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CRedskinsRule 09-28-2009 05:46 PM

Re: Greg Blache needs to be held accountable!!
 
[quote=firstdown;598686]Not sure why blach is taking so much heat. After 3 games our O has scored 30 points which is 10 per game. 14 of those points came after the game was pretty much over and teams where playing prevent which with our O does not make much sense. So if we take off those 14 points we have scored 16 points at a little over 5 per game. That works out to be a little over 1 point per qtr. but some how our problem are on Blach.[/quote]

well ny and detroit, the two games we lost, the opponents had 10minutes more time of possesion then the skins. The skins barely got on the field in the first half against detroit, except their one long drive. You can't score if the opponent has the ball. kinda simple (well at least we can't as Tripp pointed out its been 29 games since we have had a defensive score.)

dmvskinzfan08 09-28-2009 06:11 PM

Re: Greg Blache needs to be held accountable!!
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;598697]well ny and detroit, the two games we lost, the opponents had 10minutes more time of possesion then the skins. The skins barely got on the field in the first half against detroit, except their one long drive. You can't score if the opponent has the ball. kinda simple (well at least we can't as Tripp pointed out its been 29 games since we have had a defensive score.)[/quote]

I dont know if it was last game or not when they said that the offense only had the ball for 5 plays in the first quarter.

GTripp0012 09-28-2009 07:32 PM

Re: Greg Blache needs to be held accountable!!
 
[quote=firstdown;598686]Not sure why blach is taking so much heat. After 3 games our O has scored 30 points which is 10 per game. 14 of those points came after the game was pretty much over and teams where playing prevent which with our O does not make much sense. So if we take off those 14 points we have scored 16 points at a little over 5 per game. That works out to be a little over 1 point per qtr. but some how our problem are on Blach.[/quote]Actually, if you take away all of our offensive drives, we haven't scored even a single offensive point this year. Not even one. What crap.

first, don't make this more complicated than it needs to be. Blache has been a crappy coordinator going back to last year. He didn't just forget how to coach against Detroit.

Defensewins 09-28-2009 08:07 PM

Re: Greg Blache needs to be held accountable!!
 
I have had this name 'defense wins' since day 1 of joining the Warpath.net.
I wanted 'defense wins championships', but this sight would not allow that many letters for my WP name.
I do not claim to know more than everyone else, but i have played and seen enough football in my 44 years to know a great defense when I see one.
This is not personal. I do not like Blache as a coach. I do not like his schemes. I do not like how he runs a defense. We have the talent on our defense to at least be a good defense, but we are under-performing. That falls on the coaches.
One major thing that jumped out at me on Sunday while switching to the other games during commercials of the Redskins game: The dominate defenses (Steelers, Giants) run stunt or twists plays between their DT's and DE's on obvious pass plays. They were doing it on almost every pass play with great sucess. [B]We did not [/B]against the Lions.
I went back and looked at some of the the Lions game (on dvr) and our d-lineman ran straight at the Lions O-lineman trying to bull rush them with very poor results.
I tried to find a play where one of our DT's and DE's ran a twist/pick play and i could not find one. I did not go back back and watch the entire game, but I was amazed that I was having trouble finding one twist play.
This is just one example of a poorly run defense. Blache's defense is unimaginative and simple. We do not dictate to the offense, we read and react. It is difficult for me to watch our defense right now.
This teams level of play has regressed from the playoff team Gibbs and co. left Vinny and Dan. That is obvious. The same way our team regressed from the Norv team to the Spurrier teams. Since the short winning streak early last year, we have slowly gotten worse. Lions game was the wake up call.

tryfuhl 09-28-2009 08:21 PM

Re: Greg Blache needs to be held accountable!!
 
[quote=dmvskinzfan08;597496]I totally agree. But the difference is Zorn is in his second year as a head coach. Blache has been coaching in this league [B]for years[/B] and should know better. He has no excuse at all. I just feel at times when I see him in press conferences that he is full of himself and very stubborn. How do you give him more defensive toys and the D plays worse. Why wont he realize that his experiment with Orakpo has failed?[/quote]
Blache is more concerned with trying to come up with cute quotes.

tryfuhl 09-28-2009 08:24 PM

Re: Greg Blache needs to be held accountable!!
 
[quote=Green1;597607]If the O scores we dont need a defensive touchdown[/quote]
but they're not

hooskins 09-28-2009 09:31 PM

Re: Greg Blache needs to be held accountable!!
 
no matter what the stats are, you simply dont let the lions go 99 yards on you. Blache, you, I, the national media, and everyone knew Skins needed to be a pure defensive team. Somehow the Skins havent improved much defensively despite get big AH and keeping D. Hall.

Hog1 09-28-2009 09:35 PM

Re: Greg Blache needs to be held accountable!!
 
[quote=hooskins;598915]no matter what the stats are, you simply dont let the lions go 99 yards on you. Blache, you, I, the national media, and everyone knew Skins needed to be a pure defensive team. Somehow the Skins havent improved much defensively despite get big AH and keeping D. Hall.[/quote]
If you cannot deny the Lions when necessary......that's a problem

GMScud 09-28-2009 09:36 PM

Re: Greg Blache needs to be held accountable!!
 
[quote=tryfuhl;598856]Blache is more concerned with trying to come up with cute quotes.[/quote]

I seriously can't stand him. Hearing his post-game with Kelly Johnson pissed me off. The first thing out of his mouth was how this wasn't the same Lions team as last year, different culture, different coach, blah blah blah. Like I really want to hear your stupid qualifiers for why your D got lit up en route to losing to a shit team, Greg.

Hog1 09-28-2009 09:40 PM

Re: Greg Blache needs to be held accountable!!
 
You can get away with being an asshole when you post great results. With Blache, we're getting plenty of a-hole and a little light on results......getting old
AND Bend, don't break makes me ill....Dex is ashamed as well

GTripp0012 09-28-2009 10:30 PM

Re: Greg Blache needs to be held accountable!!
 
[quote=GMScud;598919]I seriously can't stand him. Hearing his post-game with Kelly Johnson pissed me off. The first thing out of his mouth was how this wasn't the same Lions team as last year, different culture, different coach, blah blah blah. Like I really want to hear your stupid qualifiers for why your D got lit up en route to losing to a shit team, Greg.[/quote]One of the reasons I got really, really pissed off with Blache at the end of last year was how he managed to find all the wrong solutions to the simplest problems, and covered his ass with excuses with no regard for the long-term health of the team.

[B]Problem: Carlos Rogers can't defend a double move when your stupid-ass 8 man run blitz doesn't get to Flacco

[/B]Solution: Conclude that Carlos isn't the same player he was in the first half of the season (against all evidence), then bench him for DeAngelo Hall.

[B]Problem: Your pass defense can't get off the field in any of the final five games of the season

[/B]Solution: Remind everyone that only three teams have given up fewer yards than you.

[B]Problem: Despite being one of the blitziest coordinators in the NFL, your defense ranks in the bottom five in both sacks and interceptions

[/B]Solution: Remind everyone that while big plays are nice, that only three teams have given up fewer yards than you.

[B]Problem: You sign Albert Haynesworth in the offseason to bolster your pass rush

[/B]Solution: Remind everyone that you were the fourth overall defense in yards against the year before, and anything Albert brings to your gleaming excellence is really just a bonus. It was never about Albert, he's just a player in your scheme.

Basically, as long as you can point out that things aren't your fault, people will keep defending your non-results as a big important deal.

wilsowilso 09-28-2009 10:46 PM

Re: Greg Blache needs to be held accountable!!
 
I was openly skeptical about this washed up chump and his ridiculous secondary scheme before the season even started and now I have a strong distaste for the man.

He stinks.

I hope he is the reason Landry is not developing and once we get rid of him Landry will get his act together although that might be wishful thinking.

skinsfan69 09-28-2009 11:10 PM

Re: Greg Blache needs to be held accountable!!
 
[quote=GTripp0012;598798]Actually, if you take away all of our offensive drives, we haven't scored even a single offensive point this year. Not even one. What crap.

first, don't make this more complicated than it needs to be.[B] Blache has been a crappy coordinator going back to last year. He didn't just forget how to coach against Detroit.[/quote][/B]

[B]that's just your opinion but the so called experts that I've heard think he's done a good job.[/B]

GTripp0012 09-28-2009 11:11 PM

Re: Greg Blache needs to be held accountable!!
 
[quote=skinsfan69;599036][/b]

[B]that's just your opinion but the so called experts that I've heard think he's done a good job.[/B][/quote]It is just my opinion, but those experts suck.

Not because they disagree with me, but because they are claiming "expertise" off of superficial knowledge. I claim no such expertise, I just offer an opinion based on much more direct evidence.

Not one person who goes through the game tape here (and there are at least 5 of us) think Blache is good at what he does.

skinsfan69 09-28-2009 11:15 PM

Re: Greg Blache needs to be held accountable!!
 
[quote=GMScud;598919]I seriously can't stand him. Hearing his post-game with Kelly Johnson pissed me off. [B]The first thing out of his mouth was how this wasn't the same Lions team as last year, different culture, different coach, [/B]blah blah blah. Like I really want to hear your stupid qualifiers for why your D got lit up en route to losing to a shit team, Greg.[/quote]

well you may not want to hear it but it's the truth. they've added some guys...julian peterson, grady jackson, larry foote, bryant johnson and a nice rookie te. plus they had the best player on the field in calvin johnson. and those same guys just flat out beat some of our guys in one one one matchups. they're not the same team as last year.


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