Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

The same idea is going for Orton and Ponder. If it is any of them it better be Ponder.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=musicmaster45;800166][url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/680705-2011s-top-15-college-quarterbacks-selected-in-next-years-2012-nfl-draft]Best College Quarterbacks That Will Be Selected in Next Year's 2012 NFL Draft | Bleacher Report[/url]

Here is next years quarterbacks. Some solid talent. I like Kellen Moore.[/quote]

Lol, next years class always > this years class.

Barkley will return to school in 2012. Put it this way, not even NCAA sanctions could get Barkley to transfer away from USC and 2012 will be the first year that the Trojans will be bowl eligible. I seriously doubt that someone as highly touted as Barkley will bolt for the NFL.

Jones will probalby follow Bradfords lead and go back to school as well, especially with the rookie wage scale that will be in place for next years draft. Besides Leinart, Bradford, and Locker have all demonstrated that going back to school, even if you loose the national title, get injured, or have a terrible year, you will never fall lower then 10 once you become projected as a top 5 pick.

So after 2 of the top 3 return to school and 100% of people finally realize that Luck is out of reach then 2013 will become the best QB class ever.

Maybe it's the right decision to hold out on a QB, maybe it's not, but it is virtually guaranteed that a good amount of Skin fans will call the 2012 QB class weak especially when compared to the class that will be projected in 2013. Then in 2013 the cycle will begin anew.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=Dirtbag59;800196]Lol, next years class always > this years class.

Barkley will return to school in 2012. Put it this way, not even NCAA sanctions could get Barkley to transfer away from USC and 2012 will be the first year that the Trojans will be bowl eligible. I seriously doubt that someone as highly touted as Barkley will bolt for the NFL.

Jones will probalby follow Bradfords lead and go back to school as well, especially with the rookie wage scale that will be in place for next years draft. Besides Leinart, Bradford, and Locker have all demonstrated that going back to school, even if you loose the national title, get injured, or have a terrible year, you will never fall lower then 10 once you become projected as a top 5 pick.

So after 2 of the top 3 return to school and 100% of people finally realize that Luck is out of reach then 2013 will become the best QB class ever.

Maybe it's the right decision to hold out on a QB, maybe it's not, but it is virtually guaranteed that a good amount of Skin fans will call the 2012 QB class weak especially when compared to the class that will be projected in 2013.[/quote]Well, at least between 2009 and 2012, its been true every single season that next years class>this years class.

Three consecutive years doesn't make a trend but that doesn't mean the people who said it are wrong.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

vince young isnt any good. id rather stick with what we have than go for him.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

John "dilligaf" Beck, omg, wtf.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=Big C;800198]vince young isnt any good. id rather stick with what we have than go for him.[/quote]

Really? Former ROY and has a winning record

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=GTripp0012;800197]Well, at least between 2009 and 2012, its been true every single season that next years class>this years class.

Three consecutive years doesn't make a trend but that doesn't mean the people who said it are wrong.[/quote]

Well I guess you're right. However I feel like the reasons for constantly lobbying for the next years class aren't pure. Like people are saying it just to say it, rather then actually meaning it.

Also I can get on board with Beck on two conditions. One we fix the running game. And two Beck gives up on the Trump style comb over. If you're going to be the face of the franchise then shave it off. Bald is beautiful, just ask Matt Schuab....okay maybe not beautiful but hey at least you'll put up pro bowl numbers in this system.
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Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;800201]Really? Former ROY and has a winning record[/quote]

Yeah. I don't particularly like Young because I think he is limited in reading defenses, is not always accurate, lacks a work ethic, and is not mentally tough. But somehow he manages to win fairly consistently and that is the bottom line.

In a strange way he reminds me of the old "Wobble and Win with Billy" bumper stickers.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;800201]Really? Former ROY and has a winning record[/QUOTE]

I hate the winning record stat. No offense, but I'd rather hear about Youngs mobility and arm strength. Not his winning record. Put it this way, Kerry Collins had a 12-3 record as a starter in 2008. Does that mean he's better then VY? Also his winning record is mostly from beating cup cakes. Against teams that made the playoffs his record was 5-10 (as of 11/2010). So even if the winning record does hold weight I don't want to rely on it.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

Based on the draft I do see us in play for VY as well as the Bengals. I also see us in the mix for Namdi at corner.

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What about T Jax, Dennis Dixon, or Matt Moore

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^ I mean what other QB is out there? Palmer? So yeah I'd say VY is our Main target.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=GMScud;800182]I love that he's been training with Drew Brees and Aaron Rogers during the offseason.

I've got my fingers crossed that Beck shines for us. Not sure he's a franchise-type guy, but it sounds like Shanny loves the kid. The fact that we didn't select even one QB reinforces that.[/quote]

Hopefully that helps him a lot, no doubt.

I'm not sure I'll say it's a reinforcement quite yet. There are a number of possible scenarios: we wanted a guy or two and missed him, didn't want to "settle" .. we have our eyes on a FA or trade for a vet ... or that we're happy with what we have

I doubt that we go in with Grossman, Beck, and a UDFA are our 3

at least we have things like this to look forward to

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=musicmaster45;800195]The same idea is going for Orton and Ponder. If it is any of them it better be Ponder.[/quote]

I can't see Minny taking Ponder at 12 then trading him for McNabb.. or McNabb and a pick, unless it's a first

I think they know Ponder isn't a first year starter and want McNabb in front of him and Webb

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;800201]Really? Former ROY and has a winning record[/quote]

He sucks, that why the Titans don't want him. Was Kordell Stewart great? Same shit.