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[quote=Paintrain;785507]Sorry to pick on you man, cause it's not personal BUT this is an asinine way of thinking. There's no such roster in the NFL made up of 'low profile good players who are motivated' or 'young hungry players trying to prove themselves'. That's fine for roster spots 43-53 but if you're talking about players who are going to contribute week in and week out, every single Sunday you need playmakers, some are going to cost money and some are going to be high profile. Using your logic to exclude a 24 year old Sydney Rice (or those of his ilk) is as irresponsible as going out and trying to sign anyone and everyone just because ESPN says they are valuable.

We have a huge need for a young, big, athletic WR. Rice is 6-4, has great speed, history of success and is 24. If he isn't the #1 free agent on our board that's a huge failure by our front office.[/quote]

Some redskins fans never learn.

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Luckily we don't need to trade away picks for him.

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Sorry paintrain, but this is the same way of thinking that has gotten the redskins to this point. There are no shortcuts in the NFL. Throwing money at free agents and trading away draft picks are 2 shortcuts that haven't worked for the redskins for the past decade. It's time to go the other direction.

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I agree with Paintrain. We need to address the WR position in free agency. Sidney Rice would be a perfect acquisition. Historically, the Redskins have been average at best when it comes to drafting receivers high. Desmond Howard, Michael Westbrook, Taylor Jacobs, Rob Gardener, Devin Thomas and Malcom Kelley. All high draft picks with zero pro-bowls between them. I'm not saying all of those guys were bad players, they just failed to be true number one receivers due to a number of reasons including lingering injuries (Westbrook).

Free agent receivers have been our best receivers over the years. Gary Clark, Henry Ellard, Lavernius Coles, Santana Moss, all of them were pro-bowl receivers and have vastly out-performed our high draft picks. The only draft picks we had that were elite WR's were Charlie Brown, Ricky Sanders and Art Monk. So it would be unwise to exclude young proven free agent WR's. The NFL is a passing league, so it's imperative that we surround our QB with the best weapons possible. Sidney Rice and Jason Jones would improve the offense immensely. We would definitely be a better offense with them than without.

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If the Ravens release McGahee I think we leave him be- He would not be starting caliber however, would that be enough competition for Torrain?

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^ I don't believe McGahee fits in Shanahan's system.. I could see Bengals going after McGahee, assuming if they don't resign Benson.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81e694b6/article/ravens-likely-to-cut-ties-with-mcgahee-and-his-6m-2011-salary?module=HP_headlines]NFL.com news: Ravens likely to cut ties with McGahee and his $6M 2011 salary[/url]

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Avoiding bigger name free agents just because we've swung and missed in the past just doesn't make sense.

Yes, it makes sure we don't miss big (Archuleta), but we also miss out on big contributors (Fletcher).

If the right player comes along at a position you need, you don't ignore them simply because it *might* not work out.

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If we can get rice Im all in.

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Just in: panthers will not Tag Deangelo Williams

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[quote=skinsfaninok;785565]Just in: panthers will not Tag Deangelo Williams[/quote]

Health issues?

They'll prob tag Kalil.

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[quote=warriorzpath;785521]Sorry paintrain, but this is the same way of thinking that has gotten the redskins to this point. There are no shortcuts in the NFL. Throwing money at free agents and trading away draft picks are 2 shortcuts that haven't worked for the redskins for the past decade. It's time to go the other direction.[/quote]

So then educate me. Show me a winning team whose roster is primarily comprised of 'low profile good players who are motivated' or 'young hungry players' that eschews free agency and doesn't add talented players by all means (draft, trade, free agency).

The Packers are largely homegrown, right? Their 5 best players (Rodgers, Woodson, Jennings, Raji, Matthews) are all 'high profile' first round (with the exception of Jennings) players. They had role players step up for injured starters but now we're talking about depth, not primary playmakers. Roster spots 42-53, I completely agree, give me youth, give me hunger, give me athleticism but for my first 22, give me talented playmakers and I'll kill the mess out of your young, hungry, low profile team.

For the record, I am completely against trading any of our picks this year and I hope they trade down from 10 to acquire additional picks. However, head in the sand thinking of 'it hasn't worked before so it won't work now' isn't close to the solution either.

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[quote=Ruhskins;785580]Health issues?

They'll prob tag Kalil.[/quote]

I think it's more of stewart being the guy now and they also have a good young RB with him.

I'd like williams but Id rather go WR and DL first. Of course OL also

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[quote=skinsfaninok;785587]I think it's more of stewart being the guy now and they also have a good young RB with him.
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Mike Goodson I think his name is. I had him on multiple fantasy teams.


Williams is more injury-prone than Portis at this point. I'd keep CP in a limited role, 3rd-down RB, blocking back on passing plays over him. Very limited carries but we need his blocking.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;785587]I think it's more of stewart being the guy now and they also have a good young RB with him.

I'd like williams but Id rather go WR and DL first. Of course OL also[/quote]

Actually, it is better for them to use the tag on Kalil, a 25 year-old two-time Pro Bowl center is a better investment than a guy that was on IR.

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And Carolina tags Kalil

Adam Schefter
Carolina is placing its franchise tag on C Ryan Kalil.