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calia 09-12-2022 02:23 PM

Re: Jags Postgame
 
Awful. Was really looking forward to seeing what he could do this year.


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punch it in 09-12-2022 02:25 PM

Re: Jags Postgame
 
[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1321464]What did Jackson do wrong today to get so much hate?[/QUOTE]


It isn’t what he did. It is what he didn’t do. Cover his guy.

SunnySide 09-12-2022 02:41 PM

Re: Jags Postgame
 
[quote=punch it in;1321543]It isn’t what he did. It is what he didn’t do. Cover his guy.[/quote]

I find myself being a WJ3 defender bc everything pointed to him being a good physical corner. he checked a big box for us.

one valid defense .. he excelled at man playing up on his guy in Cincy .. and we use our corners in zone off the LOS.

I only got to watch the 4Q and didnt get to pause, rewind etc this game so I dont know what we were asking our outside corners to do but we didnt play a lot of man last year. We signed a really good physical man corner ... and we play him in soft zone. Why even sign him if we were going to square peg a circle thing with him?

he reminds me of breeland. a good physical corner, always around ball but guys seem to make contested catches on him. hes in position, just a fingernail short at times.

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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aosepuuGeIg[/url]

Quick scroll through first half highlights .. on D plays shown, we played tight man on outside to start game then every D formation shown was outside corners playing 10 yards off

Lots of soft zone by outside corners per the highlights

SunnySide 09-12-2022 03:17 PM

Re: Jags Postgame
 
Finding snap counts for this team the day after a game is always an issue. Google "commanders snap count week 1" and first hit is a jaguars snap count breakdown.

Ben Standig has them

Sims had 8 snaps, Dyanmi Brown only had 3 ..

Defense - holcomb played 100%, jamin Davis 93% ... so we played at least nickel or more 93% of the snaps

Smith-Williams 37 snaps, Toothill 30, Obada 21

[url]https://twitter.com/BenStandig/status/1569281457494888448/[/url]

skinsfaninok 09-12-2022 03:19 PM

Re: Jags Postgame
 
[quote=SunnySide;1321549]Finding snap counts for this team the day after a game is always an issue. Google "commanders snap count week 1" and first hit is a jaguars snap count breakdown.

Ben Standig has them

Sims had 8 snaps, Dyanmi Brown only had 3 ..

Defense - holcomb played 100%, jamin Davis 93% ... so we played at least nickel or more 93% of the snaps

Smith-Williams 37 snaps, Toothill 30, Obada 21

[url]https://twitter.com/BenStandig/status/1569281457494888448/[/url][/quote]

Not with PFF :)

SunnySide 09-12-2022 03:19 PM

Re: Jags Postgame
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1321525]Wentz had a 68 Grade yesterday (would have been 85 plus without the INTS)

Highest graded players on Offense
[B]Rogers = 90[/B]
Gibson = 85
Samuel = 75
Cosmi = 74

Defense

Forrest = 91
Payne = 77
Sweat = 71
Allen = 70[/quote]

he played 4 snaps on offense ... how is he even eligible for a grade?

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[url]https://twitter.com/Commanders/status/1569083323082854402?s=20&t=b2nSLw3c5nQb-Zn8omN8hg[/url]

^^ twitter link of coach RR post game team speech and Wentz game ball

I always like the post game in locker room videos

skinsfaninok 09-12-2022 03:20 PM

Re: Jags Postgame
 
BS Allowed 3 Hits and 1 sack yesterday.. Yikes, thats bad for JAX

GridIron26 09-12-2022 03:24 PM

Re: Jags Postgame
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1321552]BS Allowed 3 Hits and 1 sack yesterday.. Yikes, thats bad for JAX[/quote]

That's what happens when you play against Allen and Payne

EdmundDorf 09-12-2022 03:53 PM

Re: Jags Postgame
 
[quote=SunnySide;1321551]he played 4 snaps on offense ... how is he even eligible for a grade?

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[url]https://twitter.com/Commanders/status/1569083323082854402?s=20&t=b2nSLw3c5nQb-Zn8omN8hg[/url]

^^ twitter link of coach RR post game team speech and Wentz game ball

I always like the post game in locker room videos[/quote]

That was exactly my first reaction

skinsfan69 09-12-2022 04:10 PM

Re: Jags Postgame
 
I mentioned this a while ago, but if these guys can win some games 35-28 at least they will be fun to watch. W/ Samuel finally healthy and Dotson really looking like a nice pick, plus the size at TE and the pass catchers out of the backfield, Terry, Sims in the red zone... we got some serious dudes on offense. If Carson can just clean up the dumb shit, and even if he doesn't, this offense can put up some points. It's going to be hard to account for all these guys.

EARTHQUAKE2689 09-12-2022 04:13 PM

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[quote=MTK;1321513]Not only does Dotson have hands but his ability to track the ball is pretty special. Reminds me of Santana Moss or DeSean Jackson in that way. Just get the ball near them and chances are they will come down with it.[/quote]

I was thinking that too, his ball tracking ability is amazing. I always thought of Terry McLaurin like Marvin Harrison type

Dotson has the same explosive side but that catch radius of his is ridiculous for someone who is 5'11"

skinsfan69 09-12-2022 04:16 PM

Re: Jags Postgame
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1321525]Wentz had a 68 Grade yesterday (would have been 85 plus without the INTS)

Highest graded players on Offense
Rogers = 90
Gibson = 85
Samuel = 75
Cosmi = 74

Defense

Forrest = 91
Payne = 77
Sweat = 71
Allen = 70[/quote]

For a minute I thought we had a mini Sean Taylor out there. #22 was smacking the shit out of people, plus had a couple of nice break ups..

I don't think we are any good on defense but the name of the game for them will be turnovers. They gotta get the ball back to the offense a couple times a game.

SFREDSKIN 09-12-2022 04:38 PM

Re: Jags Postgame
 
Signed Donovan Jeter undrafted to replace Mathis, signed by Steelers. Here’s some scouting on him, he seems below average with good size.

Positives: Nice-sized defensive tackle who had an underwhelming college career. Fires off the snap with a quick first step, keeps his feet moving, and works his hands throughout the action. Flashes power in his lower body and bull rushes opponents off the line.

Negatives: Cannot get off blocks once engaged at the point and gets held up by lesser opponents. Gets very narrow-based in his setup.

Analysis: Jeter possesses next-level size as well as growth potential, yet he never presented himself as anything other than an average college backup.

calia 09-12-2022 06:39 PM

Re: Jags Postgame
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1321560]Signed Donovan Jeter undrafted to replace Mathis, signed by Steelers. Here’s some scouting on him, he seems below average with good size.

Positives: Nice-sized defensive tackle who had an underwhelming college career. Fires off the snap with a quick first step, keeps his feet moving, and works his hands throughout the action. Flashes power in his lower body and bull rushes opponents off the line.

Negatives: Cannot get off blocks once engaged at the point and gets held up by lesser opponents. Gets very narrow-based in his setup.

Analysis: Jeter possesses next-level size as well as growth potential, yet he never presented himself as anything other than an average college backup.[/quote]

Hard to get excited about this. Aren't there some FAs still out there that would be worth a look?

Chief X_Phackter 09-12-2022 07:24 PM

Re: Jags Postgame
 
I thought it was a good win. It's hard to know how a team will come out in week 1 - the first time a true game plan is put together, and all the starters are in for the majority of the game.

Considering all the new pieces I was pretty impressed with how the offense performed. When was the last time this team scored two TDs on their first two drives, and then ended the same game with a kneel down?

I thought the defense was pretty good collectively. They gave up 22 points, but 10 of those came off turnovers. Some individual players got beat, but the players on the other side are trying to make plays too. It happens, and will happen again.

Some keep talking about all the plays Jacksonville left out there, but so did Washington. "If Etienne made this catch, or if Lawrence didn't over throw this guy, if they didn't miss that FG..." I mean Washington turned the ball over three times, had dropped balls and penalties that killed drives, and still won. Don't get me wrong, the middle of the game was rough (Punt, Fumble, Punt, Punt, Interception, Interception), but the beginning and the end was very nice (TD, TD.....TD, TD, Kill the clock).

Nit-pickers will be nit-pickers, and that's all good. There's always room for improvement, but I think the Jaguars will be better than last year, and they will beat some good teams. It was a worthy opponent to start the season, and we got the W.


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