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artmonkforhallofamein07 09-14-2009 01:01 PM

Re: Defense = Disappointment
 
The defnese looked good at times yesterday. AH was a big plus for us against the Giants run and he did make plays. That fourth and short at the goaline for sure was due to the big guy up front. We got a fumble BC of a sack and also a pick from a nice play by Laron Landry. These guys held up there part of the bargain. They only gave up 16 points. So to me the defense doesn't equal dissapointment.

Now Zorn and his playcalling and Jason's continued struggles against the Giants. yes that equals a dissapointment.

GTripp0012 09-14-2009 01:09 PM

Re: Defense = Disappointment
 
Really, the only difference between Eli and Jason Campbell at this point in their careers is that Eli is better in the pocket. He moves better, and does better with the pocket collapsing around him.

Otherwise, they are very similar players.

artmonkforhallofamein07 09-14-2009 01:17 PM

Re: Defense = Disappointment
 
Gtripp I completely agree. That is one thing that can make you a good QB and not just another guy.

firstdown 09-14-2009 01:19 PM

Re: Defense = Disappointment
 
[quote=PennSkinsFan;588897]I though, overall, give the superiority of the Giants Oline, they actually got some decent pressure. What I thoughts was horrendous was the pass defense. I don't understand how the Giants secondary is battered, yet they cover our receivers, our receivers can't get open, yet our secondary is healthy and there is ALWAYS wide open receivers somewhere. Not just this game either. It seems on third downs, when opposing teams complete a pass, they receiver is standing alone.[/quote]

Well TV does not do a very good job of showing the field to see if our WRs are open or not and JC is just missing them. I know when I saw him live (it was 2 yrs ago against the G men) we had on 9 to 12 passing plays guys wide open that JC just missed. Not sure if thats still happening but it was so bad in that game my wife even commented on it.

sandtrapjack 09-14-2009 01:26 PM

Re: Defense = Disappointment
 
[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;588934]The defnese looked good at times yesterday. AH was a big plus for us against the Giants run and he did make plays. That fourth and short at the goaline for sure was due to the big guy up front. We got a fumble BC of a sack and also a pick from a nice play by Laron Landry. These guys held up there part of the bargain. They only gave up 16 points. So to me the defense doesn't equal dissapointment.

Now Zorn and his playcalling and Jason's continued struggles against the Giants. yes that equals a dissapointment.[/quote]
Albert Haynesworth: 4 tackles, 0 assists, 0 sacks, 0 forced fumbles.

The "100 million dollar man" needs to step it up or carve out some of that payday for London Fletcher who played lights out yesterday.

artmonkforhallofamein07 09-14-2009 01:32 PM

Re: Defense = Disappointment
 
[quote=sandtrapjack;588950]Albert Haynesworth: 4 tackles, 0 assists, 0 sacks, 0 forced fumbles.

The "100 million dollar man" needs to step it up or carve out some of that payday for London Fletcher who played lights out yesterday.[/quote]

London has been paid. AH was paid and he did his job. Yes if you pull up the fact that he only had 4 tackles it would seem from not watching the game that he didn't get it done, but I for one saw that his pressence in the middle of the line was beneficial for the Skins. I really don;t see any team running up the middle of this defense. He stopped Brandon Jacobs on 4th and inches on the 3 yard line. He was worth it.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 09-14-2009 01:33 PM

Re: Defense = Disappointment
 
[quote=sandtrapjack;588950]Albert Haynesworth: 4 tackles, 0 assists, 0 sacks, 0 forced fumbles.

The "100 million dollar man" needs to step it up or carve out some of that payday for London Fletcher who played lights out yesterday.[/quote]

One of those tackles prevented Jacobs from running into the endzone. I was against signing Haynesworth and he didn't have any sacks yesterday, but he earned his paycheck yesterday and there are 15 other games for him to get a better stat line.

redsk1 09-14-2009 01:34 PM

Re: Defense = Disappointment
 
[quote=sandtrapjack;588950]Albert Haynesworth: 4 tackles, 0 assists, 0 sacks, 0 forced fumbles.

The "100 million dollar man" needs to step it up or carve out some of that payday for London Fletcher who played lights out yesterday.[/quote]

AH had a pretty good day imo. He's a interior lineman, he's not going to get sacks every day. He routinely blew up and pushed back their o line and their oline is pretty good. He made the 4 and 1 stop on the goal line and other big plays. So, let's not say he needs to step it up when he had a pretty good game.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-14-2009 01:43 PM

Re: Defense = Disappointment
 
[quote=sandtrapjack;588950]Albert Haynesworth: 4 tackles, 0 assists, 0 sacks, 0 forced fumbles.

The "100 million dollar man" needs to step it up or carve out some of that payday for London Fletcher who played lights out yesterday.[/quote]

Do you think it's possible that some of that "lights out" play came because you had big AH eating up lots of space in the middle? I certainly do.

redsk1 09-14-2009 02:05 PM

Re: Defense = Disappointment
 
[quote=sandtrapjack;588950]Albert Haynesworth: 4 tackles, 0 assists, 0 sacks, 0 forced fumbles.

The "100 million dollar man" needs to step it up or carve out some of that payday for London Fletcher who played lights out yesterday.[/quote]

Jay Ratliff needs to step it up: only 2 tackles, O assists, O sacks, O forced fumbles.

MCWHITEY 09-14-2009 02:10 PM

Re: Defense = Disappointment
 
new season, some new players, same OL' Skins.
5 wins MAX this year and one better b week 5.

artmonkforhallofamein07 09-14-2009 02:14 PM

Re: Defense = Disappointment
 
Damn MC.. pretty down huh? We will definately win more than 5 bud. It was one game.

Njall 09-14-2009 03:07 PM

Re: Defense = Disappointment
 
Redskins Defense no matter how good they are they will begging to slow down by week 6. If offense does not give them any time to rest!

53Fan 09-14-2009 03:19 PM

Re: Defense = Disappointment
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;588970]Do you think it's possible that some of that "lights out" play came because you had big AH eating up lots of space in the middle? I certainly do.[/quote]

You took the words right out of my mouth TMC! Fletch is expected to make more tackiles with AH up front. Ask Ray Lewis how he felt about drafting Ngata.

sandtrapjack 09-14-2009 03:59 PM

Re: Defense = Disappointment
 
[quote=redsk1;589007]Jay Ratliff needs to step it up: only 2 tackles, O assists, O sacks, O forced fumbles.[/quote]
Ratliff was a 7th rounder and did not get a 100 million dollar contract with 41 Mill garaunteed. And he has been to just as many pro bowls as the 100 milllion dollar Haynesworth.

Oh and you forgot to add a 34-21 victory.

Just saying you could have gotten the same production for less cap money is all.


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