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Jontrem 05-03-2011 08:48 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;800730]I think you're trying too hard to rationalize a simple concept, they kept trading down to acquire more picks for a team in dire need of players, simple as that.[/quote]

Ok I can see that, I sometimes miss the forest for the trees. I was driving all through the second and third round and listening to it on my phone, without being able to actually see some draft boards it just seemed like some of the trade backs were excessive. However I am nowhere near as well versed in the draft as some of you let alone Shanny and Allen obviously.

Chico23231 05-03-2011 09:52 AM

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[quote=Son Of Man;800700]Killing time at the dentist today, I drew out our 3-4 defensive personnel on paper today and came away mildly impressed.

RDE- Jenkins, NT- Bryant/Neild, LDE- Carriker
ROLB- Rak, ILB- Fletcher, ILB- Riley/Henson, LOLB- Kerrigan
FS- Otogwe, SS- Landry
CB- Hall, Barnes, Brandyn Thompson

*And this is without resigning our guys (Los) and before adding FA. Pretty good if you ask me.[/quote]

Doesnt look bad, but CB is an epic fail with that line up. Experienced CB is needed...Carlos, Ike Taylor, or Nnamdi Asomugha...any would really work.

MTK 05-03-2011 10:00 AM

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We could still bring back Buchanon at corner too. And once Rogers sees his true value on the open market, perhaps he comes back as well.

Bakerman 05-03-2011 10:34 AM

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First time in 7 years I'm excited about what may happen with the Skins.

FO did a great job. Lots of youth, didn't waste a truckload of $$ on a overpaid a-hole.
I am actually beginning to believe again.

HTTR!

redsk1 05-03-2011 10:44 AM

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FWIW, Chris Landry, former NFL Scout had good things to say about the Skins draft. In summary:

Kerrigan is going to be very, very good
Liked the value picks, Robinson, Thompson, etc
Paul- good return guy, physical, should help on ST
Helu-should fit Shanny's system

He said he doesn't grade drafts but really, really liked what the Skins did.

gafinfan 05-03-2011 12:28 PM

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As one who looked at your draft from afar you guys did great! I am truly impressed with what B. Allen and Shanny were able to pull off. They out wheeled and dealed the best wheeler/dealer in the FB business in Belichick IMVHO. Great draft! You had the best draft in the last 10-15 years and I believe it will show up on the field this year! Shanny is a hell of a coach don't sell him short!

Great going guys, I only wish I could say the same about the Dolphins - if anything we took another step back and I feel will be in the Luck Lottery forsure!

KI Skins Fan 05-03-2011 12:33 PM

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[quote=gafinfan;800859]As one who looked at your draft from afar you guys did great! I am truly impressed with what B. Allen and Shanny were able to pull off. They out wheeled and dealed the best wheeler/dealer in the FB business in Belichick IMVHO. Great draft! You had the best draft in the last 10-15 years and I believe it will show up on the field this year! Shanny is a hell of a coach don't sell him short!

Great going guys, I only wish I could say the same about the Dolphins - if anything we took another step back and I feel will be in the Luck Lottery forsure![/quote]

Thanks for posting, Mrs. Shanahan! Enjoy the rest of your vacation and we'll see you back in D.C. soon.

Chico23231 05-03-2011 12:50 PM

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[quote=redsk1;800819]FWIW, [B]Chris Landry[/B], former NFL Scout had good things to say about the Skins draft. In summary:

Kerrigan is going to be very, very good
Liked the value picks, Robinson, Thompson, etc
Paul- good return guy, physical, should help on ST
Helu-should fit Shanny's system

He said he doesn't grade drafts but really, really liked what the Skins did.[/quote]


Landry is an effing pimp. I always catch him on sports radio round here. Out of all the so called experts, he is usually the most correct...guy used to run the combine and he still may work as a consultant for some teams.

MTK 05-03-2011 12:55 PM

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Yeah Landry is pretty well respected

GTripp0012 05-03-2011 01:10 PM

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Defensive line still looks like a trouble area, but that wasn't going to be a one year rebuild anyway. We did what we needed to do in the first season. Linebacker, once Rocky goes elsewhere, looks like the strength of our defensive unit. Secondary will be a force in run defense (against last year when they were a weakness), and they'll be bad in coverage unless the pass rush takes a big step forward, which it may.

The defense will probably be average to slightly below average in 2011.

skinsfaninok 05-03-2011 02:28 PM

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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-cole_2011_nfc_draft_grades_050111]2011 NFC draft grades: Bears flunk test - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

Bucket 05-03-2011 03:40 PM

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I think Gomes is a really physical safety like Landry. I wouldnt be suprised if he doesn't step in and take over when O'we goes down, and he will lol.

gafinfan 05-03-2011 06:20 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;800861]Thanks for posting, Mrs. Shanahan! Enjoy the rest of your vacation and we'll see you back in D.C. soon.[/quote]

Oooooooooooh do I detect a bit of sarcasm. I'll give you some more ammo, read my post in the John Beck thread. See Ya!:laughing-

rbanerjee23 05-03-2011 07:52 PM

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I read somewhere (will try to find it) -- the worst Kerrigan will be is a solid outside linebacker with 8-10 sacks year after year.

Hell I'll take that!!!

backrow 05-03-2011 08:40 PM

Re: Redskins Draft Analysis Thread
 
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;800428]I give our overall draft a B.

Trading down for extra picks - A+

Kerrigan - I'm warming to the pick because of the strength of our front 4 pass rush in nickel/dime situations. I would've went with Cam Jordan though. B

Jenkins instead of Paea - D

Hankerson in the 3rd - A

Helu in the 4th instead of Ballard - C-

Gomes instead of an interior OL that fits our scheme like Vandervelde, or a versatile G/T like Demarcus Love. - D

Royster - C
Robinson - B
Thompson - B
Hurt - B
White - C
Neild - B+
Niles Paul - B[/quote]


Wow! Looks like some of my HS grades from 41 years ago! Except I had more Cs!

I only knew about Kerrigan before the Draft, and I loved the trade backs for picks. I'm just not sure about the 1 trade back up; and the over abundance of WR picks.

I give it a B as well, but TC and PS will prove whether some of these later picks are training camp fodder, or real players who make the team.


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