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SirLK26 01-04-2017 03:18 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1161526]Listened to the audio vault w/ Cooley. He basically said that KC was playing scared because of his contract situation and it was his worst game since he became the starter.[/quote]

I may have a faulty memory, but I thought Cooley said he didn't think Kirks poor play was about his contract. He said Kirk didn't respond well to the pressure of this game, he didn't want to say it was a choke, just that Kirk was too scared of making a mistake and missed a lot. But I thought he made it clear that in his opinion it was not because of the contract situation

warriorzpath 01-04-2017 03:19 PM

Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
You're right I don't know when to stop when it comes to bullies like you. Get a clue - Look at my name.

skinsfan69 01-04-2017 03:39 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=SirLK26;1161565]I may have a faulty memory, but I thought Cooley said he didn't think Kirks poor play was about his contract. He said Kirk didn't respond well to the pressure of this game, he didn't want to say it was a choke, just that Kirk was too scared of making a mistake and missed a lot. But I thought he made it clear that in his opinion it was not because of the contract situation[/quote]

You could be correct.

One of the other things they mentioned on the Int to Harris. He was shocked that KC was even was looking at that side of the field, since Harris was by himself on the 3 by 1 formation. I found that the most interesting, cause it was obviously an easy td had KC just looked where he was suppose to look.

Anyhow, not a good way for KC to end the season. I still 100% believe he's our starter and should be paid in the low 20 million dollar range, or just south of Luck money.

SolidSnake84 01-04-2017 06:41 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1161567]You could be correct.

One of the other things they mentioned on the Int to Harris. He was shocked that KC was even was looking at that side of the field, since Harris was by himself on the 3 by 1 formation. I found that the most interesting, cause it was obviously an easy td had KC just looked where he was suppose to look.

Anyhow, not a good way for KC to end the season. I still 100% believe he's our starter and should be paid in the low 20 million dollar range, or just south of Luck money.[/quote]

I think his value is inching up slightly as time goes by and McVay and Kyle Shanahan interview for coaching opportunities. Both are Cousins guy and I dare say if Shanahan gets hired as a HC somewhere he will reach out and try and get Kirk.

punch it in 01-04-2017 09:49 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[QUOTE=Chico23231;1161493]talk about crying, heh?



But seriously...and this is for everyone having second thoughts or straight up "hatting" on Cousins: What is our other option at QB? Hoyer? Cutler, Kaperneck? Terrible draft QB class folks...



Do we understand also that if that Cousins hit the free agent market that possibly up to 1/3 of the league would inquire and possibly offer Cousins a contract?



Also Cousins would be head & tails the free agent in the class...he would be on a tier by himself...seriously.

Top Free Agents:



1. Cousins

































2. Short DT Carolina

3. Eric Berry FS KC

4. Hands-Free JPP DE Vigiants[/QUOTE]



Hoyer is a code red trap baller. Just sayin....

skinsfaninok 01-04-2017 10:07 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;1161588]I think his value is inching up slightly as time goes by and McVay and Kyle Shanahan interview for coaching opportunities. Both are Cousins guy and I dare say if Shanahan gets hired as a HC somewhere he will reach out and try and get Kirk.[/quote]

If he ends up in Denver that wont happen

htownskinfan 01-04-2017 11:13 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1161349][quote=htownskinfan;1161298]

Do you mean the Dallas game where he couldn't get the ball to the wr's downfield? Did you also forget about the other games he played in that year? Then he got hurt. Bottom line is if McCoy was better than KC he'd be on the field. The coaches.. Gruden, McVay, Cavanaugh see them up close everyday. They know more than we do. If McCoy was a starting caliber QB another team would have signed him. He's a great backup QB, not a 16 game starter.

And what he did in college doesn't mean anything at this point.[/quote]

Did you read my other post about Mccoy? I knew someone would jump in and twist this,I never said McCoy should be the starter,read the other post before commenting please

sdskinsfan2001 01-05-2017 12:45 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
Time to watch Nate Sudfeld highlights and get amped up and psyched out.

I'm secretly hoping Cousins has a Panthers/Norman type situation and SM let's him go. Why? Because he is going to get way more than he's worth from us or some other team. I rather have it be another team. And no, I don't have the answer for who starts, but I don't want to over pay out of fear. We can find someone.

mooby 01-05-2017 07:50 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1161606]Time to watch Nate Sudfeld highlights and get amped up and psyched out.

I'm secretly hoping Cousins has a Panthers/Norman type situation and SM let's him go. Why? Because he is going to get way more than he's worth from us or some other team. I rather have it be another team. And no, I don't have the answer for who starts, but I don't want to over pay out of fear. [B]We can find someone.[/B][/quote]

Sure, we only waited 20 years to find this one, finding another one should be pretty easy right?

skinsfaninok 01-05-2017 07:51 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[QUOTE=mooby;1161609]Sure, we only waited 20 years to find this one, finding another one should be pretty easy right?[/QUOTE]
This

MTK 01-05-2017 08:13 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[QUOTE=mooby;1161609]Sure, we only waited 20 years to find this one, finding another one should be pretty easy right?[/QUOTE]



Seriously

KI Skins Fan 01-05-2017 08:53 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1161606]Time to watch Nate Sudfeld highlights and get amped up and psyched out.

I'm secretly hoping Cousins has a Panthers/Norman type situation and SM let's him go. Why? Because he is going to get way more than he's worth from us or some other team. I rather have it be another team. And no, I don't have the answer for who starts, but I don't want to over pay out of fear. We can find someone.[/quote]

What is the goal here, anyway? I thought it was to build a team that can win a Super Bowl. No team can win a Super Bowl these days with a run-of-the-mill QB. In fact, it has rarely been done before now.

Where are you going to get this cheap QB who can lead us to the Super Bowl?

- There are 22 NFL QB's who are being paid an average of $17M or more per season under their current contracts.

- There are 15 NFL QB's who are guaranteed $65M or more under their current contracts.

- The Franchise Tag for QB's in 2017 will be $24M. That's the baseline for Kirk Cousins, one year at $24M fully guaranteed. As of today, there are 19 NFL QB's who are each contractually guaranteed more than $24M.

In the NFL, you need a good QB to win. We have a good QB. Good QB's are hard to find and they are paid extremely well, as shown above; therefore, in order to win we must pay our good QB extremely well. It's so simple that some of us think there must be more to it than that. There isn't.

The alternative? Hope for a lightning strike on FedEx Field with a good and cheap QB emerging from the smoking turf.

Alvin Walton 01-05-2017 09:02 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
No one in this thread can provide an alternative to Cousins.
Not one that can take us to the playoffs.

sdskinsfan2001 01-05-2017 10:01 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;1161616]No one in this thread can provide an alternative to Cousins.
Not one that can take us to the playoffs.[/quote]

Did the Cowboys have a valid alternative to Tony Romo this year that could lead them to the playoffs? And somehow they're 13-3. There are always going to be more qbs that come along. We got Cousins in the 4th round. Everyone acts like Cousins is the last good qb that will ever be found in nfl history and we have to keep him forever no matter the cost or how bad he has continuously choked in big games to this point.

sdskinsfan2001 01-05-2017 10:08 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=mooby;1161609]Sure, we only waited 20 years to find this one, finding another one should be pretty easy right?[/quote]

Yea, he has good stats, but what exactly have we waited 20 years for, a qb that can get us to 8-7-1? I know there are other factors to that record like our sieve defense, but it's not exactly like he is dominating the nfl. I just don't think he's worth more than 20 million a year and it sounds like he's gonna want a lot more than that. No thanks. That's just my opinion though. I know people will disagree and there are a lot of good points to be made from your side. If he gets 25 million a year and takes the next leap, I'll gladly eat crow at that time.


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