Re: Gruden Says Start Cousins
 

[quote=skinsguy;1045352]Exactly! I don't want Jon Gruden anywhere near this team. It's a mistake to want him over Mike Shanahan.[/quote]

Yep, mistake that he took the Raiders to a SB, then a mistake he went to a totally different team with a totally different QB and took them to a SB.

I preferred him over MS, but ... we got MS. I didn't complain, MS had a pretty good record also. The key is there really is no good answer. Look at Coughlin, making him a HC was questionable at best but he panned out for the Giants. Look at the Chiefs, everyone said Reid was washed up ( I would love to have had him), but his team is winning. Look at Denver, I never would have figured Jon Fox to fix his old looking antiquated system, but the Bronco's look good.

So I wouldn't completely pass on Gruden. Plus he's had a chance to see what teams around the league and what works and doesn't work.

Re: Gruden Says Start Cousins
 

[quote=skinsguy;1045352]Exactly! I don't want Jon Gruden anywhere near this team. It's a mistake to want him over Mike Shanahan.[/quote]

Mike Shanahan should be fired. More importantly, he deserves to be fired. I'm not sure Gruden is the right guy for this job, that's for Snyder to figure out, but I do know we won't be running the triple option if he is the coach.

Re: Gruden Says Start Cousins
 

[quote=SBXVII;1045437]Yep, mistake that he took the Raiders to a SB, then a mistake he went to a totally different team with a totally different QB and took them to a SB.

I preferred him over MS, but ... we got MS. I didn't complain, MS had a pretty good record also. The key is there really is no good answer. Look at Coughlin, making him a HC was questionable at best but he panned out for the Giants. Look at the Chiefs, everyone said Reid was washed up ( I would love to have had him), but his team is winning. Look at Denver, I never would have figured Jon Fox to fix his old looking antiquated system, but the Bronco's look good.

So I wouldn't completely pass on Gruden. Plus he's had a chance to see what teams around the league and what works and doesn't work.[/quote]

Gruden didn't take the Raiders to the Super Bowl.

Re: Gruden Says Start Cousins
 

[quote=SBXVII;1045437]Yep, mistake that he took the Raiders to a SB, then a mistake he went to a totally different team with a totally different QB and took them to a SB.

I preferred him over MS, but ... we got MS. I didn't complain, MS had a pretty good record also. The key is there really is no good answer. Look at Coughlin, making him a HC was questionable at best but he panned out for the Giants. Look at the Chiefs, everyone said Reid was washed up ( I would love to have had him), but his team is winning. Look at Denver, I never would have figured Jon Fox to fix his old looking antiquated system, but the Bronco's look good.

So I wouldn't completely pass on Gruden. Plus he's had a chance to see what teams around the league and what works and doesn't work.[/quote]

When did Gruden take the Raiders to the Super Bowl?

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He didn't take Oakland to the SB but that was his team. That was his offense. He made Rich Gannon into a star. Made Brad Johnson into a SB QB. If I'm Dan Snyder, Jon Gruden is the first person that I'm getting on the phone. I think he's just what this team needs.

Re: Gruden Says Start Cousins
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1045441]Mike Shanahan should be fired. More importantly, he deserves to be fired. I'm not sure Gruden is the right guy for this job, that's for Snyder to figure out, but I do know we won't be running the triple option if he is the coach.[/quote]

Gruden would run some sort of west coast-spread hybrid. I guess we'll know for sure next season... maybe

Re: Gruden Says Start Cousins
 

[quote=SmootSmack;1045451]Gruden would run some sort of west coast-spread hybrid. I guess we'll know for sure next season... maybe[/quote]

I hope your talking Jay over Jon. I really hope you are.

Re: Gruden Says Start Cousins
 

[quote=SmootSmack;1045451]Gruden would run some sort of west coast-spread hybrid. I guess we'll know for sure next season... maybe[/quote]

Any possibility we keep things family style and end up with a Jon and Jay combo? lol

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[quote=Mattyk;1045454]Any possibility we keep things family style and end up with a Jon and Jay combo? lol[/quote]

I think the inherent competitive aspect between siblings could produce awesome results, assuming they're mature enough to leave bickering aside and anything that could distract from team focus.

Re: Gruden Says Start Cousins
 

[quote=Mattyk;1045454]Any possibility we keep things family style and end up with a Jon and Jay combo? lol[/quote]


lmao

Re: Gruden Says Start Cousins
 

[quote=SmootSmack;1045451]Gruden would run some sort of west coast-spread hybrid. I guess we'll know for sure next season... maybe[/quote]

I thought you said on here earlier that he had no interest in coaching again. Did something change?

Re: Gruden Says Start Cousins
 

[quote=The Goat;1045455]I think the inherent competitive aspect between siblings could produce awesome results, assuming they're mature enough to leave bickering aside and anything that could distract from team focus.[/quote]

I'm not sure there would be enough room for those egos. One Gruden is probably more than plenty in one building at a time.

Besides, if we're hiring Jon don't we want him running the offense? That's his specialty after all.

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[quote=Mattyk;1045458]I'm not sure there would be enough room for those egos. One Gruden is probably more than plenty in one building at a time.

Besides, if we're hiring Jon don't we want him running the offense? That's his specialty after all.[/quote]


wonder who JG will bring in as his DC?

Re: Gruden Says Start Cousins
 

[quote=mbedner3420;1045457]I thought you said on here earlier that he had no interest in coaching again. Did something change?[/quote]


He said a couple weeks ago that he does want to coach again soon

Re: Gruden Says Start Cousins
 

Jon and Jay did work together in Tampa, so I don't think it's a big deal.