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[quote=GMScud;782967]Yeah A-Rod is a beast of a QB. Good for him and the Packer nation.[/quote]

We should call him Double A-Rod or AA-Rod.

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Fewest rushing attempts in SB history

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Congrats to the Packers and their fans. Very well-deserved win!

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Two really class organizations. Good ol Mark Murphy! Great to see you.
Rodgers is a perfect face of a franchise.
I really liked hearing that Steelers coach Tomlin waited at the locker room door and thank each of his players for a successful season. Class move. Shanahan can learn from him.

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Contrats to pitt also, they are a great organization with a class coach. Sure their not an exciting team to watch but they win bottom line

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;782982]We should call him Double A-Rod or AA-Rod.[/quote]

Or something different. The media has gotten lazy with nicknames, and just recycle old ones (see LT for Tomlinson)

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So does this win mean that spread offense is no longer a dirty word/phrase in the NFL?

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[quote=Dirtbag359;782989]So does this win mean that spread offense is no longer a dirty word/phrase in the NFL?[/quote]

I think when u have a QB u can do anytjing

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[quote=Defensewins;782986]Two really class organizations. Good ol Mark Murphy! Great to see you.
Rodgers is a perfect face of a franchise.
I really liked hearing that Steelers coach Tomlin waited at the locker room door and thank each of his players for a successful season. Class move. [B]Shanahan can learn from him.[/B][/quote]

No, Shanahan is infallible. [/sarcasm]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;782990]I think when u have a QB u can do anytjing[/quote]

And receivers and great defense.

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[quote=Ruhskins;782992]And receivers and great defense.[/quote]

Yes but it all starts at qb

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[quote=skinsfaninok;782993]Yes but it all starts at qb[/quote]

Well that's not our only answer unfortunately.

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[quote=Defensewins;782986]Two really class organizations. Good ol Mark Murphy! Great to see you.
Rodgers is a perfect face of a franchise.
I really liked hearing that Steelers coach Tomlin waited at the locker room door and thank each of his players for a successful season. Class move. Shanahan can learn from him.[/quote]

You had to bring Shanny into this didn't you?

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;782997]You had to bring Shanny into this didn't you?[/quote]

its ok we will have our day

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[quote=Defensewins;782986]Two really class organizations. Good ol Mark Murphy! Great to see you.
Rodgers is a perfect face of a franchise.
I really liked hearing that Steelers coach Tomlin waited at the locker room door and thank each of his players for a successful season. Class move. [B] Shanahan can learn from him.[/B][/quote]
I would say, watch the SB replays of Shanahan's wins. Or listen to schlereth talk about him as a coach. Mike Tomlin knows every player on his team, helped pick them or purposefully kept them - yes I know Shanahan brought in McNabb... I think that after a season (maybe two) of pruning out certain types of players that we have had in the past we will see a much more cohesive group going forward.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;782993]Yes but it all starts at qb[/quote]



........I disagree starts up front on the Oline,once the QB can get some time good things happen.

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[quote=Defensewins;782986]Two really class organizations. Good ol Mark Murphy! Great to see you.
Rodgers is a perfect face of a franchise.
I really liked hearing that Steelers coach Tomlin waited at the locker room door and thank each of his players for a successful season. Class move. Shanahan can learn from him.[/quote]

Tomlin has become on of my favorite coaches. I just like the way the guy goes about his business. No game playing, no my way or the highway type of crap, simply a great hire.

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Rogers was clearly the difference. He might be the best pure passer I've seen in a while. How many drops did he have? The score could've been worse if his guys could hang on to the ball. And our former Redskin, Ryan Clark kinda had a rough night. And great kick Suisham! lol.

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I like the way GB uses 2 sometimes 3 backs in their offense at the same time.

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A couple of things to mention:

First, notice how stale Green Bay's offense went in the third quarter when they abandoned the run. One reason why I feel the Steelers were able to mount a comeback is that the Packers started becoming way too one dimensional. If they would have stuck with the running game, especially when they were up 21-10, then I believe they would have shortened the game and kept the Steeler's offense off the field.

Secondly, a lot of dropped passes! If at least half of those dropped passes were caught, the Packers probably could have put the game away much sooner.

My hat's off to the Packers. I was happy to see Aaron Rodgers get his first Super Bowl ring and receive MVP honors on top of that.

As much as I hate the Pittsburgh Steelers, I do respect Mike Tomlin. He is a classy guy and I'm sure he will have the Steelers back in the thick of things again next season (whenever that next season is.)

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With how young the Packers are, this could definitely be the start of a dynasty. Amazing how they overcame so many injuries. Once they get everyone back they could be even better next year.

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[quote=Giantone;783019]........I disagree starts up front on the Oline,once the QB can get some time good things happen.[/quote]

Yeah but a QB is the PG of the team, you can win SBs with avg lines.. GB and Pitt both are far from great OLines.

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[quote=skinsguy;783031]A couple of things to mention:

First, notice how stale Green Bay's offense went in the third quarter when they abandoned the run. One reason why I feel the Steelers were able to mount a comeback is that the Packers started becoming way too one dimensional. If they would have stuck with the running game, especially when they were up 21-10, then I believe they would have shortened the game and kept the Steeler's offense off the field.

[B]Secondly, a lot of dropped passes! If at least half of those dropped passes were caught, the Packers probably could have put the game away much sooner. [/B]My hat's off to the Packers. I was happy to see Aaron Rodgers get his first Super Bowl ring and receive MVP honors on top of that.

As much as I hate the Pittsburgh Steelers, I do respect Mike Tomlin. He is a classy guy and I'm sure he will have the Steelers back in the thick of things again next season (whenever that next season is.)[/quote]

Ive watched a fair amount of Green Bay games this year, I was generally shocked by the amount of drops by their recievers all year. Jennings and James Jones seem to be the main culprits, Nelson dropped 3 yesterday. I wouldnt be surprised if Green Bay grabs receiver(s) in the draft, especially with their best hands guy, Driver, probably retiring.

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Jordy Nelson was all or nothing yesterday... Rodgers would have had close to 400 yards if you took away those drops.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;783034]Yeah but a QB is the PG of the team,[B] you can win SBs with avg lines..[/B] GB and Pitt both are far from great OLines.[/quote]

I don't know if I agree with that. Historically, the teams that win Super Bowls usually are solid, above average up front. GB's OL had improved a lot this year, and Pitt's OL was nothing to scuff at.

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GB and Pitt have decent o-lines, nothing special. What makes them look better than they are is the QB's. Rodgers gets the ball out quick and moves well in the pocket, and Ben can scramble around and make things happen.

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[quote=Mattyk;783042]GB and Pitt have decent o-lines, nothing special. What makes them look better than they are is the QB's. Rodgers gets the ball out quick and moves well in the pocket, and Ben can scramble around and make things happen.[/quote]

Exactly

QBs are the most important part if a team

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[quote=skinsfan69;783023]Tomlin has become on of my favorite coaches. I just like the way the guy goes about his business. No game playing, no my way or the highway type of crap, simply a great hire.[/quote]

The Steelers really are something else. Known, deservedly so, for the loyalty they show, they choose to bypass two fairly obvious coach in waiting candidates in Whisenhunt and Grimm and take a guy who was defensive coordinator for one year with no ties to the Steelers and make him one of the youngest head coaches ever. That would totally blow up in our face, but it works for the Steelers.

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[quote=SmootSmack;783050]The Steelers really are something else. Known, deservedly so, for the loyalty they show, they choose to bypass two fairly obvious coach in waiting candidates in Whisenhunt and Grimm and take a guy who was defensive coordinator for one year with no ties to the Steelers and make him one of the youngest head coaches ever. That would totally blow up in our face, but it works for the Steelers.[/quote]

They have a clear model for success that starts at the top with Rooney.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;783034]Yeah but a QB is the PG of the team, you can win SBs with avg lines.. GB and Pitt both are far from great OLines.[/quote]

Well at least in the case of Green Bay, they were able to give their you QB some time to develop (I believe three years behind Favre I believe). I don't think Big Ben sat in the bench that long, but I believe he can to a pretty complete Pittsburgh team.

The QB position is important, but our team has made a terrible job of bringing in average to mediocre QBs behind mediocre to terrible offensive lines. And we don't develop our own QBs. Green Bay and Pittsburgh drafted their QBs and develop them into the elite players they are now.

The Redskins need to find a way to develop a young QB, and put him in a situation where he can survive the growing pains during the first season or two until they are good enough to compensate for a weak line, average receivers, and/or the lack of a running game.

We don't JUST need a QB, we need to follow the blueprint that teams like the Steelers and Packers have done in the past couple of seasons. And just saying that we need a QB is not enough in my opinion.

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Of course you need more than just a QB, but there's no doubt that teams with the big time QBs are the ones that are always in the hunt at season's end.

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[quote=wilsowilso;782685]Packers 31
Steelers 24[/quote]

Nice call. Randel El's 2-point conversion screwed ya...who saw that coming? :D

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[quote=Giantone;783019]........I disagree starts up front on the Oline,once the QB can get some time good things happen.[/quote]

Aaron Rodgers only has a decent O-Line as do the Steelers. Steelers get the nod because they can actually run the ball on a regular basis.

The main reason both QB's have been successful is because both Ben and Aaron have become masters of improvising and moving around while still remaining accurate. People were expecting the next evolution of QB's to be a bunch of guys like Vick but rather we ended up with a relatively large group of Steve Young incarnates. Plus with all the crazy blitz packages in the NFL these days it seems that you need either A) A QB with a ridiculously quick release (ie Peyton) or a guy with great pocket awareness and mobility (Big Ben, Rodgers).

Also keep in mind both Super Bowl QB's have been among the most sacked QB's over the course of the past two years. Our main problem as it relates to our problems up front is that we've had virtually 0 resources poured into our line before 2010 (where we saw 5 players added).

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And yet the redskins streak of playing the super bowl winning team the past 4 years stands.

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Was it just me or did Randel El celebrate his catches like he had score TD's. He was the only one that I noticed over celebrating everything they did.

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[quote=firstdown;783218]Was it just me or did Randel El celebrate his catches like he had score TD's. He was the only one that I noticed over celebrating everything they did.[/quote]

He's always done that stuff

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;782997]You had to bring Shanny into this didn't you?[/quote]

I did. Our franchise has things it can learn from the successful ones. The thing I notice the most on the winning teams is the players and coaches respect each other. No public throwing each other under the bus. They enjoy working together. What a concept.

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Meh, Shanahan made a gaffe when he first benched McNabb, but McNabb was a sick little bitchy ****ing coward with the whole agent ordeal.

[QUOTE=Defensewins;783223]I did. Our franchise has things it can learn from the successful ones. The thing I notice the most on the winning teams is the players and coaches respect each other. No public throwing each other under the bus. They enjoy working together. What a concept.[/QUOTE]

Like Tiki and Tom Coughlin? Its a good general statement, but there is more to it then just that. And again Shanahan has been successful in the past and hopefully will be in the future.