Re: Sam Howell Traded
 

It’s funny how SFRedskin has not even touched this thread

Re: Sam Howell Traded
 

[quote=mredskins;1360511]It’s funny how SFRedskin has not even touched this thread[/quote]

it really kind of is hilarious

Re: Sam Howell Traded
 

[quote=Meks;1360497]It's always gonna be unnerving as fans when your #2 pick has to ball out or you'll be fielding...... Marietta. Not enough return for Sam who I'd put out there over MM every day and twice on Sundays.

I don't think the hype is real ok these top 3 qbs, either, like most other years, qbs over drafted and over hyped.

Is what it is, hope for the best.[/quote]

So if the Texans felt this way about CJ Stroud and Davis Mills they would have been called stupid right?

sounds like youre convincing yourself that Sam Howell is something he just isnt.

Re: Sam Howell Traded
 

people fall in love with mediocre QBs all the time, we saw it with cult brennan, patrick ramsey, colt mccoy, etc.

we flipped a 5th rounder into a high 4th/low 3rd and got some cheap years of service. The bears took the #11 overall pick and got significantly less. (part of this is that low completion % tends to mean bad nfl qb)

We're getting a huge upgrade, and if SH works out decently in seattle, that's great for him/them. he has lower end starter potential, he's actually pretty good on bombs, can make some things happen, but the time to release and reading defenses part needs a lot of work.

Re: Sam Howell Traded
 

Last month who would have thought the Skins would have gotten more for Howell that the Bears would for Fields?

Re: Sam Howell Traded
 

[quote=nonniey;1360532]Last month who would have thought the Skins would have gotten more for Howell that the Bears would for Fields?[/quote]

It seems like Poles did not handle the Fields trade well. Makes me wonder if the dumb Bears ownership got involved in the process and screwed up the timing of the deal.

Re: Sam Howell Traded
 

[quote=That Guy;1360529]people fall in love with mediocre QBs all the time, we saw it with cult brennan, patrick ramsey, colt mccoy, etc.

we flipped a 5th rounder into a high 4th/low 3rd and got some cheap years of service. The bears took the #11 overall pick and got significantly less. (part of this is that low completion % tends to mean bad nfl qb)

We're getting a huge upgrade, and if SH works out decently in seattle, that's great for him/them. he has lower end starter potential, he's actually pretty good on bombs, can make some things happen, but the time to release and reading defenses part needs a lot of work.[/quote]

It’s because we haven’t had competent play consistent for a long time. And the 2 guy we had, the owner didn’t like…cousins and Brad Johnson.

So yeah it’s true what you said, but the fan base is hungry. It’s kinda disappointing lotta of the talking heads around skins media not bring this up…but not “hot take-y” enough I guess.

Re: Sam Howell Traded
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1360513]So if the Texans felt this way about CJ Stroud and Davis Mills they would have been called stupid right?

sounds like youre convincing yourself that Sam Howell is something he just isnt.[/quote]

There's only one way to find out and the franchise is ready to gamble. So be it hope for the best. They're paid to make these decisions, whether I agree or not doesn't matter but my gut says it's gonna be Rocky.

But here's to hoping

Re: Sam Howell Traded
 

seattle thinks he is .. the GM was praising Sam on his toughness and ability.. i hope he plays lights out !

Re: Sam Howell Traded
 

fields nixed 3 trades per a report, so that's probably a big part of it.

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[QUOTE=That Guy;1360603]fields nixed 3 trades per a report, so that's probably a big part of it.[/QUOTE]wow

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Re: Sam Howell Traded
 

[quote=That Guy;1360603]fields nixed 3 trades per a report, so that's probably a big part of it.[/quote]

Not sure how the "nixing trades" thing works. A clause in his contract?

Re: Sam Howell Traded
 

[QUOTE=Hoglips;1360675]Not sure how the "nixing trades" thing works. A clause in his contract?[/QUOTE]


Poles said that they ran trades by Fields because they wanted him to have a say and do right by him. I suspect the other deals weren’t as good or maybe slight better than what the Steelers offered at most. Still, if that’s accurate, may have helped placate his teammates who wanted him to stay.


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Re: Sam Howell Traded
 

[quote=Hoglips;1360675]Not sure how the "nixing trades" thing works. A clause in his contract?[/quote]

dunno, I don't think he had a no trade, but he could refuse to sign an extension or no show offseason stuff if it was something he really didn't want (or fail the physical). That wouldn't be setting himself up for success. Team may have also gotten similar enough offers that it didn't matter that much.

Steelers are a good landing spot for him though (imo).

Re: Sam Howell Traded
 

I think the biggest thing w/ a lot of fans is they think the book is written on a guy after a short sample size. The same comments about Kirk are pretty similar to Sam. Not saying he can or will turn out to be as good as Kirk has been, which is a top half of the league starter, but he is still a young QB. Kirk got a long enough leash to play through his ups and downs. I can't think of a worse situation for a QB then the one Sam was in.

When Sam was dealing everyone here said " we got our guy" .. well except jamf..
Schneider saw the value and potential. Isn't he one of the best GM's around?

If Daniels or Maye puts up Sam's numbers most would be ok w/ it.