Re: Brian LaFemina Out Less Than 1 Year In
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1214847]Listening to the Kevin Sheehan show with Thom Loverro and Thom has added some insights:

- Thoms sources said that Allen and Jay are both very worried about their jobs. They don’t know if they’re getting fired or not
- The Swearinger release was described by a source as a “Hail Mary” attempt to keep their jobs.

To me, this is good news. Hoping to see them both gone after the season.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote]

Please please have Allen's fears be true! Fire that Rudy poo candy ass.

Re: Brian LaFemina Out Less Than 1 Year In
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1214853]This has nothing to do with Lafemina’s termination. Lafemina reported to Snyder. Snyder fired him. And while, as fans, we lump everything together as it all represents dysfunction of Snyder’s ownership, lafemina was on the operations side. His firing has nothing to do with what Snyder does on the football side.

Lafemina was fired because he and his guys were getting ready to clean house and get rid of a bunch of long time lower level redskins employees who were “Snyder guys.” Snyder was not pleased with a lot of what Lafemina was doing, and he probably would not have lasted much longer here, but his firing yesterday was a “preemptive strike” from Snyder to keep
Lafemina from firing those guys.

While this reeks of dysfunction, it was on the operations side of things. It may impact the stadium plan, ticketing, concessions, etc, but it has nothing to do with the football side. It is completely independent of Bruce and jays job


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote]

It reeks of Snyder being a person that cares only about himself and having smoke blown up his ass. Nothing new there. This team is ran by shitheads.

Re: Brian LaFemina Out Less Than 1 Year In
 

[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1214901]It reeks of Snyder being a person that cares only about himself and having smoke blown up his ass. Nothing new there. This team is ran by shitheads.[/QUOTE]


The dysfunction of this organization is well documented, but you’re getting upset about Lafemina as if he was some kind of messiah.

He was a head of non-football operations. His job is one that fans of any other team in sports wouldn’t even care about. 99 percent of Other teams fans don’t even know the name of the individual in the organization who has an equivalent job as Lafemina. No matter how good or bad at his job he was or would have been, it would never have had ANY influence on the football teams staff, personnel, or game results.

Had he been let go a week from now when Allen is no longer in his role, you probably wouldn’t have even notice. But his firing has somehow become a lightning rod for frustrated fans who just want an outlet for their frustration.

Your frustration with the organization is completely justified, but this is a completely irrelevant move from a football perspective.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Re: Brian LaFemina Out Less Than 1 Year In
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1214904]The dysfunction of this organization is well documented, but you’re getting upset about Lafemina as if he was some kind of messiah.

He was a head of non-football operations. His job is one that fans of any other team in sports wouldn’t even care about. 99 percent of Other teams fans don’t even know the name of the individual in the organization who has an equivalent job as Lafemina. No matter how good or bad at his job he was or would have been, it would never have had ANY influence on the football teams staff, personnel, or game results.

Had he been let go a week from now when Allen is no longer in his role, you probably wouldn’t have even notice. But his firing has somehow become a lightning rod for frustrated fans who just want an outlet for their frustration.

Your frustration with the organization is completely justified, but this is a completely irrelevant move from a football perspective.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote]

If it was a one off thing I'd agree, but this is just typical Snyder shit. These guys have been here less than a year and already getting fired/resigning. As far as I've read, these were respectful guys and already gone. It just comes off again that if you don't tell Dan and Bruce that their shit smells like roses you get fired.

Re: Brian LaFemina Out Less Than 1 Year In
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1214905]If it was a one off thing I'd agree, but this is just typical Snyder shit. These guys have been here less than a year and already getting fired/resigning. As far as I've read, these were respectful guys and already gone. It just comes off again that if you don't tell Dan and Bruce that their shit smells like roses you get fired.[/quote]

But this type of thing is true in many jobs. Every boss / manager / director / owner- to some degree, wants "yes people" around them in some capacity.

I just think Dan is who takes it to extremes.

Re: Brian LaFemina Out Less Than 1 Year In
 

[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1214905]If it was a one off thing I'd agree, but this is just typical Snyder shit. These guys have been here less than a year and already getting fired/resigning. As far as I've read, these were respectful guys and already gone. It just comes off again that if you don't tell Dan and Bruce that their shit smells like roses you get fired.[/QUOTE]


Lafemina was about to fire a bunch of longtime low and mid level employees on the operations side. I have no idea whether those people were good or bad at their jobs, but Snyder fires Lafemina to keep him firing them.

Whether he would have eventually turned things around or not, we’ll never know, but Lafemina completely failed to improve anything this year. Game attendance was significantly worse under his one year here - and this was even when the team was playing well.

Neither of us have all the facts as to who was “right” or “wrong” regarding their vision for the teams operations side. But again - i personally don’t care as it wouldn’t affect the product on the field.

What i do care about is the football side of things. I want significant changes to be made after the season. If there aren’t, and Some assistant coach is just fired as a sacrificial lamb, I’ll be sharing your outrage.

But Im ambivalent to the Lafemina firing.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Re: Brian LaFemina Out Less Than 1 Year In
 

^ Attendance was off only because Lafemina came in and said we need to be transparent, there's no waiting list and no more fake sell outs. You can't fairly judge what he did here in 8 months.

And the whole thing just screams Snyder is not open to change. After 8 months of having some real grown ups in the building and he said nah, I'd rather do it my way. You know, the way that has dragged the franchise into the shitter.

Re: Brian LaFemina Out Less Than 1 Year In
 

[quote=MTK;1214919]^ Attendance was off only because Lafemina came in and said we need to be transparent, there's no waiting list and no more fake sell outs. You can't fairly judge what he did here in 8 months.

And the whole thing just screams Snyder is not open to change. After 8 months of having some real grown ups in the building and he said nah, I'd rather do it my way. You know, the way that has dragged the franchise into the shitter.[/quote]

This. Snyder showed his colors again of being a terrible owner

Re: Brian LaFemina Out Less Than 1 Year In
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1214847]Listening to the Kevin Sheehan show with Thom Loverro and Thom has added some insights:

- Thoms sources said that Allen and Jay are both very worried about their jobs. They don’t know if they’re getting fired or not
- The Swearinger release was described by a source as a “Hail Mary” attempt to keep their jobs.

To me, this is good news. Hoping to see them both gone after the season.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote]

You made my day, I'll take any signs of hope I can get !

Re: Brian LaFemina Out Less Than 1 Year In
 

[QUOTE=MTK;1214919]^ Attendance was off only because Lafemina came in and said we need to be transparent, there's no waiting list and no more fake sell outs. You can't fairly judge what he did here in 8 months.

And the whole thing just screams Snyder is not open to change. After 8 months of having some real grown ups in the building and he said nah, I'd rather do it my way. You know, the way that has dragged the franchise into the shitter.[/QUOTE]


Even if that’s true, who cares? It’s the operations side.

Ultimately, everything on the operations side will fix itself if appropriate changes are made on the football side. Nothing lefamina did or could have done in his role would have affected that. I want to see what changes are made on the football side.

It’s abundantly obvious that Allen needs to be removed from anything related to the actual team operations. I fully expect him to be gone, or in another role focused solely on the stadium deal, by this time next week.

If he’s not, then I’ll complain about that.






Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Re: Brian LaFemina Out Less Than 1 Year In
 

I agree the product on the field matters but the fan experience matters too. There is a reason that Skins fans travel well. There is passion for the team we just don't like having a shitty experience doing it.

Re: Brian LaFemina Out Less Than 1 Year In
 

Ratings and attendance were on the decline well before Lafemina came in. The ops side is a problem just like the football side, it all ties in together. Fan apathy is at an all time high. Even with a 6-3 team this year and a 2 game lead in the division nobody cared. The crowd at the home opener was flat out embarrassing and that was coming off a convincing win in Arizona. The relationship between the team and fans is seriously broken.

And again the fact Snyder canned him 8 months in just shows that he's not able to see things for the disaster they are. Lafemina represented some hope that Snyder was reaching out for some help and wanted to truly change.

Re: Brian LaFemina Out Less Than 1 Year In
 

I'm sorry but could those of you who went to FedEx field detail why they think it's such a bad stadium?

A part from traffic and parking prices?

I took the subway to go there, thought it was super easy, and while I'm aware my game day experience was significantly enhanced by a huge luck factor, I thought the stadium was well designed, fans are incredibly close to the field... I thought it was a really good stadium... what am I missing ?

Envoyé de mon SM-J320FN en utilisant Tapatalk

Re: Brian LaFemina Out Less Than 1 Year In
 

What if Lafemina's firing was just the first shot of a general executive housecleaning by Snyder? Snyder could be planning to bring in a new Team President to run the entire business, with new EVP's under him to run the business side and the football side, respectively. That could mean that Bruce and Jay will also be fired at the end of the season. I nominate General Mattis to be Team President and Bill Parcells to be EVP of Football Operations.

Re: Brian LaFemina Out Less Than 1 Year In
 

[quote=FrenchSkin;1214941]I'm sorry but could those of you who went to FedEx field detail why they think it's such a bad stadium?

A part from traffic and parking prices?

I took the subway to go there, thought it was super easy, and while I'm aware my game day experience was significantly enhanced by a huge luck factor, I thought the stadium was well designed, fans are incredibly close to the field... I thought it was a really good stadium... what am I missing ?

Envoyé de mon SM-J320FN en utilisant Tapatalk[/quote]

I've never had any real complaints about the stadium. Even parking and traffic weren't real issues in my mind but I also usually park at the Arena Shopping Center. I walk further but once I'm in the car it's a quick right out of the parking lot and a right onto the interstate. To me, a few upgrades here and there are more than sufficient. I haven't been to any of the newest mega stadiums but FedEx Field stacks up fine with the stadiums I've been to. Fans want good, competitive football first and foremost. You don't even have to win 10-12 games a year. Just put a good product on the field.