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[quote=skinsfaninok;1359425]Drake Maye is a better mobile QB than most realize. Kid is no snail out there.

I still say JD5 is the better choice but if Kilff and company want Maye I’m all in on that too

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Drake Maye is a really good athlete and he moves very well. J.D. is an elite athlete, and he moves like an elite athlete.

Daniels is definitely the better athlete. I think he's the better overall QB too, but that could be up for debate. Based on pure athletic ability, not too many like Daniels ever. Not a slight on Maye. He can definitely move too.

I want Daniels. But I want Maye more than anyone else after Daniels. So really, as long as we pick 1 of the 2, I'm gonna be chugging kool-aid like a lunatic.

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It looks like Chicago will trade Fields. To me, that is a strong indicator that they want Caleb Williams. So it's probably going to be between Daniels and Maye for us. They both seem to be excellent prospects so I'd say we're in good shape.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1359451]Someone had to fuck around and go 1st; Williams to the Commanders w/ no trade down. It's unlikely, but it's not absolutely insane. He has the Bears taking Maye at No. 1.

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Maye has been closing the gap for a while now. Him going #1 overall would not shock me.

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When was the last time, if ever, that the top 3 qbs went 1 2 3, AND none of the 3 bust? my guess is never, so i think that the probability of us getting a bust is historically greater than 60%. If this staff gets it right, I will be in hog heaven. hell i might even yell "Let's go Commando!"

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1359456]When was the last time, if ever, that the top 3 qbs went 1 2 3, AND none of the 3 bust? my guess is never, so i think that the probability of us getting a bust is historically greater than 60%. If this staff gets it right, I will be in hog heaven. hell i might even yell "Let's go Commando!"

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The Chase young draft, 4 QB went in the first and none have been bust

Burrow 1
Tua 5
Herbert 6
Love 26

The “safest” picks in the top 5 were all busts: Young, Okudah

The top tackle Andrew Thomas has been good at times but inconsistent. That’s definitely not living up to top 5 status

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1359454]It looks like Chicago will trade Fields. To me, that is a strong indicator that they want Caleb Williams. So it's probably going to be between Daniels and Maye for us. They both seem to be excellent prospects so I'd say we're in good shape.[/quote]

Its the wrost kept "secret" everyone knows its happening

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scenario:

trade with cardinals:
we get
Murray
#4 overall
this year cardinals 2nd
conditional 2025 2nd {on Murray playing time)

cards get #2 overall

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No, just no. Murray is not a franchise QB, has issues and would not be good value. If they are going to get a new QB they have to roll the dice on the draft. Bringing in a re-tread would be a Rivera type move.

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1359468]No, just no. Murray is not a franchise QB, has issues and would not be good value. If they are going to get a new QB they have to roll the dice on the draft. Bringing in a re-tread would be a Rivera type move.[/QUOTE]at 4 you could still take a qb, or bundle chicago and cards 2nds to move back up and grab one, while using #4 on the best Lt on the team's draft board. And could pursue trades for Howell.

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[quote=Chico23231;1359458]The Chase young draft, 4 QB went in the first and none have been bust

Burrow 1
Tua 5
Herbert 6
Love 26

The “safest” picks in the top 5 were all busts: Young, Okudah

The top tackle Andrew Thomas has been good at times but inconsistent. That’s definitely not living up to top 5 status[/quote]

Yeah, that was a good year for QBs - an outlier though. Can't say the same for 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, or 2023 though.

Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson - all picked in the top 10. Then there's other 1st rounders like Dwayne Haskins, Mac Jones, Kenny Pickett, even Justin Fields

I'm crossing my fingers and toes - hoping we end up with a dude, but honestly, it's probably not even 50/50 that the top of this draft ends up like:

Burrow/Tagovaiola/Herbert

as opposed to

Lawrence/Wilson/Lance

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Can I ask a question of the more knowledgeable fans here - What are the causes that make picking a quarterback so much more of a crap shoot then most other positions. I mean I get that in there are some intangibles that you can't tell, but all these quarterbacks that go in the top 10 that are busts or at least not superstars Have been playing this game their whole life from the time they were eight or nine 10 through college there's lots of film there's lots of ways to investigate it . Why is it so hard to find the good one ?

Or what is it about the NFL that makes being a good one so much harder than college etc.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1359471]Can I ask a question of the more knowledgeable fans here - What are the causes that make picking a quarterback so much more of a crap shoot then most other positions. I mean I get that in there are some intangibles that you can't tell, but all these quarterbacks that go in the top 10 that are busts or at least not superstars Have been playing this game their whole life from the time they were eight or nine 10 through college there's lots of film there's lots of ways to investigate it . Why is it so hard to find the good one ?

Or what is it about the NFL that makes being a good one so much harder than college etc.

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i honestly think the best talent goes to some of the worst franchises and these boys just don't develop there

Football is the ultimate team sport, there are so many factors in order to make your QB look good

Imagine Bryce Young in SF

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Yeah, I agree with mredskins. Look at Lawrence in Jags - he didn't play well in his first year with Meyers, and he improved a lot when Pederson became the head coach.

Even Shanahan likes Darnold enough to get rid his 1st round prize Lance, despite the fact that Darnold wasn't good with Jets and Panthers.

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Coaching is a lot of it, but also college level schemes and competition can make QB's look better than they are. At the NFL level they have to be able to read D's comprehensively and go beyond single read or option schemes. Just look at that video of Stroud breaking down his pre-snap reads and you realise how much football smarts the kid has. It's teh same reason the like of Brady, Cousins and Purdy belied their draft position. Their physical attributes are just one half of the puzzle. Their brain is the other. And bad coaching can mess up the latter just as easily as physical injury can mess up the former.

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Not to mention they are going against the most elite of the elite. There are many very good and elite players in College, but the NFL is nothing but that.