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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1329314]So when the election is over we don't have to wait and wait and wait. It's ridiculous. Send the ballots in earlier and start counting them once they are received. It shouldn't be that difficult to do.[/quote]

These are the checks in place to ensure mail ballots are cou nted accurately and not part of fraud. While I would be okay if mail in ballotin g finished earlier I don't think it would negate the problem of timeliness. We still have issues with in person counting for various reasons and then there are legalities of denying people access to voting if they were planning to vote in person but in the last two weeks there is something that prevents them, (jury duty for example). I get it though it is annoying.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1329319]These are the checks in place to ensure mail ballots are cou nted accurately and not part of fraud. While I would be okay if mail in ballotin g finished earlier I don't think it would negate the problem of timeliness. We still have issues with in person counting for various reasons and then there are legalities of denying people access to voting if they were planning to vote in person but in the last two weeks there is something that prevents them, (jury duty for example). I get it though it is annoying.[/quote]

I'm not against the checks, in-fact I fully support them. But to me, that's all the more reason to send in your mail-in ballots early. I also think election "day" should be Saturday - Tuesday.

So for the mid-terms for 2022 as an example:

- Mail-in ballots need to be post-marked by 10/25/2022
- In person voting held 11/5/2022 - 11/8/2022

Even if you can't count all of the mail-in ballots prior to the election, you would still be able to know exactly how many you have and allocate your resources/structure how the votes will be counted once you are able to count them.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1329314]So when the election is over we don't have to wait and wait and wait. It's ridiculous. Send the ballots in earlier and start counting them once they are received. It shouldn't be that difficult to do.[/quote]

Since it's mostly seniors that vote early if one candidate takes a lead others might think why bother? Nope! Still believe election day should be a National Day off .

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[quote=Giantone;1329339]Since it's mostly seniors that vote early if one candidate takes a lead others might think why bother? Nope! Still believe election day should be a National Day off .[/quote]

Florida begins counting early. They don't know the results until polls close on election day. Not sure what their process is just saying you can count early without people knowing what the results are (Imagine the machine has a system of counting but not showing the results until certain date time group).

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[quote=nonniey;1329427]Florida begins counting early. They don't know the results until polls close on election day. Not sure what their process is just saying you can count early without people knowing what the results are (Imagine the machine has a system of counting but not showing the results until certain date time group).[/quote]

Maryland they count early too.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1329323]I'm not against the checks, in-fact I fully support them. But to me, that's all the more reason to send in your mail-in ballots early. I also think election "day" should be Saturday - Tuesday.

So for the mid-terms for 2022 as an example:

- Mail-in ballots need to be post-marked by 10/25/2022
- In person voting held 11/5/2022 - 11/8/2022

Even if you can't count all of the mail-in ballots prior to the election, you would still be able to know exactly how many you have and allocate your resources/structure how the votes will be counted once you are able to count them.[/QUOTE]


What is the rush to know who wins the seats in November? Does it change anything? Serious question. If we knew a week ago the result of every seat would it matter other than for us to say haha we won?

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1328651]Recession yall!

I don’t want to hear any complaints.the democrat economic policies lead us to it. Nothing to do with anything else, no excuses…they have control[/QUOTE]


I love how simple you think the world economy is. Lol. Nothing to do with anything else. Hahaha.

This recession started in February of 2020. We don’t feel a recession when it starts. It doesn’t work that way. Not even for your talking points Chico. Do your homework before you post. The last 5 recessions all started under Republican administrations.

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[quote=punch it in;1329469]I love how simple you think the world economy is. Lol. Nothing to do with anything else. Hahaha.

This recession started in February of 2020. We don’t feel a recession when it starts. It doesn’t work that way. Not even for your talking points Chico. Do your homework before you post. The last 5 recessions all started under Republican administrations.[/quote]

To quote Forrest Gump(almost), "simple is as simple does"!

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Second, the national debt (adjusted for inflation) increased more rapidly under the past four Republican administrations — at an average annual rate of 10.2 percent during the Reagan administration, 8.2 percent and 5.9 percent during the two Bush administrations, and 6.8 percent during the Trump administration — compared with only 1.6 percent and 4.6 percent during the Clinton and Obama administrations, respectively.
If those four Republican administrations had been as fiscally responsible as their Democratic counterparts, the national debt would be about 70 percent lower than it is, increasing from 31 percent of gross national product in 1981 to 37 percent today — rather than the actual 123 percent for fiscal 2021. For Republicans to oppose raising the debt ceiling, and to frame this hostage-taking as a commitment to fiscal restraint, is the height of hypocrisy when their administrations have been in charge during most of the debt increase of the past 40 years.

Those are facts. But please go on about how Biden could have just waved his magic wand. Lol

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[quote=punch it in;1329468]What is the rush to know who wins the seats in November? Does it change anything? Serious question. If we knew a week ago the result of every seat would it matter other than for us to say haha we won?[/quote]

Call me old fashioned, but I come from a land where election day use to mean something.

Also, it definitely creates more doubt about the elections for lots of people. When it takes weeks to figure out, there will be more people that will think something fishy is going on than if results came in right away.

Why can't people send in their ballots 2 weeks before? Is 14 days a huge difference? The elections are every 2 years. I don't think it's asking too much for people that don't want to vote in person to request and send in their ballots 2 weeks early. If there was a deadline, people would meet that deadline if they really cared about voting.

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[quote=SunnySide;1328713]The Federal Reserve likely will need to push unemployment far higher than its 4.1 percent projection if it is to succeed in bringing inflation down to its 2 percent target by the end of 2024, suggests a paper discussed at the Brookings Papers on Economic Activity (BPEA) conference on September 8.

[url]https://www.brookings.edu/bpea-articles/understanding-u-s-inflation-during-the-covid-era/[/url]

Dont worry .. Dems and Biden will get all the blame for this global covid inflation/recession and come 2024, just when the sun is starting to peak out ... an R president will take credit for inheriting a growing recovering economy.

Good thing grown ups are in charge for the 4 years when we need grown ups in charge to clean up this covid mess and not people who would just deflect and blame others.

America ... even those red hate filled states ... youre welcome.[/quote]

The grownups who policy decisions lead us here which we can once again point too and clearly how we got here.

Democrats lead us to record inflation and then lied about it, fentanyl deaths, record energy prices, contributed to the Covid crisis with not having testing ready for the omicron wave, masked children for zero reason and kept businesses and schools shutdown….didn’t see the baby formula shortage, couldn’t stop Putin from European war, record illegals crossing, Afghanistan debacle where soldiers died.

The gaslighting ain’t gonna work…the excuse making when y’all were in charge ain’t gonna work.

The buck stops at the clown in the White House.

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[quote=punch it in;1329472]Second, the national debt (adjusted for inflation) increased more rapidly under the past four Republican administrations — at an average annual rate of 10.2 percent during the Reagan administration, 8.2 percent and 5.9 percent during the two Bush administrations, and 6.8 percent during the Trump administration — compared with only 1.6 percent and 4.6 percent during the Clinton and Obama administrations, respectively.
If those four Republican administrations had been as fiscally responsible as their Democratic counterparts, the national debt would be about 70 percent lower than it is, increasing from 31 percent of gross national product in 1981 to 37 percent today — rather than the actual 123 percent for fiscal 2021. For Republicans to oppose raising the debt ceiling, and to frame this hostage-taking as a commitment to fiscal restraint, is the height of hypocrisy when their administrations have been in charge during most of the debt increase of the past 40 years.

Those are facts. But please go on about how Biden could have just waved his magic wand. Lol[/quote]

“Those are the facts”….lol.

The excuse making for this economy ain’t gonna work. It’s completely owned by this administration.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1329473]Call me old fashioned, but I come from a land where election day use to mean something.

Also, it definitely creates more doubt about the elections for lots of people. When it takes weeks to figure out, there will be more people that will think something fishy is going on than if results came in right away.

Why can't people send in their ballots 2 weeks before? Is 14 days a huge difference? The elections are every 2 years. I don't think it's asking too much for people that don't want to vote in person to request and send in their ballots 2 weeks early. If there was a deadline, people would meet that deadline if they really cared about voting.[/QUOTE]


Election day does mean something. But it is just symbolic. Every vote means something. Its a process that is all. Im not in favor of speeding up or changing the rules to appease conspiracy theorists though. If people think something fishy is going on it is because they are paranoid and or unhappy with the results they see. Oh well. It changes nothing if we know who holds every seat sooner. Other than, like you said, to appease the people who “think” something fishy is going on. [emoji2371]

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[quote=punch it in;1329468]What is the rush to know who wins the seats in November? Does it change anything? Serious question. If we knew a week ago the result of every seat would it matter other than for us to say haha we won?[/quote]

[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1329319]These are the checks in place to ensure mail ballots are cou nted accurately and not part of fraud. While I would be okay if mail in ballotin g finished earlier I don't think it would negate the problem of timeliness. We still have issues with in person counting for various reasons and then there are legalities of denying people access to voting if they were planning to vote in person but in the last two weeks there is something that prevents them, (jury duty for example). I get it though it is annoying.[/quote]

It's more than annoying, it is damaging. The delays feed lies and conspiracy theories which undermine our democracy. There are best practices out there (from large states) that show the count can be completed on election day. Implement those practices.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1329475]“Those are the facts”….lol.

The excuse making for this economy ain’t gonna work. It’s completely owned by this administration.[/QUOTE]


No. It is not. Everyone knew in February of 2020 a recession was possible because of Trumps handling of the economy for four years. There were rumblings of a recession well before that actually. But you and others ignored it because you and others think that our pocket books feel the economy in real time. They don’t. Republican administrations and their fiscal irresponsibility have started the last four recessions. Fact. Than Democratic administrations have to bail them out, and that is not simple to do. Im not going to go back and forth with you because you clearly do not understand how a recession works. It isn’t instant. It takes time for it to come back to us. People were saying this in 2018, 19, and 20. You refused to listen.

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Lol…it’s Trumps fault. Ain’t gonna work.

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[quote=Chico23231;1329480]Lol…it’s Trumps fault. Ain’t gonna work.[/quote]

Not to you but you're ignorant so you wouldn't understand anyway.

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[quote=punch it in;1329476]Election day does mean something. But it is just symbolic. Every vote means something. Its a process that is all. [B]Im not in favor of speeding up or changing the rules[/B] to appease conspiracy theorists though. If people think something fishy is going on it is because they are paranoid and or unhappy with the results they see. Oh well. It changes nothing if we know who holds every seat sooner. Other than, like you said, to appease the people who “think” something fishy is going on. [emoji2371][/quote]

Then all elections should revert back to pre-Covid rules across the board. Because elections have certainly changed since 2018.

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One thing that needs to be illegal when it comes to elections is vote curing. Looks like that is going on in Boebert's district right now. I can't stand her and vote curing could cause her to lose but it is a practice that could undermine the will of the voters. Patty Murray is a Senator because of vote curing. Years ago she was trailing in the vote count and vote curing turned the election for her. They got a list of all the voters with issues and went to each house - and stated they were doing a post election survey. They asked the voters who they had voted for - if they voted for her opponent they thanked them for the info and left, if they voted for Murray they got the voter to the polling station to fix their vote. This occurred weeks after the election. Apparently there were a lot more thank you for your time than there were come with me responses. (So in reality she got fewer votes but won because of this practice).

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Generally I think we want as many people who want to vote, to get their vote counted. If there was minor defect that prevented a persons ballot from being counted ... we should want that persons vote counted.

But I could see vote curing being unfair ... if one campaign has means to go door to door and the other doesnt.

Flip side ... Civil Rights Act of 1964 says no vote can be discarded for reasons not material to their voter eligibility.

Republicans in PA and their State conservative Court and then the conservative SCOTUS .. are not counting mail in ballots that dont have hand written dates on the outside of envelopes. Writing a date on an envelope is not part of voter eligibility.

As long as conservatives create more administrative road blocks to discourage people from voting .. then I hope Dems have a strong vote curing game.

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Republicans want and create road blocks to voting.

Maricopa County AZ is big blue county in a red state ... since 2012 and the Shelby decision, AZ has closed 171 voting stations in Maricopa County.

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[quote=SunnySide;1329491]Generally I think we want as many people who want to vote, to get their vote counted. If there was minor defect that prevented a persons ballot from being counted ... we should want that persons vote counted.

But I could see vote curing being unfair ... if one campaign has means to go door to door and the other doesnt.

Flip side ... Civil Rights Act of 1964 says no vote can be discarded for reasons not material to their voter eligibility.

[B]Republicans in PA and their State conservative Court and then the conservative SCOTUS .. are not counting mail in ballots that dont have hand written dates on the outside of envelopes. Writing a date on an envelope is not part of voter eligibility. [/B]

As long as conservatives create more administrative road blocks to discourage people from voting .. then I hope Dems have a strong vote curing game.

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Republicans want and create road blocks to voting.

Maricopa County AZ is big blue county in a red state ... since 2012 and the Shelby decision, AZ has closed 171 voting stations in Maricopa County.[/quote]

Handwritten dates by the people actually voting? That doesn't even make sense. You could just write any date you wanted on there even if you did vote late.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1329495]Handwritten dates by the people actually voting? That doesn't even make sense. You could just write any date you wanted on there even if you did vote late.[/quote]

[url]https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/11/politics/pennsylvania-undated-ballot-counting-david-ritter-supreme-court[/url]

[url]https://www.npr.org/2022/11/05/1102467273/midterm-elections-2022-pennsylvania-undated-ballots[/url]

Not the most interesting reads ...

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1329480]Lol…it’s Trumps fault. Ain’t gonna work.[/QUOTE]


Yeah because 2016-2020 decisions made about the deficit and the economy have zero to do with now. As soon as Trump left office the economy doesn’t reset. I feel like im talking to a child.

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[QUOTE=nonniey;1329484]One thing that needs to be illegal when it comes to elections is vote curing. Looks like that is going on in Boebert's district right now. I can't stand her and vote curing could cause her to lose but it is a practice that could undermine the will of the voters. Patty Murray is a Senator because of vote curing. Years ago she was trailing in the vote count and vote curing turned the election for her. They got a list of all the voters with issues and went to each house - and stated they were doing a post election survey. They asked the voters who they had voted for - if they voted for her opponent they thanked them for the info and left, if they voted for Murray they got the voter to the polling station to fix their vote. This occurred weeks after the election. Apparently there were a lot more thank you for your time than there were come with me responses. (So in reality she got fewer votes but won because of this practice).[/QUOTE]


Vote curing is “supposed “ to be if a mail in is missing a signature or something the voter has an opportunity to verify his or her identity, come in, and fix their ballot after being verified. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Whatever happened with Patty Murray is certainly not the norm.

Do you have a link about this curing scandal and patty murray?

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[quote=punch it in;1329514]Yeah because 2016-2020 decisions made about the deficit and the economy have zero to do with now. As soon as Trump left office the economy doesn’t reset. I feel like im talking to a child.[/quote]

children are smarter then chico.

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This fucking guy

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[quote=MTK;1329556]This fucking guy

[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221117/d28657fa7e4f256fd1d8355d461cd4a4.jpg[/IMG]

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To be fair lol, I'd rather be a werewolf than a vampire too.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1329558]To be fair lol, I'd rather be a werewolf than a vampire too.[/QUOTE]


Id rather be anything or anybody than Herschel Walker. What a fuckin dumb clown show.

I tried to keep it classy since it isn’t a game day thread.

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Republican Reps. James Comer and Jim Jordan alleged at a press conference Thursday that President Biden was actively involved in overseas business dealings alongside his son Hunter.

Comer, citing whistleblowers, asserted that the Biden family "flourished and became millionaires by simply offering access to the family."

"Was Joe Biden directly involved with Hunter Biden's business deals and is he compromised? That's our investigation," Comer said.

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-republicans-allege-biden-directly-involved-business-dealings-son-hunter[/url]

Conservatives say they dont care what Trump did or didnt do before he was President.
Suddenly they care.

Conservatives didnt care that the Trump family made millions maybe a billion doing foreign family business while Trump was president and his kids were cabinet members.
Suddenly they care if Bidens son made money doing foreign business .. while his dad held no position with the US govt.

lol

what ever conservatives, youre a joke

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[quote=SunnySide;1329567]Republican Reps. James Comer and Jim Jordan alleged at a press conference Thursday that President Biden was actively involved in overseas business dealings alongside his son Hunter.

Comer, citing whistleblowers, asserted that the Biden family "flourished and became millionaires by simply offering access to the family."

"Was Joe Biden directly involved with Hunter Biden's business deals and is he compromised? That's our investigation," Comer said.

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-republicans-allege-biden-directly-involved-business-dealings-son-hunter[/url]

Conservatives say they dont care what Trump did or didnt do before he was President.
Suddenly they care.

Conservatives didnt care that the Trump family made millions maybe a billion doing foreign family business while Trump was president and his kids were cabinet members.
Suddenly they care if Bidens son made money doing foreign business .. while his dad held no position with the US govt.

lol

what ever conservatives, youre a joke[/quote]

[IMG]https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2019/10/biden-archer2.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1488[/IMG]

Biden lied and said he never met or discussed Hunter business

While VP. Definitely influence buying going on with Ukraine oligarch owned gas company.

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[quote=MTK;1329556]This fucking guy

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Doesn’t beat the “Swimming is racist” comment.

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[YT]THj7ItSpAzY[/YT]

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[quote=Chico23231;1329569]Doesn’t beat the “Swimming is racist” comment.[/quote]

He's your guy!

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[quote=Chico23231;1329569]Doesn’t beat the “Swimming is racist” comment.[/quote]

Access to swimming pools is disproportionate. But I view swimming as a country club sport like tennis, hockey .. so its not "racist" imo, its just inherently baked into the american apple pie that the haves have and dont haves dont have.

Getting public pools into poor areas would be a great thing. Give the kids some happiness, something to do.

To be poor as a kid is to be bored out of your mind. I grew up on flour + water = milk, going to bed before the sun went down and now I know why, we didnt have food so my mom put us to be bed early hoping wed go to sleep. Sleeping youre not hungry.

When I lived in Baltimore City it was nice driving by the public pool and seeing kids laughing and having fun. Then one summer it never got filled or opened .. and it remained closed for years after.

Theres just as many dirt poor white kids in West Virginia without food as there are black kids in east baltimore.

Focus on the poor and the kids.

get free school lunches and have it go 365, in summer as well.

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[quote=SunnySide;1329573]Access to swimming pools is disproportionate. But I view swimming as a country club sport like tennis, hockey .. so its not "racist" imo, its just inherently baked into the american apple pie that the haves have and dont haves dont have.

Getting public pools into poor areas would be a great thing. Give the kids some happiness, something to do.

To be poor as a kid is to be bored out of your mind. I grew up on flour + water = milk, going to bed before the sun went down and now I know why, we didnt have food so my mom put us to be bed early hoping wed go to sleep. Sleeping youre not hungry.

When I lived in Baltimore City it was nice driving by the public pool and seeing kids laughing and having fun. Then one summer it never got filled or opened .. and it remained closed for years after.

Theres just as many dirt poor white kids in West Virginia without food as there are black kids in east baltimore.

Focus on the poor and the kids.

get free school lunches and have it go 365, in summer as well.[/quote]
I understand your sentiment ,I would like to add that there are plenty of poor white and black children that grew up near an Ocean or Lake or river and went swimming or enjoyed the water.

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[quote=punch it in;1329515]Vote curing is “supposed “ to be if a mail in is missing a signature or something the voter has an opportunity to verify his or her identity, come in, and fix their ballot after being verified. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Whatever happened with Patty Murray is certainly not the norm.

Do you have a link about this curing scandal and patty murray?[/quote]

Sorry my memory failed me it was the Washington Governor race between Gregoire and Rossi in 2004 not Murray's and technically it wasn't a scandal as the Dem effort in identifying ballots favoring them was legal while the GOP didn't put any extra effort into finding post election ballots that hadn't been counted.

[url]https://www.king5.com/article/news/politics/elections/washingtons-2004-race-between-gregoire-and-rossi-the-closest-governors-race-in-us-history/281-920546ef-b314-49e1-a983-aead104d1eea[/url]

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1329570][YT]THj7ItSpAzY[/YT][/QUOTE]


Talk about a puppet. This guy has absolutely no business managing a hot dog stand let alone being a Senator. It isn’t even just the stupid shit he says. He is a failed and fraudulent business owner, lied about being in law enforcement and paying a woman to have an abortion and this is just the best … and by best I mean the worst….

“In the aftermath of the Robb Elementary School shooting that resulted in the deaths of 19 children and two teachers, Walker was asked about his position on solutions to school shootings. Walker replied, "Cain killed Abel. You know, and that's a problem that we have. And I say what we need to do is look into how we can stop those things".[71] Walker then said that he supported "a department that can look at young men that's looking at women that's looking at social media".[70] Walker supports increased government spending on mental health care as a partial solution to gun violence. When asked about his position on gun control legislation, he replied "what I like to do is see it and everything and stuff."[70]”

“What I like to do is see it and everything and stuff” LMAO - he speaks fluent Trump!

He is just like Trump. All he has is a famous name. His weapon of choice is lying. Every business he ever touched turns to dirt after he rips a bunch of people off. I mean no wonder they support each other. The fact that one was President and one might be a Senator is surely proof that the World is ending.

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[quote=MTK;1328401][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhIPARoXwAEUiyM?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG]

lol buh bye bobo[/quote]

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As a perfect example.

Boebert is far right. She's a shithead. I don't support idiots like that.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1329647]As a perfect example.

Boebert is far right. She's a shithead. I don't support idiots like that.[/quote]

You support the party, they support her.