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I didn't really think either party in that video was really a good example. The security guard did nothing to defuse the situation, and obviously the mobbish behavior was just pathetic as well.

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That is disturbing. I cant believe people act like that in front of their childeren. WTF are you teaching them. Bad on both sides.

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These women are why black people get stereotyped and pigeon holed so badly.

I hope everyone knows black women typically don't act like this trash. I apologize on behalf of their idiocy.

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[quote=Chico23231;992470]That is disturbing. I cant believe people act like that in front of their childeren. WTF are you teaching them. Bad on both sides.[/quote]

The kids are already ruined, calling him gay and provoking him as well. Those kids can't be older than what? 4 or 5?

It's gonna take some sort of positive figure in their life to get them on track and its obviously not going to be the mother or the father.

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[quote=mlmdub130;992462]^awesome. that dude has balls the size of grapefruits.[/quote]

More like bowling balls....lol Check out this one. I was worried big time for him in this showdown. He had to draw his gun out on these guys.

[B](NSFW Language)[/B]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yRH1XPBU4-k#]Atlanta Security Guard Who Tasered Ghetto Mom Gets Threats and Defends Himself - YouTube[/url]!


[quote=CRedskinsRule;992466]I didn't really think either party in that video was really a good example. The security guard did nothing to defuse the situation, and obviously the mobbish behavior was just pathetic as well.[/quote]

He admits, in this interview, that he probably should have de-escalated the incident once he went back into the mall.

[url=http://www.rightthisminute.com/video/update-atlanta-security-guard]UPDATE: Atlanta Security Guard Speaks Out After Tasing Unruly Mother During Mall Altercation | RTM - Right This Minute[/url]

However, I think people need to realize the type of people he's dealing with. These aren't the type of people you can reason with. These aren't the type of people you can be rational or logical with. He has to speak to them in a manner they understand. They seem to understand two things in particular. Flexing and violence. This is how they communicate and what they'll respond to. If he acts weak around these guys, they'll eat him up. If he makes it known that their shit isn't flying anymore on his watch, they'll move on to another location. Listening to him off-camera gives you a clearer picture of who this guy is.

Scan some of these vids to see the stuff he deals with. This dude is working in a jungle. Sad he can't get help from the city of ATL.

[url=http://www.reddit.com/r/KickassMallCop/]They Better Back It Up[/url]



[quote=DynamiteRave;992476]These women are why black people get stereotyped and pigeon holed so badly.

I hope everyone knows black women typically don't act like this trash. I apologize on behalf of their idiocy.[/quote]

No need to apologize DR. I think anybody with a half a brain can see that this isn't a typical black person. These are people that are products of dirt poor communities, with very little education, that is no doubt engulfed in violence and crime. It just so happens that downtown ATL is being engulfed with such people.

You'll get a crack out of this guy's commentary about the situation. Had me rolling....lol

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqVfdkYdmqE&feature=endscreen&NR=1]HOOD MOTHER GETS TASED IN FRONT OF KIDS FOR ACTING UP! THE "RATCHET REPORT1" - YouTube[/ame]

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[quote=DynamiteRave;992476]These women are why black people get stereotyped and pigeon holed so badly.

I hope everyone knows black women typically don't act like this trash. I apologize on behalf of their idiocy.[/quote]
Trash is trash.......color notwithstanding.

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;992545]More like bowling balls....lol Check out this one. I was worried big time for him in this showdown. He had to draw his gun out on these guys.

[B](NSFW Language)[/B]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yRH1XPBU4-k#]Atlanta Security Guard Who Tasered Ghetto Mom Gets Threats and Defends Himself - YouTube[/url]!




He admits, in this interview, that he probably should have de-escalated the incident once he went back into the mall.

[url=http://www.rightthisminute.com/video/update-atlanta-security-guard]UPDATE: Atlanta Security Guard Speaks Out After Tasing Unruly Mother During Mall Altercation | RTM - Right This Minute[/url]

[B]However, I think people need to realize the type of people he's dealing with. These aren't the type of people you can reason with. These aren't the type of people you can be rational or logical with. He has to speak to them in a manner they understand. They seem to understand two things in particular. Flexing and violence. [/B]This is how they communicate and what they'll respond to. If he acts weak around these guys, they'll eat him up. If he makes it known that their shit isn't flying anymore on his watch, they'll move on to another location. Listening to him off-camera gives you a clearer picture of who this guy is.

Scan some of these vids to see the stuff he deals with. This dude is working in a jungle. Sad he can't get help from the city of ATL.

[url=http://www.reddit.com/r/KickassMallCop/]They Better Back It Up[/url]





No need to apologize DR. I think anybody with a half a brain can see that this isn't a typical black person. These are people that are products of dirt poor communities, with very little education, that is no doubt engulfed in violence and crime. It just so happens that downtown ATL is being engulfed with such people.

You'll get a crack out of this guy's commentary about the situation. Had me rolling....lol

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqVfdkYdmqE&feature=endscreen&NR=1]HOOD MOTHER GETS TASED IN FRONT OF KIDS FOR ACTING UP! THE "RATCHET REPORT1" - YouTube[/ame][/QUOTE]

the bolded part is just wrong. mobs respond to flexing and violence, individuals respond to attention and respect. you take an unarmed women with two kids and just keep saying the same instruction repeatedly and you lose what chance of respect you might have. I guarantee that there was a scenario that didn't involve him getting into it with her, unless she was actively trying to steal something, which didn't seem to be the case. you said look at what he has to deal with, but some people bring that on themselves. I knew many an MP that generally escalated every ruckus. why, because they felt their word was god and when I tell you something you better do it.

also, I didn't see where they pulled a weapon of any sort on him, so him pulling his gun was more a sign of weakness and fear. heck at one point a lady in a yellow shirt talks the black shirt guy down, he leaves and the guard start to tell the lady to get out. Just crazy bad technique. once they were out he could have backed off, gotten another guard to come in, or get the police to drive by. worse case you come back and if they come back in you end up at the same point. further, he never gave expected consequences, ie I am asking you to leave(he did say that), if you choose not to leave than I am authorized to taser,you, or other methods of force to get you to leave. you can also bluff the atlanta pd is going to do drive by but if the rowdies know that's unlikely it would probably backfire.

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^ it would be nice to think the world worked that way but unfortunately sometime is doesn't. i'm with nc on this one, there is abosolutly no reasoning with either of those women, espescially not in public. he might not have handled the situation perfectly, but for the situation he was in, i would say he handled himself quite well. while the women he tasered was not actually armed with a weapon, when she came at he she was throwing haymakers left and right, and that ain't your little sister thrown blows, that chick has thrown her hands around a few times.

all in all it is a horrible depiction of what goes on in certain areas in inner cities. some people don't want to think these things are actually taking place and do nothing, but turn a blind eye. i commend this guy for taking it on, might not be the perfect answer, but at least he is trying to clean up his community. and for what it's worth he appears to be trying to do it with words and not violence, at least in my opinion.

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again, I dealt with drunk US Army enlisted in Germany. I knew MP's like this guy who would make situations worse, then get praise when they threw a couple lunkheads down, and I knew MP's that could walk in a confident calm manner and settle without any escalation. It's fine to say the guy handled it, but multiple times in both videos he forced the escalation. Watch the video where he drew the gun, a lady came and talked the one guy down and out of the entrance way, and as she was leaving, rather than saying thanks, or just letting it go he started badgering her. Rule number 1, 2, and 3 in deescalation, if a woman talks her man down, do not go after the woman, the man will come back harder and faster.

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Girl.....worst
Judge best.....

[url=http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/Woman-Gives-Judge-Middle-Finger-Gets-30-Day-Sentence-for-Contempt-189691991.html]Woman Gives Judge Middle Finger, Gets 30-Day Sentence for Contempt | NBC 6 South Florida[/url]

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Braah

[url=http://metro.co.uk/2013/02/05/smash-smash-smash-heroic-homeless-hitchhiker-with-hatchet-goes-viral-3381687/]'Smash, smash, smash!' – Heroic homeless hitchhiker with hatchet goes viral | Metro News[/url]

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[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/15/sports/oscar-pistorius-shooting-south-africa.html?smid=fb-nytimes&_r=0[/url]


Wow. Didn't expect this kind of news concerning him. Maybe the first guy who could make the best AND worst for our future. Sad to say the least. (providing this was indeed a murder)

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This is old but i just read about it for the first time... W T F


[URL="http://http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/dec/04/germany.lukeharding"]http://http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/dec/04/germany.lukeharding[/URL]

[quote]
[B]Victim of cannibal agreed to be eaten[/B]

To the family next door, Armin Meiwes seemed the perfect neighbour. He mowed their lawn, repaired their car and even invited them round for dinner.
Other residents in the small German town of Rotenburg also believed there was nothing odd about the 42-year-old computer expert, whose light burned late into the night inside his creaking mansion. Yesterday, however, Meiwes appeared in court charged with killing - and then frying and eating - another man.

In one of the most extraordinary trials in German criminal history, the self-confessed cannibal admitted that he had met a 43-year-old Berlin engineer, Bernd Brandes, after advertising on the internet, and had chopped him up and eaten him.

It was, he said, something he had wanted to do for a long time. "I always had the fantasy and in the end I fulfilled it," Meiwes told the court on the first day of his trial for murder in the nearby city of Kassel.

Yesterday German prosecutors described how Meiwes had fantasised about killing and devouring someone, including his classmates, from the age of eight.

The desire grew stronger after the death of his mother in 1999, prosecutor Marcus Köhler said.

In March 2001 Meiwes advertised on the internet for a "young well-built man, who wanted to be eaten". Brandes replied.

On the evening of March 9, the two men went up to the bedroom in Meiwes' rambling timbered farmhouse. Mr Brandes swallowed 20 sleeping tablets and half a bottle of schnapps before Meiwes cut off Brandes'... [/quote]

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[quote=Alvin Walton;993061]Girl.....worst
Judge best.....

[URL="http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/Woman-Gives-Judge-Middle-Finger-Gets-30-Day-Sentence-for-Contempt-189691991.html"]Woman Gives Judge Middle Finger, Gets 30-Day Sentence for Contempt | NBC 6 South Florida[/URL][/quote]

The judge is a bigger loser than she is. It's the sad and pathetic irony of the criminal justice system, both sides are the low-lifes of our society. If I had to choose between dealing with a crook or a cop I'd choose the crook half a dozen times and the cop six lol.

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[quote=The Goat;994864]The judge is a bigger loser than she is. It's the sad and pathetic irony of the criminal justice system, both sides are the low-lifes of our society. If I had to choose between dealing with a crook or a cop I'd choose the crook half a dozen times and the cop six lol.[/quote]

Your a moron on so many levels.

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[quote=mredskins;994868]Your a moron on so many levels.[/quote]

Comedy gold......

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[quote=The Goat;994864]The judge is a bigger loser than she is. It's the sad and pathetic irony of the criminal justice system, both sides are the low-lifes of our society. If I had to choose between dealing with a crook or a cop I'd choose the crook half a dozen times and the cop six lol.[/quote]

Its been a while since you've said something completely nuts. i've missed you, Goat.

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My guess is you guys haven't dealt with the criminal justice system much. I've volunteered a great deal through church and non-profit orgs, working with the homeless, chemically dependent, mentally ill, criminal pasts etc. You'll find most of the cops, DAs and judges have no better character than the people they arrest, prosecute, sentence. That's all.

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To be fair, a cop probably saved my bacon once when a mentally ill homeless man I was counseling had a psychotic episode, and was carrying a blade the size of your arm in his trousers.

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[URL="http://naturalsociety.com/leading-geneticist-human-intelligence-slowly-declining/#ixzz2LTGJtfmw"]All of us:[/URL]

[I]Despite our advancements over the last tens or even hundreds of years, some ‘experts’ believe that humans are losing cognitive capabilities and becoming more emotionally unstable. One Stanford University researcher and geneticist, Dr. Gerald Crabtree, believes that our intellectual decline as a race has much to do with adverse genetic mutations. But human intelligence is suffering for other reasons as well.[/I]

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It's ok guys, it has a happy ending.

[url=http://www.wtsp.com/news/watercooler/article/297006/58/Woman-apologizes-flipping-off-judge]Penelope Soto apologizes for flipping off Judge Jorge Rodriguez-Chomat | wtsp.com[/url]

She apologizes. Judge drops contempt and 30 day sentence. All is well in the world.

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[quote=The Goat;994880]My guess is you guys haven't dealt with the criminal justice system much. I've volunteered a great deal through church and non-profit orgs, working with the homeless, chemically dependent, mentally ill, criminal pasts etc. You'll find most of the cops, DAs and judges have no better character than the people they arrest, prosecute, sentence. That's all.[/quote]

As someone who has worked in the system and still have alot of lawyer friends around the DC area, I completely understand your point. People are people and after my experience of working there, [I]I put no one on any pedestal regardless of occupation[/I]. It taught me alot about people because you see the extremes, people who earn way too much for what they do and the people who have nothing fighting to get something. The most interesting fact is both sides generally dont care. And its reflected in attitude as well as behavior. Dont get wrong there are some who care alot and there mostly behind the scenes. But when it comes down to trust and honesty, no matter how much I like a person "in the system" or their family, I wouldnt trust them about anything.

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There is no excuse for flipping a judge off or saying "F*** you" to him. She's a criminal. He is a judge.

Its the responsibility of every good citizen to show respect to those the government has placed in positions of authority, regardless of how you beleive they are acting. Just because you think a Judge or police officer might not be showing you the courtesy you think you deserve, that does not give you the right to show them disrespect.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;994941]There is no excuse for flipping a judge off or saying "F*** you" to him. She's a criminal. He is a judge.

Its the responsibility of every good citizen to show respect to those the government has placed in positions of authority, regardless of how you beleive they are acting. Just because you think a Judge or police officer might not be showing you the courtesy you think you deserve, that doesnt not give you the right to show them disrespect.[/quote]

I would go as far as saying really no one deserves that regardless of who ever they are. I think she certainly got what she deserved and the judge was right to do that.

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I'm with BHA. Sorry, if we, as a society, don't agree that we have to respect those that we, as a society, put into positions of authority, that's called anarchy. It's called the Rule of Law for a reason folks.

Those in authority need to be held accountable for abuses of the trust placed in them by us and should, when they so abuse it, be held to a higher standard than those not occupying positions of public trust.

This was a clear case of someone being disrespectful to the person and the position. The initial penalty was more than fair, and, I suggest to you, many a judge would consider this judge's actions lenient.

The apology was appropriate, order was restored and the end of civilization as we know it was averted.

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[quote=Chico23231;994917]As someone who has worked in the system and still have alot of lawyer friends around the DC area, I completely understand your point. People are people and after my experience of working there, [I]I put no one on any pedestal regardless of occupation[/I]. It taught me alot about people because you see the extremes, people who earn way too much for what they do and the people who have nothing fighting to get something. The most interesting fact is both sides generally dont care. And its reflected in attitude as well as behavior. Dont get wrong there are some who care alot and there mostly behind the scenes. But when it comes down to trust and honesty, no matter how much I like a person "in the system" or their family, I wouldnt trust them about anything.[/quote]

Couldn't be said any better than this...

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[quote=JoeRedskin;994949]I'm with BHA. Sorry, if we, as a society, don't agree that we have to respect those that we, as a society, put into positions of authority, that's called anarchy. It's called the Rule of Law for a reason folks.

Those in authority need to be held accountable for abuses of the trust placed in them by us and should, when they so abuse it, be held to a higher standard than those not occupying positions of public trust.

This was a clear case of someone being disrespectful to the person and the position. The initial penalty was more than fair, and, I suggest to you, many a judge would consider this judge's actions lenient.

The apology was appropriate, order was restored and the end of civilization as we know it was averted.[/quote]

I had no idea anarchy was so easily attained. Shocked, and embarrassed, at my own naivete. Not sure how I'll find the inner strengh to keep posting here...

[QUOTE=The Goat;995007]I had no idea anarchy was so easily attained. Shocked, and embarrassed, at my own naivete. Not sure how I'll find the inner strengh to keep posting here...[/QUOTE]

JR is a good soldier for the Man. Any disparaging of his wonderful system would clearly lead to a world of anarchy and mass insanity. Clearly a teenager's expression of disrespect toward a member of his beloved profession proves the end of the world is near

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Dafuq?

[URL="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/25/zanzibar-music-festival-priest-murdered"]Zanzibar church killing mars music festival promoting religious tolerance[/URL]

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Steubenville suspect's text messages paint disturbing picture of night of alleged rape...


[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/news/highschool--steubenville-suspects--text-messages-paint-disturbing-picture-of-night-of-alleged-rape--according-to-prosecutors-053236470.html]Y! SPORTS[/url]

horrible...really hoping these guys get some significant jailtime.

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[quote=Chico23231;998921]Steubenville suspect's text messages paint disturbing picture of night of alleged rape...


[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/news/highschool--steubenville-suspects--text-messages-paint-disturbing-picture-of-night-of-alleged-rape--according-to-prosecutors-053236470.html"]Y! SPORTS[/URL]

horrible...really hoping these guys get some significant jailtime.[/quote]

The other sad part of this story is that the town is divided over the rape. How the hell could anyone take the boys side with all the evidience against them. I could see maybe a few people but this article says 50 to 80% of the town are for the boys. Then there is the cover up and the scum of a coach which I'm guessing still has a job.

[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/news/highschool--steubenville-rape-trial-divides-ohio-town-052958178.html"]Y! SPORTS[/URL]

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Why? Oh why?

[url=http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/15/1729331/cpac-slavery-minority-outreach/?mobile=nc]CPAC Participant Defends Slavery At Minority Outreach Panel: It Gave 'Food And Shelter' To Blacks | ThinkProgress[/url]

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[quote=DynamiteRave;999030]Why? Oh why?

[URL="http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/15/1729331/cpac-slavery-minority-outreach/?mobile=nc"]CPAC Participant Defends Slavery At Minority Outreach Panel: It Gave 'Food And Shelter' To Blacks | ThinkProgress[/URL][/quote]

The only reaction I had to that article was remembering how much I enjoyed Django Unchained.

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[quote=firstdown;998938]The other sad part of this story is that the town is divided over the rape. How the hell could anyone take the boys side with all the evidience against them. I could see maybe a few people but this article says 50 to 80% of the town are for the boys. Then there is the cover up and the scum of a coach which I'm guessing still has a job.

[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/news/highschool--steubenville-rape-trial-divides-ohio-town-052958178.html"]Y! SPORTS[/URL][/quote]

The same reason why many still back Penn State and Joe Paterno. They dont' give a shit about rape or child molestation if it isn't happening to their own. Just give them their football.

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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/news/highschool--steubenville-high-school-football-players-found-guilty-of-raping-16-year-old-girl-164129528.html]Y! SPORTS[/url]

One year in jail? JUVENILE jail? Bullshit.

[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;999194][url=http://sports.yahoo.com/news/highschool--steubenville-high-school-football-players-found-guilty-of-raping-16-year-old-girl-164129528.html]Y! SPORTS[/url]

One year in jail? JUVENILE jail? Bullshit.[/QUOTE]

Girls life is ruined, that's a disgraceful sentence. Brand 'Rapist' on their foreheads on release. I hope, but don't expect, society to ostracise them. Scum.

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[quote=firstdown;998938]The other sad part of this story is that the town is divided over the rape. How the hell could anyone take the boys side with all the evidience against them. I could see maybe a few people but this article says 50 to 80% of the town are for the boys. Then there is the cover up and the scum of a coach which I'm guessing still has a job.

[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/news/highschool--steubenville-rape-trial-divides-ohio-town-052958178.html"]Y! SPORTS[/URL][/quote]

As an educator it sickens me that there are teachers that may have refused to testify with knowledge of the situation. I can only hope that if they did obstruct justice that they receive a punishment worse than the slap on the wrist the boys received.

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[quote=The Goat;994882]To be fair, a cop probably saved my bacon once when a mentally ill homeless man I was counseling had a psychotic episode, and was carrying a blade the size of your arm in his trousers.[/quote]

yeah, to be fair.:doh:

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[quote=RedskinRat;999201]Girls life is ruined, that's a disgraceful sentence. Brand 'Rapist' on their foreheads on release. I hope, but don't expect, society to ostracise them. Scum.

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2[/quote]

I agree the sentence is not right but they will have to be listed their intire life as a sex offender.