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[quote=donofriose;972113]Ron Jaworski current QB ratings...

1) Peyton
2) Brady
3) Rogers
4) Ryan
5) Big Ben
6) Schaub
7) Eli
8) Brees
9) Flacco
10) Cutler
11) Romo
12) Freeman
13) Rivers
14) Stafford
15) Luck
[B]16) Griffin[/B]
17) Dalton
18) Newton
19) Wilson
20) Kapernick
21) Palmer
22) Bradford
23) Fitzpatrick
24) Henne
25) Ponder
26) Tannehill
27) Sanchez
28) Locker
29) Quinn
30) Weeden
31) Foles
32) Anyone on Arizona[/quote]

Flacco 9? Who here would want Flacco over RGIII; please just stupid.

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[quote=donofriose;972116]We now see why Mike Shanahan was so upset after losing to Carolina. It wasn't because he was packing it in; it's because he saw how good this team could be with Griffin. Look at where the Redskins would be with one more win. I have to applaud what the Skins' offensive coaches have done with Griffin, showing how the spread option and pistol formations can work in the NFL. They've stuck with them, even when they weren't always successful, and RG3 has executed everything well. Contrary to perception, they don't go overboard on options. In the Monday night game against the Giants, the Redskins called only six option plays. But they're often the memorable ones because they yield big chunks of yardage. Combined with the Shanahan running game, the play-action passing game is lethal because of the respect Washington commands running the football. One final note: The maturity I've seen from Griffin, Luck and Wilson is just uncommon. The way they handle the media and their teammates has shown class and character. The way they carry themselves is a testament to their families, colleges and coaches.

[B]That is what he said under RG3, not really any reasoning for his position. He said he had Luck over RG3 because Luck has shown the ability to come back from mistakes and still win games (like Eli Manning)[/B][/quote]
what a load of crock.

I know Luck is going to be good, but he is right now a 1:1 td/int middle of the pack passer rating player.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;972122]what a load of crock.

I know Luck is going to be good, but he is right now a 1:1 td/int middle of the pack passer rating player.[/quote]

I concur, everyone is hyping Luck because he comes from behind and gets the W... what they forget is the reason he is behind is because he puts them in tough spots, which also forces him to throw the ball more often. Redskins go up by 28 points which means Griffin is not going to need to pass the ball as often. I think going 14/15 for 4 touchdowns is better than anything Luck has done all season.

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[quote=donofriose;972124]I concur, everyone is hyping Luck because he comes from behind and gets the W... what they forget is the reason he is behind is because he puts them in tough spots, which also forces him to throw the ball more often. Redskins go up by 28 points which means Griffin is not going to need to pass the ball as often. I think going 14/15 for 4 touchdowns is better than anything Luck has done all season.[/quote]

I agree. Part of the reason for the come from behind wins is because the INTs have caused the Colts to fall behind in games. Don't get me wrong, I think Luck will be an excellent QB for many years to come -- probably elite. But I don't see how anyone can claim that there's a player more integral to the team's success than RGIII is to ours. I know some defensive players (Watt, Aldon Smith) are having monster seasons, and there are some pretty stellar offensive numbers too (Adrian Peterson, Schaub), but all of thost teams have other major impact players. The closest thing we have is an excellent RB in Morris, but there's no other individual player that teams around the league likely covet (although Garcon may well find himself with that status). RGIII for MVP -- heck, it even rhymes.

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[quote=donofriose;972124]I concur, everyone is hyping Luck because he comes from behind and gets the W... what they forget is the reason he is behind is because he puts them in tough spots, which also forces him to throw the ball more often. Redskins go up by 28 points which means Griffin is not going to need to pass the ball as often. I think going 14/15 for 4 touchdowns is better than anything Luck has done all season.[/quote]
I think Luck could go either way. I see him in the Eli mode more than Peyton. Some years he will be the king of clutch, other times not so much.

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i haven't seen more than 3 or 4 plays worth of andrew luck this regular season. i'll have to hold off on any opinion, other than i find it hard to believe that he's playing better than griff.

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and yeah, not sure who else would take flacco over griff.

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Jaworski is an idiot. He is the most common "one play and thats your grade" kind of evaluator.

He did say the other night that the redskins defense had Eli the most confused he had ever seen...he clearly hasn't watched Eli's face then during a game.

This guy also got fired from MNF. I respect gruden more than jaws.

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QB Robert Griffin III today was named the [URL="http://www.nfl.com/voting/rookies/2012/REG/13"]NFL's Rookie of the Week[/URL] for the 3rd straight week and sixth time in 2012.

I'd say he's a keeper.

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[quote=RedskinRat;972163]QB Robert Griffin III today was named the [URL="http://www.nfl.com/voting/rookies/2012/REG/13"]NFL's Rookie of the Week[/URL] for the 3rd straight week and sixth time in 2012.

I'd say he's a keeper.[/quote]

Sometimes these awards are wrong, and this one, imo, is. I would give it to Russell Wilson, did you see the way he had the Bears panting at the end of the game.

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I most definitely think it comes down to Griffin and Luck. Although, Griffin is running away with it on the PR front. Skins late surge could put Griff over the top.

Still think Luck edges him out.

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[quote=12thMan;972172]I most definitely think it comes down to Griffin and Luck. Although, Griffin is running away with it on the PR front. Skins late surge could put Griff over the top.

Still think Luck edges him out.[/quote]

It's crazy. Luck throws something like 42 times per game because the Colts have no running game. So it stands to reason that he'd have more yards, although RGIII has as many TD passes, many fewer INTs, a higher completion percentage, more deep balls (20+ yards) for TDs and completions, and probably a few other things I can think of. Luck has the benefit of last year's horrible Colts record. But a number of things changed in Indy for the better. I don't think there is a Redskins fan anywhere that would do a QB swap with Indy, but I would bet that there are at least a handful of Indy fans that would swap QBs with us.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;972169]Sometimes these awards are wrong, and this one, imo, is. I would give it to Russell Wilson, did you see the way he had the Bears panting at the end of the game.[/quote]

Wilson wasn't playing the defending Super Bowl champions.

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[quote=RedskinRat;972175]Wilson wasn't playing the defending Super Bowl champions.[/quote]

Had you seen the Bears defense???

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[quote=calia;972174]It's crazy. Luck throws something like 42 times per game because the Colts have no running game. So it stands to reason that he'd have more yards, although RGIII has as many TD passes, many fewer INTs, a higher completion percentage, more deep balls (20+ yards) for TDs and completions, and probably a few other things I can think of. Luck has the benefit of last year's horrible Colts record. But a number of things changed in Indy for the better. [B]I don't think there is a Redskins fan anywhere that would do a QB swap with Indy[/B], but I would bet that there are at least a handful of Indy fans that would swap QBs with us.[/quote]i swear somebody here said they'd trade griff for luck.