Re: Nnamdi Asomugha contract voided should Redskins go after him or do you think the price will be too high.
 

[quote=Mattyk;809589]I don't see him landing here at all. The bidding war for him is going to be crazy.[/quote]On the other hand, these are the Redskins. They don't just participate in bidding wars, they end them.

I don't see Philly as a major contender for Nnamdi. I see Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Washington, or a return to Oakland. He'd have to take less money to go back to Oakland because of their cap situation. Given the alternatives, that might be the best place to be. --EDIT-- Oh, and Tampa Bay. Aqib Talib is going to be difficult to replace otherwise.

He's going to sign the biggest contract ever for a player 30 years or older, no matter where he signs.

Re: Nnamdi Asomugha contract voided should Redskins go after him or do you think the price will be too high.
 

IMO signing Asomugha (a 30+ year old vet who'll command massive $$) would be a repetition of what has plagued this team for years. I have no doubt that Nnamdi can be a top shelf corner for another 3 years or so, but for the Redskins he's not worth the $40+ million in guarantees he'll likely get.

I like Nnamdi a lot as a person and as a player, but I don't think he's a fit here.

Re: Nnamdi Asomugha contract voided should Redskins go after him or do you think the price will be too high.
 

[quote=GTripp0012;809701]On the other hand, these are the Redskins. [B]They don't just participate in bidding wars, they end them[/B].

I don't see Philly as a major contender for Nnamdi. I see Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Washington, or a return to Oakland. He'd have to take less money to go back to Oakland because of their cap situation. Given the alternatives, that might be the best place to be. --EDIT-- Oh, and Tampa Bay. Aqib Talib is going to be difficult to replace otherwise.

He's going to sign the biggest contract ever for a player 30 years or older, no matter where he signs.[/quote]

They used to operate that way, we haven't seen that same pattern under Allen so far.

Re: Nnamdi Asomugha contract voided should Redskins go after him or do you think the price will be too high.
 

[quote=Mattyk;809710]They used to operate that way, we haven't seen that same pattern under Allen so far.[/quote]

Well, the extension they gave McNabb mid-season last year was kind of bizarre. Even though we didn't cough up a lot of guaranteed money and the years/dollars were misleading, it was definitely a head-scratcher considering Shanny and Co never really seemed sold on DM as a QB once the season really got rolling.

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[quote=GMScud;809715]Well, the extension they gave McNabb mid-season last year was kind of bizarre. Even though we didn't cough up a lot of guaranteed money and the years/dollars were misleading, it was definitely a head-scratcher considering Shanny and Co never really seemed sold on DM as a QB once the season really got rolling.[/quote]

Yeah but that deal was to simply hang on to his rights for this season so they can hopefully trade him for a pick.

Re: Nnamdi Asomugha contract voided should Redskins go after him or do you think the price will be too high.
 

[quote=GMScud;809709]IMO signing Asomugha (a 30+ year old vet who'll command massive $$) [B]would be a repetition of what has plagued this team for years.[/B] I have no doubt that Nnamdi can be a top shelf corner for another 3 years or so, but for the Redskins he's not worth the $40+ million in guarantees he'll likely get.

I like Nnamdi a lot as a person and as a player, but I don't think he's a fit here.[/quote]

Well all signs point to him not having any character issues that I know, he is probably in the tail-end of his prime, and is easily one of the best corners in the league right now. So, money aside, I wouldn't have any concerns in signing him. My concern would be our terrible record of bringing talented players and somehow the team doesn't make them work out.

Now, it is hard to resist the thought of having a secondary with Nnamdi, DHall, OJ, and Landry. I think it'd be a pretty sick secondary having a complete shutdown corner (Nnamdi), ballhawking CB and FS (DHall/OJ), and a hard tackling SS (Landry).

Re: Nnamdi Asomugha contract voided should Redskins go after him or do you think the price will be too high.
 

[quote=GTripp0012;809700]Uh, that's not even a particularly good secondary. Nnamdi and Landry are top flight NFL DBs; Hall and Atogwe are mostly unwanted as starters. Both have been unrestricted free agents in the past three years and had to sign deals for well below the going rate for an NFL starter.

Last year's secondary lacked anyone who could play the free safety position, and Atogwe brings at least that.

The best secondaries in football are probably Green Bay and Kansas City. Chicago is really good in the secondary. New Orleans is getting a lot better at that level, and Malcolm Jenkins and Jabari Greer and Tracy Porter and Pat Robinson would all be starters on the Redskins. Roman Harper isn't LaRon Landry, but that's not a big deal for them.

The AFC kind of struggles at pass defense as a group, but even the proposed secondary you have above has three pass defense weak links between Atogwe, Hall, and Landry.

Adding Nnamdi gives us a great player in our defense, but it doesn't make the unit better than the sum of it's parts. That's what the Raiders have found out over the years. You can have Asomugha and still struggle to defend mediocre passers. In terms of covering the other team's recievers, you're really only as good as your weakest link. Which for us, is Hall and our safeties.[/quote]

Now you're just being delusional. :D

Re: Nnamdi Asomugha contract voided should Redskins go after him or do you think the price will be too high.
 

Who's going to ask for more money, him or Rogers?

Re: Nnamdi Asomugha contract voided should Redskins go after him or do you think the price will be too high.
 

[quote=Mattyk;809721]Yeah but that deal was to simply hang on to his rights for this season so they can hopefully trade him for a pick.[/quote]

Fair enough. It just doesn't sit well with me that Shanahan's first big personnel move as our HC was possibly the worst of his career. Not exactly a confidence builder, especially when it involves the most important position on the field. I know the DM thing has been beaten to death so I'm not gonna rant, I just personally don't want to see us pay out 10's of millions for another vet over 30 years old when we have so many other pressing needs.

Also, given D'Angelo's contract and the contract that Landry is going to be looking for after this year, we'd be ill-advised to tie up that much money in the secondary with Nnamdi.

Re: Nnamdi Asomugha contract voided should Redskins go after him or do you think the price will be too high.
 

[quote=Alvin Walton;809745]Who's going to ask for more money, him or Rogers?[/quote]

Nnamdi won't need to ask for more money, he is going to get it and as it has been said there will be a bidding war for him.

I think Rogers is going to ask for too much money, but he won't get anywhere near what Nnamdi will get.

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The market will quickly set the price for Rogers. He's dreaming if he thinks he's going to cash in big.

Re: Nnamdi Asomugha contract voided should Redskins go after him or do you think the price will be too high.
 

[quote=Mattyk;809761]The market will quickly set the price for Rogers. He's dreaming if he thinks he's going to cash in big.[/quote]

I think he can cash in big. There are a bunch of teams in the bidding war for asomuhga, rogers is close to next in line. Asomuhga will cash in big, then the losers of that battle will battle over carlos, joseph, cromartie, and taylor (and I do believe the one year differance between rodger and taylor will edge things towards rodgers). I think that with the trend in the league being to have 3-5 WR's on the field, teams will value having multiple solid DB's, and there seems to be a lack of DB talent in the league. Detroit and Houston come to mind as the biggest possible suitors. I'd even argue that the majority of teams out there are in the market for a solid corner. Especially considering how many WR's are now being used, the more DBs a team has the better. Out of the teams that spend money on free agents I'd say phili, Dallas, Tenn, TB, St. L, San Fran, Oakland, Baltimore, Chicago, Denver, and Cleveland are possible spenders. And with the way the new cba looks to be structured, the salary floor looks like it will be significantly raised by each team, so teams that normally don't like to spend might end up having to do so.

I think Carlos will get a good deal for sure. I will be shocked if he doesn't get at least 6 mil a year. Nate Burleson got a 5 year 25 mil contract, the salary cap is going up, the salary floor is going up, and rodgers is significantly better than burleson IMO. Yes I know he has the dropsies, but he is a solid cover corner and a good tackler. We are mad at him for only having two picks, but that is not all that off from the rest of the league, and we are mad at him because he is good enough to be in good position to make plays on the ball. He is an asset any team would like to have.

Re: Nnamdi Asomugha contract voided should Redskins go after him or do you think the price will be too high.
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;776436]No doubt I would in a heartbeat, he's a team guy and a true shutdown corner, let Los walk and sign NA. We could play true man to man plus he's only 30, I see Dallas getting him though[/quote]

I too would take him in a heartbeat and let LOS go.

You haven't heard? Dallas is in CAP hell. lol. Sound familiar?
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/06/roy-williams-could-be-victim-of-salary-cap/]Roy Williams could be victim of salary cap | ProFootballTalk[/url]

I hope they can't solve their issue's with simple number crunching.

Re: Nnamdi Asomugha contract voided should Redskins go after him or do you think the price will be too high.
 

[quote=SBXVII;809775]I too would take him in a heartbeat and let LOS go.

You haven't heard? Dallas is in CAP hell. lol. Sound familiar?
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/06/roy-williams-could-be-victim-of-salary-cap/]Roy Williams could be victim of salary cap | ProFootballTalk[/url]

I hope they can't solve their issue's with simple number crunching.[/quote]

Anybody know what our cap situation will be given the possible new salary cap?

Re: Nnamdi Asomugha contract voided should Redskins go after him or do you think the price will be too high.
 

[quote=Mattyk;809761]The market will quickly set the price for Rogers. He's dreaming if he thinks he's going to cash in big.[/quote]

Sometimes teams don't pay what the player is worth, other times players ask for more then their worth. I personally see LOS in the latter catagory. I'd be suprised if he stays. Otherwise he's in for a rude awakening .... or both.