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Here's what my untrained eyes are seeing...

Looking purely at how some of the top d-linemen played in big games this year, I was a little underwhelmed. I want DL more than anyone, but I don't want us to waste a #17 pick either.

Myles Garrett (T A&M) against Alabama/LSU - not impressed
Caleb Brantley (Fla) against Alabama - non-factor
Derek Barnett (Tenn)- against Alabama - non-factor
Chris Wormly (Mich) - against Fla State - pedestrian
Montravious Adams (Aub) - against Alabama & Clemson - some flashes, some plays off

The guys I really liked so far - guys with high motors & forced an impact
Jonathan Allen (Ala)
Soloman Thomas (Stan)
Taco Charlton (Mich)
Malik McDowell (Mich St)

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I think Allen will be long gone by the time we pick. Charlton is my fav. He was so disruptive in the games I saw. Like you said, real high motor, quick first step, he has a burst and that's what's we're sorely missing. He'd be my pick at 17, if he's still there.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1164187]I think Allen will be long gone by the time we pick. Charlton is my fav. He was so disruptive in the games I saw. Like you said, real high motor, quick first step, he has a burst and that's what's we're sorely missing. He'd be my pick at 17, if he's still there.[/quote]

assuming you are right about Charlton and he is the pick, where does he play ? They have Kerrigan, Smith, Murphy, and maybe Galette .

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[quote=Irrefutable;1161932]Excellent answer, Thomas had 1 sack, several hurries, and 9 tackles in his bowl game. Before the game it appeared he would be available at # 17. It looks like a decent D line class, so a good one should be available.

The mock drafts are all over the place. And the combine has a big impact on picks, so it is still early.

Also will the new coach play a 4-3 ? Are they looking to replace Baker, or play next to him ? or a DE to replace Smith ?

Here is a good list;

[url=http://walterfootball.com/draft2017DE.php]WalterFootball.com: 2017 NFL Draft: Defensive End Rankings[/url][/quote]

They better decide on whether or not the 3-4 stays soon. If it is kept, you will need a couple LBs to be acquired in the offseason along with a bona fide NT, along with the obvious DTs that should be the top priority. IF they go to the 4-3 Kerrigan can go back being a DE and possibly become a real beast again. Draft any defensive line stud there is!!!!! We will have a nice unit if a couple seasons. I just hope Kirk doesn't get too greedy and lets us just give him a longer deal so we can keep a decent amount of cap space to get a solid team setup for a change.

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[quote=FlyerSkin;1164191][B]They better decide on whether or not the 3-4 stays soon.[/B] If it is kept, you will need a couple LBs to be acquired in the offseason along with a bona fide NT, along with the obvious DTs that should be the top priority. IF they go to the 4-3 Kerrigan can go back being a DE and possibly become a real beast again. Draft any defensive line stud there is!!!!! We will have a nice unit if a couple seasons. I just hope Kirk doesn't get too greedy and lets us just give him a longer deal so we can keep a decent amount of cap space to get a solid team setup for a change.[/quote]

Manusky already said he's sticking with the 3-4. He wants a big NT, but didn't say they had to draft one. I'm not sure there is a current stud NT out there, but with Tomsula on board, he may be able to coach some guy up.

Either way, we can always find room for a stud DE (Chris Baker needs re-signed), so we actually still need 2 DE's right now. Trent Murphy may be asked to move to DE again this year, but Galette is no guarantee to return either.

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[quote=Bangee7;1164200]Manusky already said he's sticking with the 3-4. He wants a big NT, but didn't say they had to draft one. I'm not sure there is a current stud NT out there, but with Tomsula on board, he may be able to coach some guy up.

Either way, we can always find room for a stud DE (Chris Baker needs re-signed), so we actually still need 2 DE's right now. Trent Murphy may be asked to move to DE again this year, but Galette is no guarantee to return either.[/quote]

Going to a 3-4 is a big mistake. They have no NT and no natural OLBs..... Kerrigan, Smith, and Murphy are not good OLBs. And to small as 3-4 DT/DEs. What are they going to do, play 5 LBs with two down lineman in passing situations ?

Hopefully this is a smokescreen by Manusky and they plan to play a 4-3, like they did a significant amount last year.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1164201]Going to a 3-4 is a big mistake. They have no NT and no natural OLBs..... Kerrigan, Smith, and Murphy are not good OLBs. And to small as 3-4 DT/DEs. What are they going to do, play 5 LBs with two down lineman in passing situations ?

Hopefully this is a smokescreen by Manusky and they plan to play a 4-3, like they did a significant amount last year.[/quote]

Yeah, it's both (3-4 & 4-3) -similar to last year....you can listen for yourself:


this is the recap...
[U][url]https://www.reddit.com/r/Redskins/comments/5ps8mm/greg_manusky_interview_with_doc_walker_and_brian/[/url][/U]


Here's the actual recorded interview...
[U][url=http://stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=65&c=425&f=5820243]ESPN 980 Audio Vault - Play Now[/url][/U]

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[quote=Irrefutable;1164190]assuming you are right about Charlton and he is the pick, where does he play ? They have Kerrigan, Smith, Murphy, and maybe Galette .[/quote]

I'm a strong believer in best player available. The coaches will have to figure that one out.

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YOUR TEAM: WASHINGTON REDSKINS
GAME OVER!


Your score is: 8653 (GRADE: C-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 17: Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 17: Raekwon McMillan, ILB/OLB, Ohio State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 17: Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, Alabama (A)
Round 4 Pick 7: Jarron Jones, DT, Notre Dame (B-)
Round 4 Pick 17: John Johnson, FS, Boston College (C+)
Round 5 Pick 10: Josh Reynolds, WR, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 5 Pick 17: Eddie Vanderdoes, DT, UCLA (B)
Round 6 Pick 17: Trent Taylor, WR, Louisiana Tech (A-)
Round 6 Pick 25: C.J. Beathard, QB, Iowa (C-)
Round 7 Pick 17: Ashton Lampkin, CB, Oklahoma State (B-)

[url=http://first-pick.com/NFL/Share.aspx?id=e5cb4d6b-979c-4d4e-9ede-5feb07b913ae]edromeo's Washington Redskins Draft Results 1/30/2017[/url]

Its fun, the accuracy is so-so but if you're a draft but u might enjoy it

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YOUR TEAM: WASHINGTON REDSKINS
GAME OVER!


Your score is: 8605 (GRADE: C-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 17: Malik McDowell, DT/DE, Michigan State (B+)
Round 2 Pick 17: Carl Lawson, DE/OLB, Auburn (A)
Round 3 Pick 17: JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, Southern California (A+)
Round 4 Pick 7: Davon Godchaux, DT, LSU (A+)
Round 4 Pick 17: Damontae Kazee, CB, San Diego State (B+)
Round 5 Pick 10: John Johnson, FS, Boston College (A-)
Round 5 Pick 17: Eddie Vanderdoes, DT, UCLA (B)
Round 6 Pick 17: Trent Taylor, WR, Louisiana Tech (A-)
Round 6 Pick 25: Antonio Pipkin, QB, Tiffin (F)
Round 7 Pick 17: Ben Boulware, ILB, Clemson (D+)

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[quote=30gut;1164256]YOUR TEAM: WASHINGTON REDSKINS
GAME OVER!


Your score is: 8605 (GRADE: C-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 17: Malik McDowell, DT/DE, Michigan State (B+)
Round 2 Pick 17: Carl Lawson, DE/OLB, Auburn (A)
Round 3 Pick 17: JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, Southern California (A+)
Round 4 Pick 7: Davon Godchaux, DT, LSU (A+)
Round 4 Pick 17: Damontae Kazee, CB, San Diego State (B+)
Round 5 Pick 10: John Johnson, FS, Boston College (A-)
Round 5 Pick 17: Eddie Vanderdoes, DT, UCLA (B)
Round 6 Pick 17: Trent Taylor, WR, Louisiana Tech (A-)
Round 6 Pick 25: Antonio Pipkin, QB, Tiffin (F)
Round 7 Pick 17: Ben Boulware, ILB, Clemson (D+)[/quote]


I like this one

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I couldn't get 30Gut's site to work, so I found FanSpeak & gave that a shot. Two points to make clear- (1) I am not a BPA convert; needs are important to me & (2) I'm a Penn State grad & fan


R1 17 EDGE TACO CHARLTON, MICHIGAN
R2 17 S MARCUS WILLIAMS, UTAH
R3 17 DL DAVON GODCHAUX, LSU
R4 7 C ETHAN POCIC, LSU
[B]R4 17 WR CHRIS GODWIN, PENN STATE[/B]
R5 10 LB MARQUEL LEE, WAKE FOREST
R6 17 LB HARVEY LANGI, BRIGHAM YOUNG
R6 25 RB TAQUAN MIZZELL, VIRGINIA
[B]R7 17 LB BRANDON BELL, PENN STATE[/B]

I doubt that this would rate very high, but it was fun.

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[quote=Bangee7;1164186]Here's what my untrained eyes are seeing...

Looking purely at how some of the top d-linemen played in big games this year, I was a little underwhelmed. I want DL more than anyone, but I don't want us to waste a #17 pick either.

Myles Garrett (T A&M) against Alabama/LSU - not impressed
Caleb Brantley (Fla) against Alabama - non-factor
Derek Barnett (Tenn)- against Alabama - non-factor
Chris Wormly (Mich) - against Fla State - pedestrian
Montravious Adams (Aub) - against Alabama & Clemson - some flashes, some plays off

The guys I really liked so far - guys with high motors & forced an impact
Jonathan Allen (Ala)
Soloman Thomas (Stan)
Taco Charlton (Mich)
Malik McDowell (Mich St)[/quote]

Thanks for the info...I've saw Derek Barnett stand out twice when playing this year.

I just hope we go defense with our first 3 picks...

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Solomon Thomas or Montravious Adams are my two top picks at that spot (unless one of the top two safeties fall to us).

Thomas was a freaking animal out there. Like straight tossing people around left and right.

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[url=http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Mike-Mayock-names-10-standouts-from-Senior-Bowl/61c2601e-938b-46c4-a9d1-0c7c8592f1fd]Mike Mayock names 10 standouts from Senior Bowl[/url]

Ive heard multiple scouts saying this guy is real deal: LB Haason Reddick, Temple