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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1219681]I doubt Lock makes it out of the top 5 (due to trades) and he certainly won't make it past Denver at 10. Are you suggesting we trade up to get him?[/quote]

No, definitely don't want to move up. If Lock isn't there at 15 you fill one of our many other holes with BPA. If we don't get Lock I'd prefer White or Burns (Sweat too, but he'll be gone by 15).

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[quote=MTK;1219677]I don't disagree with anything you're saying but wouldn't it be nice to have a young arm in the mix too like Rosen or a draft pick?[/quote]

Yes, we are way over due to draft a young QB. In fact I used to love the practice of Beathard/Casserly drafting a QB almost every year in the mid to late rounds. Why not take a shot at QB fairly regularly in the draft?
Mark Rypien 6th round pick.
Stan Humphries 6th round pick.
Babe Laufenberg 6th round pick.
Jay Schroeder 3rd rounder (later traded to Raiders and we got Pro Bowl LT Jim Lachey).

I am against paying a high price (#15 pick) to get Rosen.
I like Rosen's potential, but I watch Rosen I am not convinced I see a NFL franchise player or player good enough to give up #15 or multiple picks. Yes, he has played on some shitty teams but individually his play is good, not great.
i think i would rather draft a 2nd round or lower QB. Not giving up a ton to take a chance, just like we would take a chance on Rosen.
#15 pick needs to be a blue chip Offensive Lineman or edge rusher which this draft has several and starts day one!. Day one starter is a prerequisite.

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Is there any reason people keep mentioning Rypien other than that his uncle played for us? I'm no scout, but I don't really feel he's an NFL player.

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1219699]Is there any reason people keep mentioning Rypien other than that his uncle played for us? I'm no scout, but I don't really feel he's an NFL player.[/quote]

It's pretty much that, he's a solid college QB that played in a weak conference. Not saying he can't play in the NFL, he graded out well this season, was top 20 IN Yards per target , top 10 graded against the Blitz.

I think he's a 4th rd guy.

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1219699]Is there any reason people keep mentioning Rypien other than that his uncle played for us? I'm no scout, but I don't really feel he's an NFL player.[/quote]

The good thing is if you draft a player like him if he doesn't workout as a starter he can still be a young cheap backup. Especially with Colt and Keenum being FAs after this year. I'm probably biased by nostalgia, but I think he can definitely at least be a serviceable backup.

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1219699]Is there any reason people keep mentioning Rypien other than that his uncle played for us? I'm no scout, but I don't really feel he's an NFL player.[/quote]

Well you probably haven't seen Boise play the last 4 years. He's a legit prospect and really don't know why he's not being mentioned up there with some of the other guys. He's got tremendous accuracy, he has gotten under center, runs a lot of pro concepts in their passing game, has plenty of arm, quick release. He's every bit as good as Rosen was coming out last year if not better. I hope we draft him. He'd be a perfect fit for Gruden's offense.

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=Defensewins;1219667]Talking in facts and not in wishful player ceilings:
We got Case for cheap and he will be a stop gap QB, [B]that is all[/B]. This is a small addition with no major subtraction to the Redskins. Even Case's salary is ok.
Case is better than Colt and JJ. For fucking sure.

At this point in Rosen's young and inexperienced career, Case has more of an ability to play now in the NFL and at a higher level than Rosen while Rosen acclimates. Stop gap.
In the past Case has thrived when working with a good offensive coordinator/Qb's coach. Gruden is supposed to be a good offensive coach.
I am not saying Case will suddenly be an All Star under Gruden, but there is a history of upside to Case's play when working with good coaching and a good offensive line and running game in front of him.
Having said that I still believe Case is nothing but a stop gap QB with experience a little bit of upside compared to Colt and JJ.[/quote]

I agree with everything you said except what happens if Case plays lights out this year?? Now we have a problem 😬 he will want a long contract ... Cousins part 2...I won’t be surprised at all if Case plays very well ...

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=rocnrik;1219708]I agree with everything you said except what happens if Case plays lights out this year?? Now we have a problem 😬 he will want a long contract ... Cousins part 2...I won’t be surprised at all if Case plays very well ...[/quote]

I'd recommend franchising him 2 years.

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😃. Sounds about right!

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[quote=rocnrik;1219711]😃. Sounds about right![/quote]

60% of the time that strategy works every time.

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Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=rocnrik;1219708]I agree with everything you said except what happens if Case plays lights out this year?? Now we have a problem 😬 he will want a long contract ... Cousins part 2...I won’t be surprised at all if Case plays very well ...[/quote]

How is Case Keenum going to play well? With the current state of the Redskin's supporting cast on offense Aaron Rodgers would struggle to throw for 3500 yards and 20 TDS.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1219717]How is Case Keenum going to play well? With the current state of the Redskin's supporting cast on offense Aaron Rodgers would struggle to throw for 3500 yards and 20 TDS.[/quote]

Left guard and WR are our main problems, you trade down het extra picks, your LG or WR in the 1st or second (vice versa) with the additional 2nd rounder you get your future QB (could also wait till the 3rd round) and instead get a pass rusher.

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;1219718]Left guard and WR are our main problems, you trade down het extra picks, your LG or WR in the 1st or second (vice versa) with the additional 2nd rounder you get your future QB (could also wait till the 3rd round) and instead get a pass rusher.[/quote]

You forgot about tight end.

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

2017 was a career year for Keenum, he was on a loaded offense. Highly doubtful he ever matches that type of production. Last year was more reflective of the type of QB he is.


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