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[quote=HailGreen28;989855]And Eli called himself elite. :laughing-[/quote]



First Eli never called himself elite,he was ask in an interveiw "do you consider youself in the same group as Peyton ,Tom Brady,and Breeze all elite QBs and he said yes."And he is,other than Brady who else has 2 super bowl wins to their credit out there playing right now?

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[quote=Giantone;989910]First Eli never called himself elite,he was ask in an interveiw "do you consider youself in the same group as Peyton ,Tom Brady,and Breeze all elite QBs and he said yes."And he is,other than Brady who else has 2 super bowl wins to their credit out there playing right now?[/quote]

Rothlisberger...

And I have the same problem with putting Ben in the Elite category as I do for Eli. They are both inconsistent and they have both had defenses that played huge roles in their teams success.

Eli has proven that he can play like the elites. He has done it twice for approx. 10-12 game stretches, and the giants won two SB's. But other than those two runs, Eli is too inconsistent to be given elite status imo.

There is only 2 Elite QBs and that's Brady and PM.

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[quote=Skinzman;989911]Rothlisberger...

And I have the same problem with putting Ben in the Elite category as I do for Eli. They are both inconsistent and they have both had defenses that played huge roles in their teams success.

Eli has proven that he can play like the elites. He has done it twice for approx. 10-12 game stretches, and the giants won two SB's. But other than those two runs, Eli is too inconsistent to be given elite status imo.[/quote]
yup Big Ben(how the hell did I forget him?),yet people think Peyton is elite while he has only gone to the super bowl once.I think 8 times he has pulled a 1 and done.aren't the playoffs suppose to be when you're elite?

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[quote=Giantone;989914]yup Big Ben(how the hell did I forget him?),yet people think Peyton is elite while he has only gone to the super bowl once.I think 8 times he has pulled a 1 and done.aren't the playoffs suppose to be when you're elite?[/quote]

Im not going to lie, I have called Peyton Elite plenty before but am second guessing that as the years go on, definitely Elite in the regular season, but playoffs is looking different. Eli has shown that when he is on his game, he deals with playoff pressure better than Peyton. And as they say, your legacy is built in the playoffs.

Having said that, I personally dont think Peyton has ever had a great defense, except this year in Denver, and they played terrible against the Ravens in their lone playoff game. Cant help but think if Peyton had a playoff caliber Def actually play like a playoff caliber Def during the playoffs, whether he wouldnt have at least one more himself.

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[quote=Skinzman;989916]Im not going to lie, I have called Peyton Elite plenty before but am second guessing that as the years go on, definitely Elite in the regular season, but playoffs is looking different. Eli has shown that when he is on his game, he deals with playoff pressure better than Peyton. And as they say, your legacy is built in the playoffs.

Having said that, I personally dont think Peyton has ever had a great defense, except this year in Denver, and they played terrible against the Ravens in their lone playoff game. Cant help but think if Peyton had a playoff caliber Def actually play like a playoff caliber Def during the playoffs, whether he wouldnt have at least one more himself.[/quote]

Peyton Manning is still an elite quarterback. Him and Brady are both most likely going down as top 5 quarterbacks of all time.

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[quote=Giantone;989910]First Eli never called himself elite,he was ask in an interveiw "do you consider youself in the same group as Peyton ,Tom Brady,and Breeze all elite QBs and he said yes."And he is,other than Brady who else has 2 super bowl wins to their credit out there playing right now?[/quote]LOL, thanks for providing an example of Eli actually calling himself elite!

Interesting, so Dan Marino, who never won a Superbowl, isn't elite by your criteria?

And no, Eli is not elite. He was lucky to be on a lucky team in '07 and '12. His own body of work doesn't hold up.

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[url=http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Crabtree-in-sex-assault-investigation-4207109.php]Crabtree in sex-assault investigation - SFGate[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;989926][URL="http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Crabtree-in-sex-assault-investigation-4207109.php"]Crabtree in sex-assault investigation - SFGate[/URL][/quote]


It's a shame the League allows him to play.

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;989927]It's a shame the League allows him to play.[/QUOTE]

Why who says he is guilty? He has been accused and has not even detained; sounds like a weak case to me.

It's funny because if that was you or me being in a rape investigation we wouldn't have jobs anymore. O well hope he's innocent but I'm sure he's probably guilty just like ben was

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[quote=skinsfaninok;989940]It's funny because if that was you or me being in a rape investigation we wouldn't have jobs anymore. O well hope he's innocent but I'm sure he's probably guilty just like ben was[/quote]


I certainly hope our jobs wouldn't fire us over just an allegation.

After watching the Football life on ray Lewis, I'm pulling even harder for Baltimore tomorrow and I'm a huge Brady guy but the ravens deserve that ring

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[quote=skinsfaninok;989944]After watching the Football life on ray Lewis, I'm pulling even harder for Baltimore tomorrow and I'm a huge Brady guy but the ravens deserve that ring[/quote]

I wonder if it skipped over the part where Ray Lewis murdered somebody?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;989912]There is only 2 Elite QBs and that's Brady and PM.[/quote]How about "Discount Double Check"?