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Lotus 12-21-2011 10:47 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;869469]The Redskins signed Mike Hamlin, to their proctice squad. I thought he started allot of games for the Cowboys and got flam bayed, but his stats showed he really never played much. I wonder if anyone else remembers him playing for the Cowboys.[/quote]

Ken Hamlin was the one who started many games for the Boys.

T.O.Killa 12-21-2011 10:55 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=Lotus;869497]Ken Hamlin was the one who started many games for the Boys.[/quote]
Thanks, I had a brain freeze when I saw the name.

redskin29633 12-21-2011 10:59 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
Just a hunch, but I doubt that we see Hightower next season. Royster, Helu, and maybe one from the draft or a free agent. I really don't think Shanahan will want to play with damaged goods.

diehard 12-22-2011 01:18 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=redskin29633;869501]Just a hunch, but I doubt that we see Hightower next season. Royster, Helu, and maybe one from the draft or a free agent. I really don't think Shanahan will want to play with damaged goods.[/quote]

Players are subject to injuries. Hightower is young and he takes good care of his body. He's great value for what they traded to get him and what he brings to the table. Royster hasn't shown much and therefore he'll be back to the PS next year.

SirClintonPortis 12-22-2011 02:39 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
Hightower, even if he loses some of his speed, has hands and knows how to pass-pro. Those two skills will come in handy, even in a more limited role.

CultBrennan59 12-22-2011 10:46 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=diehard;869512]Players are subject to injuries. Hightower is young and he takes good care of his body. He's great value for what they traded to get him and what he brings to the table. Royster hasn't shown much and therefore he'll be back to the PS next year.[/quote]

how bout a LaMichael James? Helu has speed, but not that kind of speed.

skinsguy 12-22-2011 12:16 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=diehard;869512]Players are subject to injuries. Hightower is young and he takes good care of his body. He's great value for what they traded to get him and what he brings to the table.[B] Royster hasn't shown much and therefore he'll be back to the PS next year.[/B][/quote]

He hasn't shown as much as Helu, but he had some nice runs against the Giants in relief of Helu. I say Roster gets more playing time next season.

freddyg12 12-22-2011 12:41 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=skinsguy;869572]He hasn't shown as much as Helu, but he had some nice runs against the Giants in relief of Helu. I say [B]Roster[/B] gets more playing time next season.[/quote]

Indeed, we need more playing time from the [I]Roster[/I] next year. If we can't get more playing time from the [I]Roster[/I] where is it going to come from? Put this on the list as one of the major questions for 2012.

Chico23231 12-22-2011 12:47 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
Some guys get it faster than others. Watching Royster run in the begginning of the season vs the last several weeks is night and day. He is def in the plans for next season and deserves to be.

freddyg12 12-22-2011 12:50 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=Chico23231;869581]Some guys get it faster than others. Watching Royster run in the begginning of the season vs the last several weeks is night and day. He is def in the plans for next season and deserves to be.[/quote]

Agreed, in preseason he looked way too slow to even be on an nfl roster. the coaches knew he was capable of more. gotta like the way they brought along he, helu & Hank.

REDSKINS4ever 12-22-2011 01:00 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
It's apparent that Hankerson and Royster had rookie jitters in preseason. One was dropping passes while the other was fumbling. But they both took the time to develop and are in the run for lots of playing time next season. Hankerson, will be a starter I predict alongside Gaffney. This would make Santana the slot WR.

SirClintonPortis 12-22-2011 01:32 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;869556]how bout a LaMichael James? Helu has speed, but not that kind of speed.[/quote]

I believe that this system of Shanny's relies on excellent blockers at WR so guys with just Helu speed can take it to the house. More speed is nice, but vision and agility is more important (regardless of system). But there is no harm in taking a look, now is there. :D

Note: I've watched any college ball, so this is just a general statement.

skinsguy 12-22-2011 02:03 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=freddyg12;869576]Indeed, we need more playing time from the [I]Roster[/I] next year. If we can't get more playing time from the [I]Roster[/I] where is it going to come from? Put this on the list as one of the major questions for 2012.[/quote]


Yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks grammar police! ROYSTER. :doh:

SirClintonPortis 12-22-2011 02:09 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=skinsguy;869607]Yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks grammar police! ROYSTER. :doh:[/quote]

Spelling police, not grammar police, m8. ;)

skinsguy 12-22-2011 02:17 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=SirClintonPortis;869611]Spelling police, not grammar police, m8. ;)[/quote]

:doh: thread killers.

T.O.Killa 12-22-2011 04:14 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
I am starting to think we are going to get the biggest, fastest, and strongest saftey in the draft.

SirClintonPortis 12-22-2011 05:38 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;869652]I am starting to think we are going to get the biggest, fastest, and strongest saftey in the draft.[/quote]

Does he have an adequate brain and work ethic? And by "adequate brain", I mean being able to diagnose and then decide quickly yet correctly.

T.O.Killa 12-22-2011 06:36 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=SirClintonPortis;869694]Does he have an adequate brain and work ethic? And by "adequate brain", I mean being able to diagnose and then decide quickly yet correctly.[/quote]

No and he will account for 25% of all penalties we commit

redskin29633 12-22-2011 07:59 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;864252]i hope we are active in free agency. way too many holes just to count on the draft[/quote]

I think we will be an active free agency participant; too much on the line for the Shanahans to remain totally draft dependent & patient. Redskins need some immediate help to show measurable progress. Yet another 6-10 season in 2012 probably not good enough to save current regime.

skins89moss 12-23-2011 04:19 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;864242]I hope we don't bring them back.. Hell I forgot AA was on the team prior to last Sunday[/quote]

Yea AA and Torrain might get invited to camp but wont make the 53 man roster next year. Royster has surpassed ATV.

skins89moss 12-23-2011 04:20 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;864268]The Redskins will no doubt draft another running back. I'd be surprised if Torain doesn't end up on the team. But I think he's trade bait rather than the Redskins just releasing him.[/quote]

Why draft a RB when we have Hightower, Helu, and Royster on the roster. If we take another RB its later in the draft.

skins89moss 12-23-2011 04:23 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;864402]People are gonna say no everything no matter what. I personally like the WR corp of Hank, D Jax, and Moss in the slot and possibly using a 3rd or 4th rounder on a WR.[/quote]

What about Gaffney he is having a career year. he needs to come back.

skins89moss 12-23-2011 04:29 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=Ruhskins;864443]I dont know what DJax contract situation is like, but maybe if the Eagles would have paid him and gotten themselves a n OLine (instead of their stupid spending spree) they might be in a better place. I wouldnt mind Bowe either. Either of those guys, with Hank, Moss, Davis, and a healthy Cooley would be a helluva WR group for a young talented QB.[/quote]

Moss is getting older, and Cooley is starting to be injury prone. I still like Moss as a 3rd wr like Driver is in Green Bay.

skins89moss 12-23-2011 04:52 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
We need to find a RT replacement for Jamal Brown he is injured to often and cannot handle speed rushers. So we better get a RT in the draft. I like our O-line starting next year with as follow: LT-Trent/Wllie Smith LG-Hurt/Kory C-MONY/Kory RG-Chester LT-? /Brown/Tyler P. Our young O-lineman have really stepped up thus far. They will be tested by the Vikings and Eagles D-Line the next few weeks.

CultBrennan59 12-23-2011 11:35 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
chances that we get Luck? Definitely got better after last night!

SFREDSKIN 12-23-2011 11:47 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=skins89moss;869772]We need to find a RT replacement for Jamal Brown he is injured to often and cannot handle speed rushers. So we better get a RT in the draft. I like our O-line starting next year with as follow: LT-Trent/Wllie Smith LG-Hurt/Kory C-MONY/Kory RG-Chester LT-? /Brown/Tyler P. Our young O-lineman have really stepped up thus far. They will be tested by the Vikings and Eagles D-Line the next few weeks.[/quote]

Willie Smith will be our RT of the future, mark my words. Polumbus has done a decent job and belongs as a backup. Big test for Smith this weekend against Jared Allen w/ 17.5 sacks, can't wait to see how Smith does against him.

SFREDSKIN 12-23-2011 11:48 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;869652]I am starting to think we are going to get the biggest, fastest, and strongest saftey in the draft.[/quote]

We need a CB worse than S.

T.O.Killa 12-23-2011 01:12 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;869830]chances that we get Luck? Definitely got better after last night![/quote]
The Jags and the Colts are going to be in an all out dog fight to see which team losses. They are in the same division and they both have allot to lose by winning. Lets just hope the Jags see it rationaly. Why would they want another 15 years of the Colts kicking their ass. Then lets hope that the Rams don't do something stupid like win a game. We already seem to have a good relationship with the Rams, assuming Devany does not get fired.

SirClintonPortis 12-23-2011 03:12 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;869841]The Jags and the Colts are going to be in an all out dog fight to see which team losses. They are in the same division and they both have allot to lose by winning. Lets just hope the Jags see it rationaly. Why would they want another 15 years of the Colts kicking their ass. Then lets hope that the Rams don't do something stupid like win a game. We already seem to have a good relationship with the Rams, assuming Devany does not get fired.[/quote]

I thought it was immoral to [B]desire[/B] your team to lose even one game even with another 15 years of suffering staring in your face? Jacksonville is committing a crime of epic proportions if they roll over. ;)

SFREDSKIN 12-23-2011 05:15 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
Another WR free agent available after this season who's currently on IR and I think is a steal is Josh Morgan of the 49ers. He's from DC and I would sign him before any other FA WR.

That Guy 12-23-2011 07:19 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;869861]Another WR free agent available after this season who's currently on IR and I think is a steal is Josh Morgan of the 49ers. He's from DC and I would sign him before any other FA WR.[/quote]

bowe, mike wallace, vincent or desean jackson, wes welker, colston, garcon, manningham, reggie wayne...

SFREDSKIN 12-23-2011 07:32 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=That Guy;869877]bowe, mike wallace, vincent or desean jackson, wes welker, colston, garcon, manningham, reggie wayne...[/quote]

Bowe, Wallace, Welker, Colston, VJ and DJ are going nowhere. Josh Morgan is a sleeper, you probably haven't seen much from him.

That Guy 12-23-2011 09:40 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
and i really don't want to. not when better options are present. if we can't get a real #1 why bother wasting the money? we've got more #2s than we know what to do with.

SkinItup 12-24-2011 07:17 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=redskin29633;869708]I think we will be an active free agency participant; too much on the line for the Shanahans to remain totally draft dependent & patient. Redskins need some immediate help to show measurable progress. Yet another 6-10 season in 2012 probably not good enough to save current regime.[/quote]

I disagree. If we have a rookie qb next year, the Shannys will be ok as long as they don't go 2-14 or the qb looks like a complete bust. The 4th year is when he has to make at least a playoff push because they won't let him enter the lame duck year with having made progress.

SkinItup 12-25-2011 04:00 AM

2012 redskins roster wishlist
 
So in honor of Christmas, I present my hopeful redskins roster for next year. I doubt this will be the case. I did however make it somewhat plausible, i.e. we are not going to be able to draft RG3, Blackmon, and Riley Reiff in this years draft because they are all going in the first round. Instead i picked draftees across a range of rounds to fill some of our needs. Without farther ado


2012 redskins roster wish list:

Qb- RG3, Grossman, and Ryan Wilson

Rb- Helu, Royster, Young and Peyton Hillis

Wr- Vincent Jackson, Moss, Hankerson, Gaffney, Paul, and Banks

Ol- Williams, Ben Grubbs, Ben Jones, Chester, and Willie Smith; Brown, Montgomery, and Lichtensteiger

Te- Davis, Cooley, and Paulsen

Dl- Bowen, Cofield, and Jenkins; Carriker, Nelid, Marcus Forstons, and Golston

Lb- Orakpo, Riley, Fletcher, and Kerrigan; Jackson, Keayon, Alexander, Tank Carder, and White

Db- Hall, Wilson, Atogwe, and Landry; Gomes, Doughty, Matt Merletti, Westbrook, Barnes, Tashaun Gipson, and Thompson.

P- Rocca

K-Danny Hrapmann


So there it is, Share your hopeful rosters and begin mocking/supporting mine.

vallin21 12-25-2011 08:46 AM

Re: 2012 redskins roster wishlist
 
[quote=SkinItup;870130]So in honor of Christmas, I present my hopeful redskins roster for next year. I doubt this will be the case. I did however make it somewhat plausible, i.e. we are not going to be able to draft RG3, Blackmon, and Riley Reiff in this years draft because they are all going in the first round. Instead i picked draftees across a range of rounds to fill some of our needs. Without farther ado


2012 redskins roster wish list:

Qb- RG3, Grossman, and Ryan Wilson

Rb- Helu, Royster, Young and Peyton Hillis

Wr- Vincent Jackson, Moss, Hankerson, Gaffney, Paul, and Banks

Ol- Williams, Ben Grubbs, Ben Jones, Chester, and Willie Smith; Brown, Montgomery, and Lichtensteiger

Te- Davis, Cooley, and Paulsen

Dl- Bowen, Cofield, and Jenkins; Carriker, Nelid, Marcus Forstons, and Golston

Lb- Orakpo, Riley, Fletcher, and Kerrigan; Jackson, Keayon, Alexander, Tank Carder, and White

[B]Db- Hall, Wilson, Atogwe, and Landry[/B]; Gomes, Doughty, Matt Merletti, Westbrook, Barnes, Tashaun Gipson, and Thompson.

P- Rocca

K-Danny Hrapmann


So there it is, Share your hopeful rosters and begin mocking/supporting mine.[/quote]

This is my biggest concern with your wishlist... No true cover CB or FS? I doubt Doughty will be back, and Gomes has been underwhelming at FS... WE JUST CANNOT HAVE THE SAME STARTING SECONDARY IN '12 BACK FROM THIS YR... Gano IMO has been good enough late to keep his job, and V-Jax is 1 DUI/DWI from being out for a season... This is a wishlist, but I think our needs at CB and S need to be more of a priority (in the offseason).

mooby 12-25-2011 09:02 AM

Re: 2012 redskins roster wishlist
 
Isn't this what the 2012 Redskins thread is about?

cdskins26 12-25-2011 09:45 AM

Re: 2012 redskins roster wishlist
 
[quote=SkinItup;870130]So in honor of Christmas, I present my hopeful redskins roster for next year. I doubt this will be the case. I did however make it somewhat plausible, i.e. we are not going to be able to draft RG3, Blackmon, and Riley Reiff in this years draft because they are all going in the first round. Instead i picked draftees across a range of rounds to fill some of our needs. Without farther ado


2012 redskins roster wish list:

Qb- RG3, Grossman, and Ryan Wilson

Rb- Helu, Royster, Young and Peyton Hillis

Wr- [B]Vincent Jackson[/B], Moss, Hankerson, Gaffney, Paul, and Banks

Ol- Williams, Ben Grubbs, Ben Jones, Chester, and Willie Smith; Brown, Montgomery, and Lichtensteiger

Te- Davis, Cooley, and Paulsen

Dl- Bowen, Cofield, and Jenkins; Carriker, Nelid, Marcus Forstons, and Golston

Lb- Orakpo, Riley, Fletcher, and Kerrigan; Jackson, Keayon, Alexander, Tank Carder, and White

Db- Hall, Wilson, Atogwe, and Landry; Gomes, Doughty, Matt Merletti, Westbrook, Barnes, Tashaun Gipson, and Thompson.

P- Rocca

K-Danny Hrapmann


So there it is, Share your hopeful rosters and begin mocking/supporting mine.[/quote]

VJAX still scares me as a prospective FA. I want a receiver who hasnt declined the last year or two. Give me bowe

SFREDSKIN 12-25-2011 11:31 AM

Re: 2012 redskins roster wishlist
 
There's no need to replace Gano, while Hall needs to go.

EARTHQUAKE2689 12-25-2011 11:45 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
DeSean Jackson could be here.


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