goods, so he's probably not going to get guaranteed money in excess of $8 million, but still. With all the options the Redskins had to keep Landry around, it's safe to say they would have released him even if he had a year left on his contract.

The way we as fans felt when Eric Winston got cut? That's how other teams felt when Landry didn't get the tag.

Atogwe was the kind of guy who you don't cut if you don't like the market, but move on from if you have a better option.

I do think they view Meriweather more of a Landry replacement than an Atogwe replacement.

A lot of the Landry issue comes down to who you trust to recommend the best interest of his future: Landry and his doctors, or the Redskins and their doctors. I know a lot of teams with medical staffs who would be very happy to get their hands on our 'problem' at a medical discount.[/quote]

It did?

It was no big secret the tag was going to be put on Davis or LL, and most were leaning toward it being Davis.

And if he is such a premium player, why is he still on the market?

Re: Redskins Sign S Brandon Meriweather
 

would love to see Brandon Meriweather bounce back to his earlier form a few years ago. Hopefully, he will learn not to freelance so much, allowing big pass plays to happen. That was the knock on him from what I remember. I for one really like Landry but it didn't seem that he really wanted to be in DC and didn't like how he wasn't listening to the doctors.

Re: Redskins Sign S Brandon Meriweather
 

[quote=Mattyk;899653]It did?

It was no big secret the tag was going to be put on Davis or LL, and most were leaning toward it being Davis.

And if he is such a premium player, why is he still on the market?[/quote]He's taking visits?

He's picking from four teams, Meriweather had just two visits.

Mario Williams signed today, but that doesn't mean I'd take Frostee Rucker over him, who signed yesterday.

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[quote=exit0;899654]would love to see Brandon Meriweather bounce back to his earlier form a few years ago. Hopefully, he will learn not to freelance so much, allowing big pass plays to happen. That was the knock on him from what I remember. I for one really like Landry but it didn't seem that he really wanted to be in DC and didn't like how he wasn't listening to the doctors.[/quote]

I had hope for him since the redskins drafted him. The times I liked Landry's performances though were- when he was playing with Sean Taylor and in the games he played in 2010. There doesn't seem to be a lot of options in fa or the draft for a redskins problem position(s).