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mooby 10-12-2011 06:36 PM

[QUOTE=Dirtbag59;846416][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7093014/donovan-mcnabb-minnesota-vikings-mechanics-talk-getting-hand]Donovan McNabb of Minnesota Vikings -- Mechanics talk 'getting out of hand' - ESPN[/url]

Trololololol[/QUOTE]

Footwork and mechanics? Over-rated!

Gary84Clark 10-12-2011 07:15 PM

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[quote=mooby;846428]Footwork and mechanics? Over-rated![/quote]

McNabb has a better QB rating than Kevin Kolb, Andy Dalton, Sam Bradford, Colt McCoy, Josh Freeman and Rex Grossman. Phillip Rivers does not have good mechanics either, it is overrated in my opinion as well.

Gary84Clark 10-12-2011 07:18 PM

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[quote=mooby;846271]Dammit. And we have a perfectly good Stallworth for sale. Also, I feel like it should be obvious by now that Derrick Mason was the guy who bad mouthed Brian Schottenheimer.[/quote]

I don't really think Mason cares.

Redskin Jim 10-12-2011 07:25 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;846180]He's been compared to Flacco A lot around here.. Good arm [B]and some decent mobility[/B][/quote]

He's pretty terrible on the run, only completing 20% outside the pocket.

SirClintonPortis 10-12-2011 07:28 PM

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[quote=Gary84Clark;846434]McNabb has a better QB rating than Kevin Kolb, Andy Dalton, Sam Bradford, Colt McCoy, Josh Freeman and Rex Grossman. Phillip Rivers does not have good mechanics either, it is overrated in my opinion as well.[/quote]

Rivers just has an ugly-looking motion. That does not mean his mechanics are actually [I]bad[/I]. However, throwing wormkillers means something is screwed up with his throwing base.

Gary84Clark 10-12-2011 07:34 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;846437]Rivers just has an ugly-looking motion. That does not mean his mechanics are actually [I]bad[/I]. However, throwing wormkillers means something is screwed up with his throwing base.[/quote]

McNabb has always thrown worm killers. If anyone signs him they should have saw that on film. As a Redskins fan I have saw this many of times while he played for the Eagles over the years. Anyone who signs McNabb not knowing this is either lying or they have not done their homework.

SirClintonPortis 10-12-2011 07:48 PM

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[quote=Gary84Clark;846438]McNabb has always thrown worm killers. If anyone signs him they should have saw that on film. As a Redskins fan I have saw this many of times while he played for the Eagles over the years. Anyone who signs McNabb not knowing this is either lying or they have not done their homework.[/quote]

I was not talking about whether or not it is known he throws worm-killers. The matter is [I]why[/I] he throws them. This requires examining all elements involved in throwing a football, aka his mechanics.

Gary84Clark 10-12-2011 08:00 PM

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That is my point, if you know he throws worm killers and you do not want a QB that throws worm killers then do not sign him. Nobody wants to hear coaches whining about stuff like that.

SirClintonPortis 10-12-2011 08:16 PM

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[quote=Gary84Clark;846443]That is my point, if you know he throws worm killers and you do not want a QB that throws worm killers then do not sign him. Nobody wants to hear coaches whining about stuff like that.[/quote]
You're assuming that football players are immutable in their physical attributes and thus come package "as-is" right from the get-go.

The whole point of coaching is to teach players techniques and habits that make them play better. No QB is [I]unable[/I] to make [I]slight [/I]tweaks to how he throws the football. It is only a matter of [I]willingness[/I]. If a player isn't willing to follow [I]sound[/I] coaching, then he is uncoachable.[I] No one [/I]thought Donovan McNabb of as an uncoachable player. THAT is why coaches are dissatified with him. They try to do their job, and he doesn't want to listen.

Jontrem 10-13-2011 08:14 AM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;846449]You're assuming that football players are immutable in their physical attributes and thus come package "as-is" right from the get-go.

The whole point of coaching is to teach players techniques and habits that make them play better. No QB is [I]unable[/I] to make [I]slight [/I]tweaks to how he throws the football. It is only a matter of [I]willingness[/I]. If a player isn't willing to follow [I]sound[/I] coaching, then he is uncoachable.[I] No one [/I]thought Donovan McNabb of as an uncoachable player. THAT is why coaches are dissatified with him. They try to do their job, and he doesn't want to listen.[/quote]

This whole thing is making McNabb look like a Jack Ass in my opinion. His team is once again not meeting expectations and he is refusing to take any responsibility for it or make any changes to his game.

hooskins 10-13-2011 11:11 AM

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So Harper was fined 15k for the late hit on Steve Smith:

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/13/roman-harper-fined-15000-for-late-hit/]Roman Harper fined $15,000 for late hit | ProFootballTalk[/url]

mooby 10-13-2011 12:15 PM

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[quote=hooskins;846562]So Harper was fined 15k for the late hit on Steve Smith:

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/13/roman-harper-fined-15000-for-late-hit/]Roman Harper fined $15,000 for late hit | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

That's it? Inconsistency prevails again.

mooby 10-13-2011 01:04 PM

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Oh man. Had to pass this along. It's a trailer for a new movie called "Millenball." Please, do yourselves a favor and watch:

[url=http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/2acb1b0156/millenball?rel=player]Millenball from msugreen598[/url]

44ever 10-13-2011 01:45 PM

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/si-player-poll-landry-ninth-meanest-player-in-nfl/2011/10/12/gIQA1olGhL_blog.html]SI player poll: Landry ninth meanest player in NFL - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]

Laron Landry makes the top 10 for meanest players according to Sports Illustrated's poll of the meanest players in the NFL.[IMG]http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u209/bk_market/ibjXWmVlDL5tm1.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Lotus 10-13-2011 02:48 PM

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[quote=mooby;846573]That's it? Inconsistency prevails again.[/quote]

No kidding. That fine should have been quite large.

Dirtbag59 10-13-2011 02:53 PM

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Only one offensive lineman? You have to be kidding me. I agree with the DL guys, the linebackers, and the safeties being on that list. And I have no doubt that Hines Ward is a tough sunabicsh . But top 10? They did get the top spot right though with James Harrison.

Ruhskins 10-13-2011 03:21 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;846601]Only one offensive lineman? You have to be kidding me. I agree with the DL guys, the linebackers, and the safeties being on that list. And I have no doubt that Hines Ward is a tough sunabicsh . But top 10? They did get the top spot right though with James Harrison.[/quote]

I thought there were three of them: Kreutz, Incognito, and Dahl. Yeah I don't get the whole Ward pick, especially since the dude looks like he's always smiling. I think Harrison should not get the top spot since he's such cry baby.

hooskins 10-13-2011 03:29 PM

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The smiling bit is a big facade(did I use that right). Ward is a dirty and mean SOB. He is late on all his "blocks" and he definitely is the jerk starting fights.

53Fan 10-13-2011 04:18 PM

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[quote=hooskins;846615]The smiling bit is a big facade(did I use that right). Ward is a dirty and mean SOB. He is late on all his "blocks" and he definitely is the jerk starting fights.[/quote]

Yep. Ward definitely has earned his spot on this list. He's blindsided many players and rung their bell.

Dirtbag59 10-13-2011 04:44 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;846187]With all the QB talent in next years draft, i wouldnt have a problem drafting 2 QB next year. Hey like Shanny says, competition[/quote]

We still don't know for sure if Barkley and Jones will be coming out next year and Luck will not be available for us in any realistic capacity. That basically leaves Folles as the only viable first round prospect that would be available to us. Moore I'm seeing more and more is going to be graded out as a late 2nd to 3rd day pick. Brandon Weenum is interesting in the sense that John Beck is interesting (he'll be a 28 year old rookie). However he's currently projected as a late 2nd to 3rd day pick as well.

After which we will all be talking, as we do every year about how great next years class will be. For better (Gabbert) or worse (Newton).

Dirtbag59 10-13-2011 04:48 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;846613]I thought there were three of them: Kreutz, Incognito, and Dahl. Yeah I don't get the whole Ward pick, especially since the dude looks like he's always smiling. I think Harrison should not get the top spot since he's such cry baby.[/quote]

Never mind then. I don't know for some reason I mistaked Incognito with Igor. Didn't see Kreutz either until I managed to find the actual freaking link.

budw38 10-13-2011 05:10 PM

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Had to laugh , Romo says " we will win SB at some point ( after he hangs up the cleats) . [url=http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/7097389/tony-romo-deion-sanders-dallas-cowboys-win-super-bowl-some-point]Tony Romo to Deion Sanders -- Dallas Cowboys will win the Super Bowl "at some point" - ESPN Dallas[/url]

Slingin Sammy 33 10-13-2011 05:33 PM

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[quote=dirtbag59;846645]we still don't know for sure if barkley and jones will be coming out next year and luck will not be available for us in any realistic capacity. That basically leaves folles as the only viable first round prospect that would be available to us. [/quote]rg3

Dirtbag59 10-13-2011 06:45 PM

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;846663]rg3[/quote]

What's the catch? 80% accuracy? Is he in some inflated stat system? This guy seems to good to be true.

44ever 10-13-2011 07:59 PM

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I think we have a new WP record for most consecutive posts.

mooby 10-13-2011 08:11 PM

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[quote=44ever;846682]I think we have a new WP record for most consecutive posts.[/quote]

No, we don't. Somebody else did ten consecutive posts to get past the 10 post minimum before you start a thread.

44ever 10-13-2011 09:09 PM

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[quote=mooby;846687]No, we don't. [B]Somebody else did ten consecutive posts to get past the 10 post minimum[/B] before you start a thread.[/quote]

Really? Haha. He could have just asked the question in post #1. I just can't talk McNabb anymore. But after reading his thread question, I suddenly really appreciate Grossman. I guess I mentally blocked out how bad DM5 was here.

Glad he's not our prob anymore.

Anyway on to current things, I'm really getting pumped about the Skins/Eagles game. HTTR!

44ever 10-13-2011 09:22 PM

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Injury report as of today.
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/redskins-injury-report-four-limited-for-a-second-straight-day/2011/10/13/gIQAD6LCiL_blog.html]Redskins injury report: Four limited for a second straight day - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]

I really want Armstrong in this game to help Grossman. I think Torain and Helu can bring it all day long without Hightower, so Im not to concerned about him, I'd Rather he come back 100% next week if necessary. If we go lacking all 4, I think we are still OK.

SmootSmack 10-13-2011 09:56 PM

Did I hear right that LaGarette Blount may be out six weeks?

GMScud 10-13-2011 10:05 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;846714]Did I hear right that LaGarette Blount may be out six weeks?[/quote]

Not only is that true, but Brandon Llyod is on the block!!
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/13/report-legarrette-blount-to-miss-several-weeks-with-mcl-sprain/]Report: LeGarrette Blount to miss several weeks with MCL sprain | ProFootballTalk[/url]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/13/broncos-puts-brandon-lloyd-on-the-trading-block/]Broncos put Brandon Lloyd on the trading block | ProFootballTalk[/url]

SmootSmack 10-13-2011 11:20 PM

Yeah Lloyd has been on the block for a while. Broncos were just waiting for some other guys to get healthy.

I guess they figure they'll be just fine with Jabar Gaff...oh wait

SirClintonPortis 10-13-2011 11:40 PM

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Maybe Freeman will finally start padding his stats...or he'll play like utter crap.

skinsfaninok 10-13-2011 11:45 PM

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i honestly wouldn't mind Lloyd again he's matured a lot

SFREDSKIN 10-13-2011 11:52 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;846723]i honestly wouldn't mind Lloyd again he's matured a lot[/quote]

There's no room for him.

skinsfaninok 10-13-2011 11:58 PM

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You always have room for talent unless u mean he's a cancer

CultBrennan59 10-14-2011 12:00 AM

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Loved Dan Grazianos article on us and how last years game had a bad test in our mouths which we don't need to see any videos of since its well in our minds. Orakpo told him all this and was on First Take talking about this.

Slingin Sammy 33 10-14-2011 12:11 AM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;846666]What's the catch? 80% accuracy? Is he in some inflated stat system? This guy seems to good to be true.[/quote]He plays in a spread, but he's a pass first guy. From what I've read, he's very bright, and improving year-over-year. Watched some of Baylor/TCU and he elevates his team. Outside of TCU not much competition so far, but we'll find out a lot about him over the next two weeks against A & M / Ok St. He also has games against OU and Texas left. If he plays strong the next two weeks, he's a top 10 pick. Mel has him at # 19 on the Big Board right now.

Lotus 10-14-2011 10:25 AM

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Romo says the Cowpokes are going to win the Super Bowl "at some point."
[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20111014_romo_this_team_is_going_to_win_a_super_bowl_at_some_point]Romo: 'This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point' - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

Could you be more wishy-washy? Say what you want about Rex but at least there is confidence in his predictions.

skinsfaninok 10-14-2011 02:19 PM

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[YT][/YT][url=http://youtu.be/Hn7uTh_p2oQ]Michael Vick - Eagles vs Redskins - 11/15/2010 - YouTube[/url]



Yikes

CRedskinsRule 10-14-2011 02:32 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;846840][YT][/YT][url=http://youtu.be/Hn7uTh_p2oQ]Michael Vick - Eagles vs Redskins - 11/15/2010 - YouTube[/url]



Yikes[/quote]
Glad that our starting DLine now is not the same as in that game, and even so, if you watch it, you can see where the improvements will directly impact how that game went. Makes me wonder how much of the off-season Defensive pickups were directly related to that youtube clip!


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