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[QUOTE=Giantone;1293842]LOL, where in the hell have you been the last ten years?[/QUOTE]


Shh leave Chico alone while he tries to make Biden look like he is undoing all of Trumps hard work. Lol.

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Also in regards to the infrastructure thing I mainly blame the Republicans who suddenly are fiscally responsible again since Trump left. No bill they are fighting the progressives on is a trillion dollar tax break for the super rich so…..:

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I am good with the bill. We can't keep kicking the climate change can down the road to future generations both that and infrastructure will get Americans back to work. The way I see both climate change and infrastructure is economist tell us how expensive it is to repair and don't do it next thing you know. Five decades go by and the cost is ten times as high.

I am not a fan on Manchin he has zero problems adding thousands to welfare so his family can gain millions just not a decent human being.

Sinema I feel is going to switch parties next election.

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[quote=punch it in;1293921]Also in regards to the infrastructure thing I mainly blame the Republicans who suddenly are fiscally responsible again since Trump left. No bill they are fighting the progressives on is a trillion dollar tax break for the super rich so…..:[/quote]

Dude, you hold both chambers and the presidency.

Blame the gop? You have no leg to stand on with this claim, it’s simply bullshit

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[quote=punch it in;1293917]Shh leave Chico alone while he tries to make Biden look like he is undoing all of Trumps hard work. Lol.[/quote]

Inflation and Biden’s energy policy decisions equal higher prices. Sorry

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1293929]Dude, you hold both chambers and the presidency.

Blame the gop? You have no leg to stand on with this claim, it’s simply bullshit[/QUOTE]


Ill try and explain in the simplest of terms. The progressive wing of the democratic party wants other bills passed before they get on board. The GOP will not even consider it because they are suddenly fiscally responsible again. They were not when they stamped Trumps tax breaks for the rich. The only bullshit here is that you are pretending not to understand the bigger picture. Which you usually don’t when it involves Trump in a negative light. In this case wasting our money on his rich bitch friends so that he can do a victory conga line at mara lago with them all.

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Mitch McConnell might be the most passive aggressive lying bitch in the universe. I cannot even take his stupid voice anymore. How fuckin long is he going to live? Probably 125.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1293931]Inflation and Biden’s energy policy decisions equal higher prices. Sorry[/QUOTE]


Inflation is supply n demand right now. Supply and demand is because of the pandemic.

Energy policy decisions on the left are based on a world being around for future generations. Minor details. [emoji849]

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[quote=punch it in;1293944]Ill try and explain in the simplest of terms. The progressive wing of the democratic party wants other bills passed before they get on board. The GOP will not even consider it because they are suddenly fiscally responsible again. They were not when they stamped Trumps tax breaks for the rich. The only bullshit here is that you are pretending not to understand the bigger picture. Which you usually don’t when it involves Trump in a negative light. In this case wasting our money on his rich bitch friends so that he can do a victory conga line at mara lago with them all.[/quote]

Tax breaks for the rich…the raising the SALT Tax to pre Trump limits? Bro, you know the SALT tax repeal that only Democrats are pushing would be the actually largest tax break for the wealthy that directly hits there personal tax return.
Read up:
[url]https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2021/10/02/how-dems-can-get-out-of-the-salt-mess-and-save-1-trillion-dollars/[/url]

Ninety-six percent of the benefit would flow to the top 20 percent of the income distribution with the top 0.1 percent getting a tax cut of $154,000 per year, on average. To be fair, the middle class does get something. The middle 60 percent of the income distribution would receive, on average, a tax cut of $37 per year. Even in high-tax states, the middle class gets little. In New York, the top 1 percent would get a tax cut of about $103,000, on average. For those in the middle class, the benefit is just $90, on average. So repealing the cap is regressive and delivers little to no social benefit.

Also, raising the tobacco, vape, etc. taxes directly hits the poor.

You guys all are full of shit. It’s a socialist plan period which tax benefits the wealthy especially in high tax blue states.

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[quote=punch it in;1293950]Mitch McConnell might be the most passive aggressive lying bitch in the universe. I cannot even take his stupid voice anymore. How fuckin long is he going to live? Probably 125.[/quote]

Some turtles 🐢 really do live for a long ass time.

[url]https://a-z-animals.com/blog/how-old-is-the-worlds-oldest-turtle-5-turtles-that-survived-for-centuries/[/url]

"According to the Turtle Conservation Society, most turtle species live from 10 to 80 years. But sea turtles and large land tortoises can live to be much older. Their lifespan can be 150 years or more."

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[quote=Chico23231;1293956]

Also, raising the tobacco, vape, etc. taxes directly hits the poor.

You guys all are full of shit. [B]It’s a socialist plan period which tax benefits the wealthy especially in high tax blue states[/B].[/quote]

Agreed, taxes on things like alcohol, tobacco hit the poor more.

If suspending or raising the SALT cap would benefit wealthy especially in blue states ... are you willing to concede that Trumps tax plan which started this SALT mess was designed to target blue states.

Trump was such a partisan POS. President to half the country, vindictive petty asshole to the rest.

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Democratic-leaning blue states tend to be wealthier and pay more to the Federal Government than they get. In contrast, Republican-leaning red states tend to have less wealth and receive more Federal Government funds than they pay. In the MoneyGeek rankings, nine of the 10 most dependent states are considered red states.

"Higher-income states produce the majority of the tax dollars that go into the Federal Government's pocket," Fallon says. Because of the higher income, states and their residents need less support and use fewer federal dollars.

Fallon noted that recent tax code changes have made wealthy states' contributions more pronounced.

"Before, people who paid large state income taxes would deduct those from their federal tax payments," she says. Now, state tax deductions are capped. "Ironically, it means the wealthier states' populations are paying even more."

[url]https://www.moneygeek.com/living/states-most-reliant-federal-government/#red-vs-blue[/url]


Chico youre right .. it is fucking socialism. Tax code written to attack blue states to prop up red states even more.

red states .. get your shit together you commie bastards.

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Blue states have an option around the salt tax discussion…blue states could easily and simply lower tax rates. It’s unfair to everyone regardless of tax brackets

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1293961]some turtles [emoji217] really do live for a long ass time.

[url]https://a-z-animals.com/blog/how-old-is-the-worlds-oldest-turtle-5-turtles-that-survived-for-centuries/[/url]

"according to the turtle conservation society, most turtle species live from 10 to 80 years. But sea turtles and large land tortoises can live to be much older. Their lifespan can be 150 years or more."[/quote]


lol.

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I don’t even know where to put this. It is probably Trumps fault though. It ultimately boils down to hate
And lies and the ratings it generates and we all know who the king of hate and lies is.

[url]https://www.reuters.com/technology/facebook-instagram-down-thousands-users-downdetectorcom-2021-10-04/[/url]

People must be losing their minds. How do i know what everyone is having for dinner? And I haven’t seen a picture of the baby in four hours?

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[quote=Chico23231;1293969]Blue states have an option around the salt tax discussion…[B]blue states could easily and simply lower tax rates. [/B]It’s unfair to everyone regardless of tax brackets[/quote]

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