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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;296173]I don't feel sorry for that clown at all. He has a chance to make more $ than most people will make in 100 lifetimes. With that comes a certain responsibility. Didn't this guy attend the rookie symposium? sp? At some point you have to learn on your own how to be a man.

I didn't grow up w/ a father around and I had common sense not to hang out with people who carry guns. THAT'S COMMON SENSE!!! Pacman has no common sense and now he has to live with his punishment.[/QUOTE]

I'm not really disagreeing. Also, though, maybe he felt like he grew up in a place where it was thought to be a good idea to carry a gun. He's from a bad part of Atlanta. That's probably a relatively rough area. Also, the point I'm making is that he got a pass his whole life because he could play football. Finally, the rookie symposium is probably something, people like him (those who have been given a pass their whole life), don't have the good sense to pay attention to. Like I've said, he made his own decisions, this is his fault. But there are contributing factors and those factors are the reason I feel sorry for him.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;296171]Interesting commentary from a former NFL laywer on NFL Network.[/quote]

whats a laywer?:)

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Damn right! Great job Roger Goodell!

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serves him right, should have been a lifetime ban in my opinion.

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[QUOTE=GoSkins!;296176]whats a laywer?:)[/QUOTE]

Someone who is almost a lawyer, but is too sloppy to catch dumb spelling mistakes.

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Just caught ole Floyd Reese cup the ex GM from TT that brought this fool in, on ESPN the entire panel agreed on these suspensions....I know it's hard to believe they all agree on anything!

Then they interviewed Chris M, he stated that the 10 incidents for PACMAN, was more LIKE 15! Give em hell Goodell, clean up this mess. Ya gotta start somewhere. GREAT JOB!

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;296184]Someone who is almost a lawyer, but is too sloppy to catch dumb spelling mistakes.[/quote]

Sorry SGG, I watchin him like a HAWK, you just type faster than I do.
Spelling Susp****** coming up? Time out this time.......GoSkins!

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What happens to each teams [B]cap space[/B]? Can they recover all or part of the money? I mean if it doesn't go to the player does it count toward the cap? Does it make a difference if the Titans release Pacman?


On another note does anyone think this will affect who people draft in the coming years? Will teams choose not to draft a Ramonce Taylor(felony drug possession), Nate Harris(armed robbery), or Eric Wright(sexual assault)? Surely this must cause this type players to drop in the draft. I say this with joy because I have always been for drafting players who had good attitudes as well as skill.

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[quote=Hijinx;296191]What happens to each teams [B]cap space[/B]? Can they recover all or part of the money? I mean if it doesn't go to the player does it count toward the cap? Does it make a difference if the Titans release Pacman?


On another note does anyone think this will affect who people draft in the coming years? Will teams choose not to draft a Ramonce Taylor(felony drug possession), Nate Harris(armed robbery), or Eric Wright(sexual assault)? Surely this must cause this type players to drop in the draft. I say this with joy because I have always been for drafting players who had good attitudes as well as skill.[/quote]

If this doesn't make a team re-think a player with conduct issues, they are flat out stupid.

I believe what I heard the TT would be entitled to recover somewhere in the 3 mil range if they choose, that includes bonus monies? I would think that would be a no brainer....no play.....no pay.

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[quote=skinsfan69;296173]I don't feel sorry for that clown at all. He has a chance to make more $ than most people will make in 100 lifetimes. With that comes a certain responsibility. Didn't this guy attend the rookie symposium? sp? At some point you have to learn on your own how to be a man.

I didn't grow up w/ a father around and I had common sense not to hang out with people who carry guns. THAT'S COMMON SENSE!!! Pacman has no common sense and now he has to live with his punishment.[/quote]Very well said.

I don't have much to say on this topic. I wish it would all just go away the fans could talk more football and less criminal behavior. He deserves what he's getting, and hopefully he will learn something for it, because losing the entire 2007 from a developmental perspective will probably keep him from ever reaching his potential. It's going to take him a few years after he's reinstated to work his way back to the level of play he reached last year, and theres no guarentee he will ever regain his pro bowl form again.

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Is anyone else thinking Springs to the Titans for some draft picks now? No...no one? Ok

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[quote=GTripp0012;296198]Very well said.

I don't have much to say on this topic. I wish it would all just go away the fans could talk more football and less criminal behavior. He deserves what he's getting, and hopefully he will learn something for it, because losing the entire 2007 from a developmental perspective will probably keep him from ever reaching his potential. It's going to take him a few years after he's reinstated to work his way back to the level of play he reached last year, and theres no guarentee he will ever regain his pro bowl form again.[/quote]

Yupp, and the last point you made is right on. I don't know if he will reach a high level for a while. Also the NFL has to think about the kids that stay up and watch games. Pacman is an appealing player to them because of swagger and hey his name is catchy.

He is just an idiot on so many levels. He makes T.O. seem like a saint.

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I'm hoping for a trickle down effect that stems from this new policy. It's possible that high school and college coaches can now use this indirectly for their discipline tool.

Example dialog...

"Hey Keith, look, I know you like going out and having a good time. Heck, if I had a nickel for every time I got drunk and stopped by the cops I wouldn't need this job coaching {chuckle, chuckle}. But, I didn't have the gifted athleticism like you do. You know the pro's have a real tough policy when it comes to these sort of things now and believe they are serious about it. I want you to have the best future possible and, man, I'd hate to not have the opportunity see that talent running wild on Sunday afternoon's all because you drank too much and decided to drive just a few blocks back to your apartment. Next time, give me a call and i'll take you home."

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I know the NFL isn't responsible per se for them, but how are Jones and Henry going to be better people overall if they don't have the structure of football. I realize neither was a saint to begin with, but I fear it getting much worse before it gets better (if it ever does). In a way it reminds me of Mike Tyson.

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[quote=SmootSmack;296211]I know the NFL isn't responsible per se for them, but how are Jones and Henry going to be better people overall if they don't have the structure of football. I realize neither was a saint to begin with, but I fear it getting much worse before it gets better (if it ever does). In a way it reminds me of Mike Tyson.[/quote]

I doubt very much there is hope to change these guys. It is more to show future and current players that the league has the right and the will to police them.

If anyone saw that "interview" Pacman had with Deion Sanders they would figure out quite quickly that this guy isn't going to mature in time to still play in the NFL. He had no regret just thought he was being blamed for hanging out with the wrong people.