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Hey guys, I've actually been a Democrat this whole time. Never was a Republican and did not re-register as a libertarian.

I just didn't drink the anti-trump koolaid.

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The Supreme Court on Monday ruled against the NCAA in a landmark antitrust case that specifically challenged the association’s ability to have national limits on benefits for athletes that are related to education, but more broadly had raised doubts about its ability to limit benefits at all.

The ruling will end the association’s nationwide limits on education-related benefits athletes can receive for playing college sports.

Athletes playing Division I men’s or women’s basketball or Bowl Subdivision football will be able to receive benefits from their schools that include cash or cash-equivalent awards based on academics or graduation.

Among the other benefits that schools also can offer are scholarships to complete undergraduate or graduate degrees at any school and paid internships after athletes have completed their collegiate sports eligibility.

[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2021/06/21/shawne-alston-vs-ncaa-case-supreme-court-ruling/5237656001/[/url]

Now schools can offer cash benefits to "student" athletes including money for laptops, paid internships etc. My first impression is that the big schools can do a lot more paying of booster money to lure "student" athletes.

I think this just makes the disparity even more pronounced. No way a Maryland alumni dark money can compete with the Michigans and Ohio States in terms of program money.

I guess the Alabama "Sports Cars for Football Starters" program is now legal. After all .. the kids gotta get to school somehow.

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[quote=SunnySide;1285204]The Supreme Court on Monday ruled against the NCAA in a landmark antitrust case that specifically challenged the association’s ability to have national limits on benefits for athletes that are related to education, but more broadly had raised doubts about its ability to limit benefits at all.

The ruling will end the association’s nationwide limits on education-related benefits athletes can receive for playing college sports.

Athletes playing Division I men’s or women’s basketball or Bowl Subdivision football will be able to receive benefits from their schools that include cash or cash-equivalent awards based on academics or graduation.

Among the other benefits that schools also can offer are scholarships to complete undergraduate or graduate degrees at any school and paid internships after athletes have completed their collegiate sports eligibility.

[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2021/06/21/shawne-alston-vs-ncaa-case-supreme-court-ruling/5237656001/[/url]

Now schools can offer cash benefits to "student" athletes including money for laptops, paid internships etc. My first impression is that the big schools can do a lot more paying of booster money to lure "student" athletes.

I think this just makes the disparity even more pronounced. No way a Maryland alumni dark money can compete with the Michigans and Ohio States in terms of program money.

I guess the Alabama "Sports Cars for Football Starters" program is now legal. After all .. the kids gotta get to school somehow.

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Yeah not a fan. To me a free education worth(depending on the school) is 80 to 150 thousand dollars ,how is that not worth while?

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I 100% side with the weird unbalance of these schools and TV networks making billions of dollars in revenue and the guys who go to Alabama to play football or UNC for basketball are employed athletes and not students in way shape or form.

But the idea of paying athletes has some many red flags.

- wont this just allow and encourage even more under table payments?
- wont this just make Alabama recruiting even more dominant?
- will non revenue sports be cut out now bc even more money is going to 5 star football and basketball players?
- how does a school like Maryland compete with booster/alumni/program money of OSU or UM? Let only the even smaller schools like Nebraska etc


Will be interesting to see.

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SC deciding the Mississippi ban on abortions after 15 weeks.

Don’t worry about McConnell stealing a seat they said. I honor precedent kavanaugh said.

If the SC breaks roe v wade … it is a political branch and if the SC is now a political branch of the legislature then its broken and I say go ahead and add 69 new justices and make it the mockery it may be becoming.

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[quote=SunnySide;1301731]SC deciding the Mississippi ban on abortions after 15 weeks.

Don’t worry about McConnell stealing a seat they said. I honor precedent kavanaugh said.

If the SC breaks roe v wade … it is a political branch and if the SC is now a political branch of the legislature then its broken and I say go ahead and add 69 new justices and make it the mockery it may be becoming.[/quote]

+1

There is nothing in any branch of government that isn't immune to partisan politics anymore.

Thanks Drumpf.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1301757]+1



There is nothing in any branch of government that isn't immune to partisan politics anymore.



Thanks Drumpf.[/QUOTE]The liberals made the Supreme Court partisan long ago with Roe as a litmus test, the conservatives followed suit quickly. This is simply the result of 2 generations of legal abortion and the bitter moral divide that ensued.





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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1301764]The liberals made the Supreme Court partisan long ago with Roe as a litmus test, the conservatives followed suit quickly. This is simply the result of 2 generations of legal abortion and the bitter moral divide that ensued.





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Ah so you agree, the SC is partisan as fuck? Seems like the only thing we disagree on is how long it's been partisan.

Cool - look forward to the day when we tilt the scales back our way since things like precedent are out the window.

[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/r6p0rp/she_needs_to_be_heard_again_since_months_later/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3[/url]

This girl sums up how I feel about the bible pretty well.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1301776]Ah so you agree, the SC is partisan as fuck? Seems like the only thing we disagree on is how long it's been partisan.



Cool - look forward to the day when we tilt the scales back our way since things like precedent are out the window.



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This girl sums up how I feel about the bible pretty well.[/QUOTE]

Shouldn't we also remember that roe v wade broke at least 100 years of established law?

The question for me always comes down to who should be protected more by the power of the government, an adult woman who makes a choice with potential consequences (not talking rape or other non consensual acts) or a potential human life that has no ability of self defense.

But the issue in the media is always liberal good conservative bad.

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[quote=SunnySide;1301731]SC deciding the Mississippi ban on abortions after 15 weeks.

Don’t worry about McConnell stealing a seat they said. I honor precedent kavanaugh said.

If the SC breaks roe v wade … it is a political branch and if the SC is now a political branch of the legislature then its broken and I say go ahead and add 69 new justices and make it the mockery it may be becoming.[/quote]

To be clear all the Mississippi case would do is the reset the states power of being able to regulate abortions from 24 to 15 weeks. Over 95% of abortions occur prior to 15 weeks. I'm more interested in seeing if the Court clarifies/rectifies the health of the mother loophole that Roe created and in many places was subsequently abused.

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As related to the above post:

This is a baby at 12 weeks:

[url]https://www.babycenter.com/pregnancy/week-by-week/12-weeks-pregnant[/url]

That's 3 weeks less than 15 weeks, clearly not some random life form. If babycenter.com is a far right website, they tricked me, with such an innocent name.

Here's WebMD, they have a breakdown of every trimester and week. Here is week 15:

Your baby, from head to heel, is as long as a large russet potato -- 6.25 inches. They're covered by very fine hair, called lanugo, which is usually shed by birth. Eyebrows and hair on the top of the head are beginning to grow, bones are getting harder, and the baby may even be sucking their thumb. Their organs are fully formed now and will continue to grow. You may be able to tell the baby's sex this week with high-resolution ultrasound!

Here's the link to the whole pregnancy:

[url]https://www.webmd.com/baby/default.htm[/url]

So tired of being lectured about "science". It's not science, it's "Selective Science". If you based all your decisions on factual science, you should be appalled by abortions at 15 weeks, and at 24 weeks, ashamed of yourself.

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Joe Biden in 1974 interview with Washingtonian:

"I don't like the Supreme Court decision on abortion. I think it went too far. I don't think that a woman has the sole right to say what should happen to her body," Biden said during the interview.

1977 letter to Delaware citizens after voting against a compromise that allowed Medicaid-funded abortions:

"As you probably already know, the*Senate*and the House of Representatives finally agreed on language dealing with the problem of Medicaid-covered abortions December 15," Biden wrote. "The 1977 fiscal year appropriations bill prohibits the use of federal funds to pay for abortions '...unless the life of the mother is in danger.' This is the position which I have consisted supported. During considerations of the 1978 fiscal year appropriation bill for the Department of Health, Education and Welfare, the House again passed the same language. The Senate, however, passed a broader definition of the circumstances under which Medicaid funds could be used to pay for an abortion. I did not support this version."

If democrats went 100% against abortion, under all circumstances, tomorrow, Biden would go back to pretending like he's a religious catholic that was always against it. And he was in his 30's when both above quotes were made. The dude is a lifetime rat that lives off of our tax dollars. Biden worships Biden.

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Only 24% of Americans want Roe /Wade changed . US population rate way down . This is right wing BS .

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[quote=Giantone;1301784]Only 24% of Americans want Roe /Wade changed . US population rate way down . This is right wing BS .[/quote]

You are the right wing aren't you? Or did you officially register as a democrat finally?

Also, the supreme court shouldn't make decisions based on polls.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1301785]You are the right wing aren't you? Or did you officially register as a democrat finally?

Also, the surpreme court shouldn't make decisions based on polls.[/quote]

Since Roe /Wade was decided only 5 SCJ have voted to overturn it, two are sitting on the bench now , 15 others said you keep it the law of the land.


Nope , just becuase you're a republican doesn't make you "right wing" but trumpers like yourself and chico don't seem to understand that, it's why you guys call everyone who you don't like a "liberal".. The Supreme Court shouldn't make "political decisions" yet if they over turn R/W then the Court is broken and it will be hell.

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[quote=Giantone;1301786]Since Roe /Wade was decided only 5 SCJ have voted to overturn it, two are sitting on the bench now , 15 others said you keep it the law of the land.

Nope , just becuase you're a republican doesn't make you "right wing" [B]but trumpers like yourself[/B] and chico don't seem to understand that, it's why you guys call everyone who you don't like a "liberal".. The Supreme Court shouldn't make "political decisions" yet if they over turn R/W then the Court is broken and it will be hell.[/quote]

Lol. I'm back to being a Trumper again.

What would you consider yourself republican about? Even the things we agree on, flat tax and foreign affairs, aren't republican ideas. Neither of the 2 parties, at least people that can try to run on it, support a flat tax. And both parties are involved in wars all the time.

Maybe you're not a democrat, even though you stick up for all of them like they're all Daniel Jones, but you're definitely not republican either.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1301777]Shouldn't we also remember that roe v wade broke at least 100 years of established law?

The question for me always comes down to who should be protected more by the power of the government, an adult woman who makes a choice with potential consequences (not talking rape or other non consensual acts) or a potential human life that has no ability of self defense.

But the issue in the media is always liberal good conservative bad.

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What do you say to those on your team that aren't willing to make exclusions for rape or incest?

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1301782]As related to the above post:

This is a baby at 12 weeks:

[url]https://www.babycenter.com/pregnancy/week-by-week/12-weeks-pregnant[/url]

That's 3 weeks less than 15 weeks, clearly not some random life form. If babycenter.com is a far right website, they tricked me, with such an innocent name.

Here's WebMD, they have a breakdown of every trimester and week. Here is week 15:

Your baby, from head to heel, is as long as a large russet potato -- 6.25 inches. They're covered by very fine hair, called lanugo, which is usually shed by birth. Eyebrows and hair on the top of the head are beginning to grow, bones are getting harder, and the baby may even be sucking their thumb. Their organs are fully formed now and will continue to grow. You may be able to tell the baby's sex this week with high-resolution ultrasound!

Here's the link to the whole pregnancy:

[url]https://www.webmd.com/baby/default.htm[/url]

So tired of being lectured about "science". It's not science, it's "Selective Science". If you based all your decisions on factual science, you should be appalled by abortions at 15 weeks, and at 24 weeks, ashamed of yourself.[/quote]

Is a baby sentient at 15 weeks?

You know there's a reason they call dead not when your heart stops - but when brain activity ceases functioning.

Same logic applies to fetuses. If there's no brain activity - I'm not feeling guilty about anything.

And if there is brain activity - I'd bet it was at such a stage the mother was planning on going through with the pregnancy and her doctor told her it wasn't viable.

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[quote=mooby;1301791]Is a baby sentient at 15 weeks?

You know there's a reason they call dead not when your heart stops - but when brain activity ceases functioning.

Same logic applies to fetuses. If there's no brain activity - I'm not feeling guilty about anything.

And if there is brain activity - I'd bet it was at such a stage the mother was planning on going through with the pregnancy and her doctor told her it wasn't viable.[/quote]

From my previous post:

Your baby, from head to heel, is as long as a large russet potato -- 6.25 inches. They're covered by very fine hair, called lanugo, which is usually shed by birth. Eyebrows and hair on the top of the head are beginning to grow, bones are getting harder, and the baby may even be sucking their thumb. [B]Their organs are fully formed now and will continue to grow[/B]. You may be able to tell the baby's sex this week with high-resolution ultrasound!

[url]https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/anatomy-of-the-brain[/url]

Below is from the above link.

The brain is a complex organ that controls thought, memory, emotion, touch, motor skills, vision, breathing, temperature, hunger and every process that regulates our body. Together, the brain and spinal cord that extends from it make up the central nervous system, or CNS.

So yes, a functioning brain is there. Also, we've had similar discussions before, and I could be wrong, but I don't recall you ever mentioning brain function as part of your argument.

I'm tired of being told abortion is a necessity in our country. And especially at basically 4 months. Nothing is necessary about abortion in 99% of cases, let alone at 4 months.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1301790]What do you say to those on your team that aren't willing to make exclusions for rape or incest?[/QUOTE]Rather than deflect from my point, why do you think the governments power should not be used to protect the powerless, which includes the unborn and rape victims both)?

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1301792]From my previous post:

Your baby, from head to heel, is as long as a large russet potato -- 6.25 inches. They're covered by very fine hair, called lanugo, which is usually shed by birth. Eyebrows and hair on the top of the head are beginning to grow, bones are getting harder, and the baby may even be sucking their thumb. [B]Their organs are fully formed now and will continue to grow[/B]. You may be able to tell the baby's sex this week with high-resolution ultrasound!

[url]https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/anatomy-of-the-brain[/url]

Below is from the above link.

The brain is a complex organ that controls thought, memory, emotion, touch, motor skills, vision, breathing, temperature, hunger and every process that regulates our body. Together, the brain and spinal cord that extends from it make up the central nervous system, or CNS.

So yes, a functioning brain is there. Also, we've had similar discussions before, and I could be wrong, but I don't recall you ever mentioning brain function as part of your argument.

I'm tired of being told abortion is a necessity in our country. And especially at basically 4 months. [B]Nothing is necessary about abortion in 99% of cases, let alone at 4 months.[/B][/quote]

We're gonna have to agree to disagree on this.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1301794]Rather than deflect from my point, why do you think the governments power should not be used to protect the powerless, which includes the unborn and rape victims both)?

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Wish you guys felt the same about needy kids as you do about unborn fetuses.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1301797]Wish you guys felt the same about needy kids as you do about unborn fetuses.[/QUOTE]Still deflecting, and I do feel the same about needy kids, they are included in powerless, but adults who abuse the system are a different story.

But still, why should the government's focus not be on protecting an unborn child, not the couple who make a choice to discard it.

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Really don't want to hear about the sanctity of life bullshit when our kids keep getting shot up in schools.

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[quote=MTK;1301816]Really don't want to hear about the sanctity of life bullshit when our kids keep getting shot up in schools.[/quote]

I'm sure this comment will be loved here.

But that's like saying I really don't want to hear about school shooting bullshit when we are aborting hundreds of thousands of kids every year.

More kids die in 1 month in any given year from abortions, than all kids killed in school shootings combined, ever, and it's not even close.

"In 2018, there were approximately 620,000 legal abortions reported in the United States."

[url]https://www.statista.com/topics/3218/abortion-in-the-us/#topicHeader__wrapper[/url]

Over 12 months, that's an average of 51,667 per month.

One has nothing to do with the other. Just more deflection. And both are wrong. I'm against abortion and against school shootings. We can all care about more than 1 thing at once. Sanctity of life is just that. All lives regardless of age.

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Just saying we sure never seem to see much action when it comes to gun control, despite the right's love of so called precious life. "Kids" aren't dying from abortions can we cut the hysterics please? And if the right loves babies so much why are they so resistant to funding social service programs to take care of them?

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[quote=MTK;1301818]Just saying we sure never seem to see much action when it comes to gun control, despite the right's love of so called precious life. [B]"Kids" aren't dying from abortions can we cut the hysterics please?[/B] And if the right loves babies so much why are they so resistant to funding social service programs to take care of them?[/quote]

They are alive and human. Kids, babies, children. I'm not going to call them something less than what they are. That's what is needed to help justify abortion. Gotta dehumanize them to help justify being OK with it. 2 humans can't create anything besides another human. So kids is a perfectly fine way to describe them. Especially at 15 weeks. Not even debatable at 24 weeks.

I'm on the right, and I'm totally OK with using all the money possible that is needed to help pregnant women, children, adoptive families, etc. I can't speak for everyone, but I don't think this is an uncommon thought.

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Here we go again, bunch of guys talking about what is the right choice for women and their bodies.

I agree Matty the rights love of life stops at a fetus, than it is all about the mighty dollar…NRA, etc, etc, bullshit. Extremely hypocritical.

SD, you speak for a very small amount of the right btw. Otherwise the proof would be in the pudding. It aint. Kids getting gunned down, starving, etc etc. The good vibes stop with them because of Money. There is no money in abortion. There is money in guns.

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[quote=punch it in;1301821]Here we go again, bunch of guys talking about what is the right choice for women and their bodies.

I agree Matty the rights love of life stops at a fetus, than it is all about the mighty dollar…NRA, etc, etc, bullshit. Extremely hypocritical.

SD, you speak for a very small amount of the right btw. Otherwise the proof would be in the pudding. It aint. Kids getting gunned down, starving, etc etc. The good vibes stop with them because of Money. There is no money in abortion. There is money in guns.[/quote]

Glad you disagree with federal vaccine mandates. My body my choice!

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1301822]Glad you disagree with federal vaccine mandates. My body my choice![/QUOTE]


Oh God. Such a parrot. Last time i checked abortion doesn’t affect others. Not being vaccinated does. Its my body my choice vs my body your health.
But you know that.

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[quote=punch it in;1301823]Oh God. Such a parrot. Last time i checked abortion doesn’t affect others. Not being vaccinated does. Its my body my choice vs my body your health.
But you know that.[/quote]

Doesn’t affect the life of the child? Interesting take

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[quote=punch it in;1301821][B]Here we go again, bunch of guys talking about what is the right choice for women and their bodies. [/B]

I agree Matty the rights love of life stops at a fetus, than it is all about the mighty dollar…NRA, etc, etc, bullshit. Extremely hypocritical.

SD, you speak for a very small amount of the right btw. Otherwise the proof would be in the pudding. It aint. Kids getting gunned down, starving, etc etc. The good vibes stop with them because of Money. There is no money in abortion. There is money in guns.[/quote]

I already regret jumping in.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1301788]Lol. I'm back to being a Trumper again.

What would you consider yourself republican about? Even the things we agree on, flat tax and foreign affairs, aren't republican ideas. Neither of the 2 parties, at least people that can try to run on it, support a flat tax. And both parties are involved in wars all the time.

Maybe you're not a democrat, even though you stick up for all of them like they're all Daniel Jones, but you're definitely not republican either.[/quote]

I want smaller Government , I want less oversight in the workplace . That all so demands that the right people do the right thing. Very few Republicans seem to want to do the right thing, sadly .trump is not the right thing nor is anything he says or does.

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[quote=Chico23231;1301822]Glad you disagree with federal vaccine mandates. My body my choice![/quote]

chico, I mean this seriously . STFU.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1301824]Doesn’t affect the life of the child? Interesting take[/QUOTE]


Now ur back on topic at least. It is a fetus not a child. There is a scientific difference. And if aborting a fetus spread a virus around the world than yeah id be anti abortion. But it doesn’t so leave the fox news comparison out of the equation.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1301825]I already regret jumping in.[/QUOTE]


Me too. Lol.

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[quote=MTK;1301825]I already regret jumping in.[/quote]

The 1st rule about discussion abortion, is always regret discussing it. There isn't a 2nd rule.

I found Chico waiting to tag in, so I'm out.

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[I]Glad I changed some minds this morning[/I]

3 wins in a row baby!!

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[quote=Chico23231;1301824]Doesn’t affect the life of the child? Interesting take[/quote]

Why is that your decision, why do you get a say on what a Women does with her body? Even with abortion being "legal" right now the US birth rate is at the lowest it's been in decades.

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[quote=punch it in;1301828]Now ur back on topic at least. It is a fetus not a child. There is a scientific difference. And if aborting a fetus spread a virus around the world than yeah id be anti abortion. But it doesn’t so leave the fox news comparison out of the equation.[/quote]

Oh the mental gymnastics you guys constantly spin yourself into. Right all those premature kids born early and grow up to live healthy, normal lives. But yeah just ignore all that.

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[quote=MTK;1301825]I already regret jumping in.[/quote]

Yeah, should stayed out. But at least I got my favorite comment on the board: “Chico…STFU”