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[quote=44ever;527072]Very Nice 53! Guys like Mack is what makes the offense flow. Clear lanes for the QB to see and for RB's to explode through. We need to be looking at these type of guys. We also have to keep in mind that one of our WO's might develop in 2009 if this happens we could be looking at a post season.

But it wont happen without pass protection.[/quote]
man that's impressive, kid just doesn't give up at all.. could probably handle some of the big NT's in the 3-4

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Shane Lechler. he's not a sexy addition but given what boldin, haynesworth, dansbry would require money wise i would go with him to provide the biggest improvement for the money.

i remember watching the giants alot the second half of their Sb season and to me the biggest impact player was feagles downing punts inside the 5 constantly.

obviously punter is a need. has been for a long time. plack IMO won us the eagles game this year but he just isnt nearly as good as lech who can dead a ball and boom em.

go skins!!

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for me drafting a solid OL will do = Mr. Mack

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[quote=tryfuhl;527189]man that's impressive, kid just doesn't give up at all.. could probably handle some of the big NT's in the 3-4[/quote]

I agree tryfuhl. Man that would be nice to see!

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[quote=over the mountain;527201]Shane Lechler. he's not a sexy addition but given what boldin, haynesworth, dansbry would require money wise i would go with him to provide the biggest improvement for the money.

i remember watching the giants alot the second half of their Sb season and to me the biggest impact player was feagles downing punts inside the 5 constantly.

obviously punter is a need. has been for a long time. plack IMO won us the eagles game this year but he just isnt nearly as good as lech who can dead a ball and boom em.

go skins!![/quote]

I like it. It would be a much needed addition. Improving field position is always overlooked. Good Call.

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[quote=over the mountain;527201]Shane Lechler. he's not a sexy addition but given what boldin, haynesworth, dansbry would require money wise i would go with him to provide the biggest improvement for the money.

i remember watching the giants alot the second half of their Sb season and to me the biggest impact player was feagles downing punts inside the 5 constantly.

obviously punter is a need. has been for a long time. plack IMO won us the eagles game this year but he just isnt nearly as good as lech who can dead a ball and boom em.

go skins!![/quote]

Youre exacly right OTM. Theres no doubt Plack won us that game in Philly. Field position is half the battle. Thats another reason to get a great punter and return guy.

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[quote=GMScud;527169]True. He'd be a solid pick up as well. I suggested this in a previous thread, but I wouldn't mind going after both Graham and [URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/stacyandrews/profile?id=AND726755"]Stacy Andrews.[/URL] Andrews is 6-7, 342lbs, 27 years old, and has started 29 games in the past 2 seasons. He's Shaun Andrews brother (how massive is that family? My goodness). He's similar in age and size to Vernon Carey from Miami, although Carey hasn't missed a start in 3 years.

Either one of those guys would make me happy- that is if we don't draft a tackle. [B]I'd really like to add two solid tackles, but because of our contract backloading we can't cut Jansen.[/quote][/B]

I had to check and your right. To keep Jansen it's 4 mill to cut him we pay 6 mill. Next year it will be the complete opposite. However cutting Taylor and Springs alone will save us 14 mill. Taylor will cost nothing to cut or let go we just won't take on his 8.4 mill. and Springs 8.4 to keep or 2.4 to cut is worth cutting. He save us 6 mill. Then resign Hall and Rogers. Hope all the other CB we have step up to help out.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;527183]Both those guys are good FAs. Andrews will probably be kept from what I hear but Carey could slide our way. Seeing how RT is a gaping hole I can't see how they can draft an OT, throw him in there right away, and expect him to have success. If they do anything at RT it's going to be in FA. A FA will be able to start right away and not have to work his way up to an NFL caliber starter.
We'll have to wait until the combine to see who's the best OT. I think that Jason Smith has the most upside and Andre Smith gets beat too often. They all might be gone by the time we get on the clock. We could reach for Eben Britton but that's just too good of a pick for a 2nd round guy. They're just going up and down too much right now for me to say that's my guy.
If we don't trade down then I'd say Everrett Brown, Peria Jerry, or BJ Raji if they're still available.[/quote]

I'd be surprised if the Bengals don't work something out with Andrews, as you say. I think of Gross, Carey, Andrews, and Barnes that Barnes is the most likely to be available to us.

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[quote=Ruhskins;527177]SS,

Do you think AZ is going to use the tag on Dansby?[/quote]

Probably, but actually it might not even get that far. Apparently contract talks are going pretty well and they may even get a deal signed this week.

No guarantee that Asomugha is going to get franchised but it appears that way.

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There is alot of questions I would have in regards to our OL. Since Jansen has lost a step can he be moved to Guard and be effective? solidifying our G position. Can Heyer be taught how to run block better since he's good at pass blocking? Will Reinhart step up or will Buges work with him all off season on his technique so he will be used next year? I have no doubt that if we pick up a FA OL he will start but what happens if we pick up one in the draft? Would the coach's be willing to start a rookie if there are no injuries?

Who we have now: 14 players on OL.

Chris Samuels OT
Randy Thomas OG
Casey Rabach OL
John Jansen OT
Pete Kendall OL
Jason Fabini OL
Stephen Heyer OL
Chad Rinehart OL
Will Montgomery OL
D'Anthony Batiste OL
Devin Clark OL
Isaiah Ross OL
Rueben Riley OL
Justin Geisinger OG

Can any of these new guys step up and help out the team? I count 6 new guys including Rinehart. Perhaps they are simply camp fodder but if we brought them in hoping they would challenge the older guys then I would think maybe they have some skills Buges can work with.

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[B]Albert Haynesworth[/B]...O-line destroyer, will help secondary by collapsing the pocket in the middle , which would allow db's to be more aggressive...

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[quote=SmootSmack;527211]I'd be surprised if the Bengals don't work something out with Andrews, as you say. I think of Gross, Carey, Andrews, and Barnes that Barnes is the most likely to be available to us.[/quote]

I hear Barnes has issues?

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[quote=tryfuhl;527189]man that's impressive, kid just doesn't give up at all.. could probably handle some of the big NT's in the 3-4[/quote]

It's not too late to get on the Mack train! I keep watching that video and picture the opposite team as Dallas.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;527220]I hear Barnes has issues?[/quote]

He's had some brushes with the law. Lost his DL because of a DUI and then wrecked his car and left while driving on a suspended license. There's a video on youtube of his DUI arrest.

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I totally forgot that Stacy Andrews tore his ACL in December. Glad to hear his rehab is going well, but I'm not for getting a guy coming off a knee reconstruction. I'm sure he'll be fine, but he just dropped a few notches on my list of OTs.

[B][URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/02/15/report-bengals-andrews-ahead-of-schedule/"]REPORT: BENGALS’ ANDREWS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE[/URL][/B]

Posted by Aaron Wilson on February 15, 2009, 9:24 a.m.

Cincinnati Bengals offensive tackle [URL="http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090215/SPT02/902150439/1066"]Stacy Andrews is ahead of schedule[/URL] in his rehabilitation after having his right knee surgically repaired, according to the [I]Cincinnati Enquirer[/I].
Andrews underwent surgery January 7 and could be playing football by June minicamps after initial projections that he wouldn’t be healed up until training camp.
“The rehab is going great and I’m way ahead of schedule,” Andrews told the [I]Enquirer.[/I] “My goal is to be practicing during minicamp. It was frustrating a little bit due to the fact that it was five quarters away from the end of the season.
“As soon as it happened, though, it flashed through my mind that everything happens for a reason. I kept a positive head about it and haven’t been down since.”
Andrews tore his anterior cruciate ligament against the Cleveland Browns in late December.
Of course, there’s also the unresolved matter of Andrews’ contract status. The Bengals have been talking with Andrews’ agent about a long-term deal. Andrews is also a candidate for the franchise tag again after being given that designation last year.
“I see myself no longer as a question mark but as an exclamation point,” Andrews said. “I’ve wiped out those questions and doubts about me over the past couple seasons. I would love to be back here. That’s my priority right now. Hopefully we can get everything dialed in and get something done.”